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05-03-2010, 05:19 PM
Thought I would make a journal to track the tank's progress. Right now I am almost ready to set the tank up, just need to pick up a filter and wait for the remainder of the parts to arrive. Originally I ordered a Mr.Aqua 11G rimless aquarium unfortunatly it arrived with a large crack in the bottom pane...shipping damage and inadequate packaging IMO. I opted for a refund as I didnt want to go through the wait and risk again...I went to walmart and bought a 10G aquarium for a fraction of how much that 11G rimless cost.

As the tank is going to be a high tech setup I opted for a Pierce cartridge style CO2 system, I figure the cartridges will last atleast a month and paintball CO2 cartridges should fit it as well. The system comes with; a regulator, CO2 cartridge and stand, bubble counter, check valve and atomizer. I may upgrade to a glass diffuser once everything is setup and running. Here is a stock photo of the CO2 kit.

I bought a very cheap 28watt coralife aqualight on ebay...fortunatly the ballast is powerful enough to drive up to a 40watt PC bulb. So I am going to swap out the 28watt 50/50 it came with with a Current 40watt Freshwater tube.

Substrate is a base of peat, lots of substrate fert tabs(2-3 boxes of Flourish) and then a bag of Eco-Complete. I have opted to totally overkill the substrate with ferts so I will be good to go on substrate fertilizing for atleast the next year as peat is supposed to absorb nutrients and hold them there for the plants to get at...so I will see if that theory holds true. Otherwise fertilizing will be Seachem NPK, and Trace.

Filtration I have yet to purchase, It is between an Eheim 2213...Cascade 500 and Fluval 104. Preferably the later to as the pipe will be easier to hide in my black abyss of a tank. 3 sides of the tank are painted black and the substrate is black. :hmm3grin2orange:

The Hardscape is going to be rather simple I have 20lbs of ADA Ryuoh stone and lots of manzanita. Im not sure If I will use the manzanita right now or not...just depends on how I see the rocks working together and if it needs anything else to it.

Plants very simple assortment...Im going to try my hand at Blyxa, and add some Crypts. Im also going to attempt to grow some HC....try to find a good amount of it to start with and grow it emersed for about a week before filling the tank this theory supposidly allows the roots to get hold before being full of water. I have decided I am only trying HC once and if it fails Im not messing with it again. It would look awesome and the shrimp would love it...so its worth a try.

Livestock will be my 15 Chili Rasboras, 2 Tiger Nerites and 2 Red Spot Nerites as well as the gang of Cherry Shrimp. I may add 5 A.vespa cats down the road. These fish are micro, extremely low bioload producers and I will have a canister half the size of the tank...it should work well especially with the high plant growth rate I should get.

05-03-2010, 05:49 PM
Nice office tank! Bet you'll get a lot of office visitors once it's up and going. :ssmile:

05-04-2010, 03:33 AM
I want to come work at your office!

05-04-2010, 04:00 AM
Thanks to you both :22:

I do hope it turns out to be a nice tank, I built a little table for it today. I cant take much credit tho...I bought wood at lowes and they cut everything to size...so I just had to come home and with the SOs help screw it all together.

05-04-2010, 03:05 PM
can't wait to see some pictures!

05-05-2010, 02:57 AM
I will probably start on the tank monday, do expect a fairly slow detailed journal. :22:

In awesome news of the evening I scored a NIB Fluval 105 for $80 shipped, the magic of ebay and some patience. I had sworn off Fluval a few years ago due to the dissapointment of the 03 series...the 05 series is supposidly an entirely new filter so for the price I figured Id give it a shot. Plus its parts are going to be much easier to hide in this tank than a Rena or an Eheims would be. Once the substrate arrives(probably monday) I will get a hardscape going. Then order some HC and onto the emersed state for atleast 10 days :11:

05-05-2010, 03:09 AM
Looking forward to seeing the progress on this Jenn!

05-13-2010, 03:16 AM
I have finally started on this journey!

First layers of the substrate...I crushed some laterite into a near powder and mixed with peat
I then capped it with 20lbs of Eco-Complete
I then did the hardscape, its ADA Ryuoh Stone

My bulb should come in tomorrow, these pics were taken with an incandescent desk lamp over the tank. I will also be filling the tank tomorrow and hooking up the Fluval 105 :22:

05-13-2010, 03:35 AM
i can't wait to see that ADA rock work you put in!!!!!!

05-13-2010, 04:49 AM
Thank you, better pics to come tomorrow when the bulb arrives. I will probably order plants over the weekend and start the planting process first of the week. :22:

05-13-2010, 12:15 PM
oooooh, I like, I like!!

05-13-2010, 05:31 PM
looks pretty cool and sounds like an over all good set up... keep the pics comin and good luck!

05-13-2010, 06:53 PM
Thanks all...seems USPS has failed again, the new bulb didnt arrive as expected. I will still probably fill the tank and hook up the filter :22:

05-19-2010, 04:18 AM

The 40watts is *bright* lol, the bubbles are from having to drain and re-fill the tank to get things level. I had to run to walmart and buy 5G of RO water as the water at work is hard and has a high pH...its running right now at a medium hardness and 7.2 pH if that says anything for how hard and high of a pH it had before. Im sure the CO2 will bring it back into proper levels for good plant growth but as it is now its decent enough.

05-19-2010, 04:23 AM
Looks good so far, that stone is cool.

05-19-2010, 05:16 PM
Thanks Labby, I ordered 12 stems of Blyxa and a couple stems of L.aromatica. We'll see how the aromatica does :hmm3grin2orange:

05-19-2010, 05:21 PM
Love the tank, plants will fill it out nice.

05-19-2010, 07:00 PM
great rock work!

05-20-2010, 02:30 AM
That stone looks awesome!

05-27-2010, 05:36 AM
Blyxa and L.aromatica arrived monday. Its doing very well so far...Im going to order HC and Purple Cabomba over the weekend to arrive first of the week.

Lady Hobbs
05-27-2010, 09:42 AM
This will be an awesome tank. Love the dark effect and the rock. Blyxa is one of my favorites but I managed to kill it twice. May have to try it again when I have a different set-up.

05-27-2010, 10:25 AM
Very nice, it looks to be a sharp little tank.

05-27-2010, 02:14 PM
turning out well so far congrats!

what kind of filter are you running?

05-27-2010, 03:43 PM
Fluval 105

In awesome news of the evening I scored a NIB Fluval 105 for $80 shipped, the magic of ebay and some patience. I had sworn off Fluval a few years ago due to the dissapointment of the 03 series...the 05 series is supposidly an entirely new filter so for the price I figured Id give it a shot. Plus its parts are going to be much easier to hide in this tank than a Rena or an Eheims would be. Once the substrate arrives(probably monday) I will get a hardscape going. Then order some HC and onto the emersed state for atleast 10 days :11:

05-27-2010, 03:49 PM
THanks all :22: This is my first time with Blyxa...never had the lighting for it before. Yep its mass overkill with the 105, lol.

05-27-2010, 06:26 PM
It's looking amazingly awesome so far! It's going to be a stunner! :18:

05-28-2010, 03:52 AM
Really starting to look sharp.

06-05-2010, 03:39 AM
Thanks to you both :22:

I added some purple cabomba and HC today. I have a bunch of moneywort in there for the moment its going into my up and coming project(8" cube) and this tank has the most lighting per gallon. The HC stayed down most of the day granted it did come potted so I left some of the wool on it to help keep it down. Ill probably be moving the rasboras and inverts into the tank first of the week. The Blyxa melted a little but has perked up and is growing nicely and even turning somewhat red so I assume it likes the tank.

06-05-2010, 01:59 PM
Looking good! I had bad luck with purple cabomba.. but I only had 2wpg, and no co2 at the time...

If you don't mind me asking, where are you getting your plants from?

06-06-2010, 03:39 AM
Current status of the tank :22:

I got a few plants in from aquariumplants.com Friday, but I get most of my plants on plantedtank.net's classified forum.

06-06-2010, 03:43 AM
It's starting to look like a real Amano setup. Very beautiful

06-06-2010, 06:55 AM
Thanks Wolf Eyes, Ive been calling the "anti iwagumi" no need for a plastic grazing cow here :14:

06-14-2010, 04:18 AM

Took my nerites in and did a WC on the tank today, I expect the rest of the livestock will be in by mid-week.

06-14-2010, 05:17 AM
This needs to be your next addition, especially as that HC grows in.


06-14-2010, 05:20 AM
Awesome looking tank. Love the rocks and how you got the plants arranged. Can't wait to see it stocked.

06-14-2010, 05:34 AM
lol! I probably will shove a plastic cow in there at some point. Thanks tori :22:

06-14-2010, 03:37 PM

06-14-2010, 04:07 PM
Looks great! Nice arrangement.

06-15-2010, 03:01 AM
lol, will definatly add a cow. Im sure the students would enjoy it as well, thanks for the comments everyone :22:

06-15-2010, 09:51 PM
Great setup! I can't wait to see it stocked.

06-26-2010, 06:44 AM
Thanks! I did some changes...as said the tank is at my office at work. School is out for the year so I only drop by the office about 3-4 times a week so the cabomba was creating a mess. I ripped it out and put in some random stems I got for free from another plant order, as well as some moneywort I had hanging around. Not sure if I will keep the plants but it will do until the school year starts back and I have more time to devote to it. I am liking the bright green colors so far tho. Anyway...pics:
Marginal pic of a chili rasbora
The HC melted off its emersed growth and is now recovering with submerged growth :)

06-26-2010, 08:18 AM
Looking better and better and better!

06-26-2010, 08:26 AM
Great Looking Tank Jen! It seems like its coming along great!! thumbs2:

06-26-2010, 01:45 PM
Absublutly Stunning!!!!

06-26-2010, 03:57 PM
Thanks everyone! :22:

06-26-2010, 03:59 PM
Absolutely fabulous! Great tank.

06-26-2010, 04:59 PM
Very beautiful tank Jenn...as always.:shappy:

06-26-2010, 05:37 PM
I love this tank. Covet it even.

I am so jealous of your talent with plants.

06-27-2010, 01:33 AM
Thanks for the kind words everyone!

This tank is very easy to keep, obviously since I only see it a couple of times a week. Plants grow like weeds and so far Im only having to dose twice a week...so that is a plus.

I do hope to add another dozen cherry shrimp, and atleast 6 more chili rasboras. I would also love to get a couple of scarlet badis for the tank as well. Maybe a few A.vespa cats...one of the great things about these microfish is that they produce next to no bioload and dont take up much space at all. :22:

06-27-2010, 01:43 AM
This tank looks wonderful!

Where do you find your 'microfish' I have never seen anything like them around here (I'm in Manassas, VA).

And....can I hire your planted tank services!?

06-27-2010, 02:18 AM
I get mine from msjinkzd.com...she has fabulous micro fish and lots of choices. lol! Sure Im not terribly far from Manassas :hmm3grin2orange:

06-27-2010, 02:53 AM
Wow! I love her site! And 10.50 for shipping to me is not too bad. I never order fish or plants online because they always seem to cost WAY to much to ship to me!

As my fish in my 20g. go, I think I will replace them with micro fish. And some RCS. Very nice!

06-27-2010, 03:20 AM
Most hardy small fish do very well being shipped even priority mail as long as its only a few states away. Breather bags and proper packaging really make it easy to ship livestock for cheaper. Even if you splurged for Express it would be around $20 which in terms of shipping livestock is cake. :22:

06-27-2010, 04:27 AM
I bet the students and other faculty members love to swing by your office for a visit. I know I would.

It reminds me of what I did during my high school years. I set up a small 5 gallon SW mini reef tank in my bio class and it got a lot of attention. Sometimes more than it really needed, lol. I did mention to everyone that there was a very nasty mantis shrimp inside and he won't be pleased if anyone messes up his home. He was quite the aggressive bugger.

06-27-2010, 04:57 AM
The students and parents really do enjoy the tank...it wasnt stocked at the end of the school year but Im sure some will be interested in the tiny microrasboras and shrimp once they see them. The other faculty...eh, for the most part none of them care they dont really see the point of an aquarium. But then they dont see the point of doing alot of things anyway :hmm3grin2orange:

Your old reef sounds like it was a great tank, Ive always wanted to own a mantis but like my nails where they are :14:

06-27-2010, 05:29 AM
It was really sad one time, I guess one of the students took an astrea snail from another tank and dropped it in my mantis tank. You can probably guess what happened to it.

I came back to find a punctured snail shell and nothing left of the snail. I never found out who was the culprit who did that.

06-27-2010, 05:47 AM
Oh no! Reasons like that are why the tank sits behind my desk on a little table, and why my office is locked at all times unless Im in there :14:

06-27-2010, 06:40 AM
Jenn, That tank is a little beauty! Love the little tiny microrasboras!

07-12-2010, 01:19 AM
I have ordered 3 Dario Dario, 12 more RCS and a Bumble Bee Nerite for this tank. It grown in a good amount...the left side is slowly coming together a little better. Another couple weeks and it should look how I want it. The L.aromatica is in desperate need of a trim...I will do that in a couple of days Id like it to be just a touch taller before cutting. The new stock should arrive on Wed. Ill post a couple of pics this evening if I remember to upload from the camera. :22:

07-12-2010, 03:22 AM
Bumble Bee Nerite ?

Where did you order those from?

07-12-2010, 04:25 AM


07-12-2010, 05:08 AM
Gorgeous tank and I really like the RCS.

07-12-2010, 05:43 AM
That is an extraordinary tank! Not even going to bother pointing put specifics that I like... I'd just describe the whole thing.

How is the shipping price and packaging and everything from that site? I'm thinking about ordering some akysis vespa from her if I can't get find them locally.

07-12-2010, 06:23 AM
Thank you both :22:

Shipping is very reasonable, Im getting a pretty good load of critters/fish and express shipping on them is only $21. Packaging is more than adequate...all orders ive received have came in a styro lined box with packaging peanuts to also help insulate and cushion the ride. I had plans on A.vespa for this tank but they arnt adviseable with dwarf shrimp. You must post photos when you get yours, they are such awesome cats.

Lady Hobbs
07-12-2010, 09:05 AM
I adore this little tank. For some reason, the 10 I just tore down looked nothing like that! lololol

Perhaps I should have used the cow.

07-12-2010, 08:20 PM
lol! Ive been on the look for a small plastic cow for when the HC finally fills in completely. Im sure at any rate the students would find it amusing :22:

07-12-2010, 08:23 PM
Funny that you should mention a plastic cow. I just saw this (http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/content.php?sid=3008&utm_source=PFK_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=July_7_2010&utm_term=Inspirational_aquariums:_Fun_iwagumi&utm_content=html) yesterday at practicalfishkeeping.co.uk Why not more cows? :hmm3grin2orange:

07-12-2010, 08:54 PM
That is an extraordinary tank. Nice job with it.

07-12-2010, 08:55 PM
:hmm3grin2orange: Seems alot of people with foreground carpets are throwing plastic grazing animals in for kicks.

07-15-2010, 02:03 AM
Ok this tank has to be officially the most overstocked tank in the world that still looks empty :14:

I added 7 ember tetras, 3 dario, and 10 more RCS. Which brings us to a whopping head count in the tank of 52 oh my. I will be adding 5 more embers and calling it finished. I wouldnt advice this stock on most 10Gs even with microfish...but it does have a Fluval 105 and lots of fast growing nutrient hungry plants. Considering that none of these animals grow beyond 1" they still have a ton of moving space for themselves as well.

07-15-2010, 03:22 AM
Your tank is stunning - you sure have a knack for design!

07-27-2010, 07:18 AM
Some changes, I got rid of the moneywort...replaced it with more hygro. It should be all filled in within a week or two. The forground has also really taken off.
One of my new male Darios
My only female Dario...females seem to be quite uncommon in the hobby. You can base the size of HC leaves on the fact this fish is around 1/2"

07-27-2010, 08:33 AM
Such a great looking tank, and the darios are beautiful little fish. Do you have a problem with the ratio of more males to females?

07-27-2010, 10:28 AM
Very nice! Handsome little fish.

07-27-2010, 12:53 PM
Stunning tank!

Whenever I see pics like this, I realize my tank leaves much room for improvement.


07-27-2010, 06:31 PM
Thanks everyone! No problems granted these guys are super tiny so they are probably lost in the 10G with all the plants. I also plan to add 3 more to make a group of 6 so Im sure even with the addition of more males there wont be a problem.

This tank has its own share of improvements, I get some filament algae which I havent yet been able to knock out. But its no huge deal as it is easily removed and there isnt alot of it. :22:

07-27-2010, 08:45 PM
Looks great Jenn! Feel free to come fix up my tanks any day. thumbs2:

07-27-2010, 09:16 PM
Your tank is stunning - you sure have a knack for design!

Amen. Jenn, you've got a knack for healthy, stunning beautiful, fish and tanks! You're pictures are amazing, too! I can't wait for the video to come out!

07-28-2010, 06:59 AM
Thanks to you both :22:

I am planning on doing a 2.5G tank...I have always wanted to try my hand at some fancier shrimp than cherries, or maybe just get a black HM betta. I have a couple in storage with fixtures and glass tops. Just need to find the right rock now.

10-11-2010, 02:11 AM
Huge changes for this tank since I last updated. The hygro choked out the L.aromatica I replaced it with Wisteria. The hygro and the HC choked out the Blyxa now as well...I pulled the remaining Blyxa this evening and transplanted some of the HC to its position. I also removed a 1ft square mound of Sunset hygro from the tank...I neglected trimming it for about 10 days and it became a freaking swamp.Pics to come tomorrow.

I also added 3 otos last week thanks to msjinkzd...thinking about adding 12 phoenix rasboras in the coming week. I have my bets I still wont have measurable nitrate and the tank will still appear empty :hmm3grin2orange:

Australian natives
10-11-2010, 11:28 AM
pictures please! =P.
i always love seeing your updates, your aquariums are always so stunning.
keep up the great work.

10-12-2010, 04:29 AM
As requested....

Right side still needs to fill in some and the back HC still needs to fully mat but otherwise Im quite happy with it. I also need to vac under the sod there on the front :hmm3grin2orange:

10-12-2010, 04:43 AM
WoW! Absolutely BEAUTIFUL!!!!! :1luvu:

Australian natives
10-12-2010, 09:01 AM
great tank. can i ask what that is you have as a carpet?

also how do u get your java fern to stick to that type of rock? mine wont stick to anything other than lava rock or driftwood, or do u just have it wedged in a gap?

10-12-2010, 09:28 AM
That is one great looking tank... thumbs2:

10-12-2010, 03:11 PM
The fern is shoved into a crack between 2 rocks, the carpet plant is Hemianthus callitrichoides(HC).

Thanks all! :11:

10-12-2010, 03:23 PM
Great job. You have a knack for aquascaping. I think I'll need to visit your office and sit down and stare at it, lol.

10-12-2010, 04:50 PM
Takashi Amano will be over this afternoon to take his own pictures. I'm telling you Killer, you're in the same class. :ssmile:

10-13-2010, 12:45 AM
Thanks guys! Im sure we would all be Takashi Amanos if we had his tank scape budget, endless supplies and access to plants :hmm3grin2orange:

10-13-2010, 05:01 AM
I love this tank! Great job thumbs2:

How does that HC grow? Did you have to put down a lot and let it fill in or does it spread readily?

Are those Embers I see in there as well?

10-13-2010, 07:13 AM
I bought 3 pots of HC and removed as much wool as I could and broke them up into 3-4 sections for each pot and sporatically planted them in the tank. The little bit of wool left is a great asset to help the HC root into the substrate and keep it held down until it can. It will have a die off as most HC is grown emersed but it will soon perk back up and grow into a thick mat of sod. It does require atleast 3WPG and preferably some CO2 and rich substrate :22:

They are embers, I have 8 embers,18 Chili rasbora, 3 Dario dario, 3 otos.

10-13-2010, 07:32 AM
I bought 3 pots of HC and removed as much wool as I could and broke them up into 3-4 sections for each pot and sporatically planted them in the tank. The little bit of wool left is a great asset to help the HC root into the substrate and keep it held down until it can. It will have a die off as most HC is grown emersed but it will soon perk back up and grow into a thick mat of sod. It does require atleast 3WPG and preferably some CO2 and rich substrate :22:

They are embers, I have 8 embers,18 Chili rasbora, 3 Dario dario, 3 otos.

I saw embers today for the 1st time, am now considering them potentially instead of cardinals due to their size.

I do have co2 and I'm at 4wpg. I'm not sure how happy I am with my dwarf hair grass as its growing taller than I anticipated. Your HC looks like it stays a little tighter to the substrate.

10-13-2010, 07:35 AM
It does, I would say at most it will get about 1.5" thick...you can always thin it by pulling some out to keep it thinner if you wanted as well.

11-02-2010, 05:37 AM
I sold my carpet of HC, it had started to become a PITA to keep confined to its area. Plus I dont have time right now especially with the holiday break coming up to tend to the 2X a week prunning this tank needs. Big rescape to come, I am going to remove the Ember tetras as they have killed my shrimp and pester the rasboras to no end. I am going to keep it a "high tech" tank but go with plants that dont grow so fast. Pics to come tomorrow as I pull out all the Hygro and figure out what to do with it. :22:

11-21-2010, 07:22 AM
Re-scape complete...well almost I may add more Red/bronze crypts to the back depending on how the small ones in the back grow in. I also need to hookup the CO2 to it, but I am rather pleased with the tank and its new look. I used the Seriyu stone from the 2.5G betta tank in addition to this Ryuoh stone...they are honestly visibly about the same anyway. Plants are simple, ferns, crypts, and anubias....as with all of my other scapes. But these will appreciate the somewhat higher light levels and the CO2 injection.

I did remove the Ember tetras, they had killed well over 30 cherry shrimp and a few of my Chili rasbora. I am going to replace them with a few more Chili rasbora, and a few more Dario Dario...Id also like to add a few amano shrimp and maybe some nerites.

Current stock:
15 Chili Rasbora(bump them up to 24)
3 Otos
3 Dario dario(bump them up to 6)

Anyway this is the tank a month or so ago in its prime:

This is the tank after a fresh re-scape:

11-21-2010, 02:58 PM
I also need to hookup the CO2 to it, but I am rather pleased with the tank and its new look.

Wait all that growth was without the CO2? I was going to ask what you thought of the system since it looked nice and compact but wasn't sure if the cylinders would last long enough.

11-21-2010, 05:22 PM
I had the CO2 unhooked for about the last week preparing for the rescape. I sold the carpet of HC and gave away most of the hygro...so didnt have a need for it. I also switched away from that Pierce system due to the cylinders being expensive and not lasting nearly as long as I thought they would. I use 2 DIY bottles now hooked to a glass diffuser.

12-06-2010, 04:00 AM
Placed an order from Msjinkzd this evening to top off my stock after the Embers trail of destruction. Im getting:

9 Chili Rasbora(24 total)
4 Dario Dario(7 total)
5 Amanos
3 Red Spot Nerites

I also added a female teal blue betta, she is getting on quite well with the chilies and darios. Plus she ads a stark contrast against my primarily red stock.

12-15-2010, 05:11 AM
Unfortunatly all of my new Chili rasbora arrived dead. I did manage to get the rest in all alive and healthy :11:

Tank is filling in nicely, here is a couple of pics:
my female betta...
dario dario

I had to dip the large fern in Excel as it came with filament and hair algae which wouldnt go away with just CO2..hence the leaf tips are now somewhat browned.

12-15-2010, 05:52 AM
I'm really fond of that dario! How big are yours at present?

And the tank is awesome, as always :)

12-15-2010, 06:13 AM
My oldest ones are fully grown at 3/4" the new ones are around 1/2" or so. They are awesome little fish :22:

12-15-2010, 03:16 PM
Unfortunatly all of my new Chili rasbora arrived dead.

Sorry to hear about that. What happened?

12-15-2010, 04:42 PM
No idea, the temps werent that bad...it was above freezing. They were also in a stryo shipping cooler with 2 heatpacks. The darios all made it and they are sensitive to temperature and water conditions. Chilies are very hardy little fish...I have had them lost in the mail before and arrive just fine 6 days later. Just one of those things, I will probably order a few more when temps are better :11:

02-22-2011, 05:42 AM
Thought I would post an update of the tank:


Over winter break the crypt on the right melted back alot but it is coming back now. The one on the back left has grown like a freaking weed. Im going to look for some tall windelov as I am impatient on waiting for the center plant to grow tall enough to hide the intake.

02-22-2011, 03:52 PM
Gorgeous Jenn....the Chili Rasbora are striking... :18:

02-22-2011, 08:08 PM
Thanks Taurus, Chili Rasbora are quite the lookers I agree :22:

02-22-2011, 11:25 PM
all I can say is - "wow"

02-23-2011, 12:55 AM
Beautiful!!! thumbs2:

02-23-2011, 12:55 AM
wow thats beauutiful you've got skillllz with fish and scaping!

02-23-2011, 05:22 AM
Thanks all :11: This tank is such a simple scape...and so low upkeep its awesome. I rarely ever have to prune or move anything...just drain out a gallon of water every week, dose ferts 3X and make sure the CO2 is going.

07-12-2011, 01:01 AM
I tore this tank down today, I had somehow gotten an infestation of pest snails and dumped in 3 assassins to kill them. Which it took a few months for the assassins to complete their mission, when they did my substrate was absolutely covered in snail shells. I replaced the EcoComplete with a bag of Flourite Black today...and have reworked the hardscape. My female betta had been snacking on the Chili Rasbora while I have been on summer break...I moved her and the 3 otos to the 100G at home. I am down to 6 Chili rasbora in the tank now. I have also ordered a Green C.wendtii, C.wendtii "mi oya", a bunch of Rotala rotundifolia, and some Blyxa japonica. I kept 3 Anubias nana, some C.nurii, and a few of the bronze C.wendtii from the scape pictured above.

I expect my plants to arrive on Thursday, once I get them in and finalize the scape I will post pics. I also will be completely restocking the tank. I am thinking of this:

20 Chili Rasbora
8 Yunnanilus cruciatus-or-Hara jerdoni

07-12-2011, 07:26 AM
I have to say.... I'm so disappointed............................ Where's that FLAmIN' COW?!? :hmm3grin2orange:

Seriously, nice looking tank.... before you tore it down. I find i have to take my 2.5g off the wall and shut it down, fill all decor, substrate etc with boiling water for the exact same reason... snails. But everytime i do it, they bounce right back! Grr :14: And the worse thing is, there are NO plants in it

07-12-2011, 10:45 AM
Try an assassin snail or two, they really do the job and will in time kill out all of your population of snails. You will instead be tearing the tank down to remove the snail shells. lol

07-12-2011, 11:37 AM
just caught up with your journal here. I thought it was amazing with the HC carpet, but like it even better with it out. The rocks you chose are too beautiful to cover up!

And sorry about your snail problems. At least its under control now.

07-13-2011, 02:39 AM
HC is a great plant, it is however a PITA since it grows over top of everything. I like it better without...much cleaner look and easier to keep clean. I just placed an order with Msjinkzed to restock my Chili Rasbora...getting 18 from her for a total of 24. I am also getting the 8 Dwarf Zebra Hovering Loaches. I have never kept loaches and this black flourite is pretty fine I expect they will be ok on it. My cories in the 100G have super long barbels so I dont forsee an issue.

07-13-2011, 05:08 AM
Personally I'd go with the cruciatus rather than the Hara's. I like active, visible fish in a small tank. With all those beautiful plants the catfish would never be seen.

07-13-2011, 05:11 AM
That was my thought as well, getting the loaches. They are shipping next Monday....I am super excited as these are my first loach species.

07-13-2011, 06:14 AM
I cant get assasin snails here in Dubai.

07-16-2011, 08:25 PM
Sucks, snails are very difficult to get rid of...I have battled them in the past.

I received the plants for this tank as well...I received a bunch of stems which are in pretty bad shape and im not 100% sure what they are. My blyxa japonica is not japonica it is actually Blyxa aubertii. I also did not receive my pot of C.wendtii "mi oya" at all...and the green wendtii I received isnt in the best of condition. Kind of a disappointing order from AquariumPlants.com. I have contacted them about the screw ups...I will see how it goes.

08-02-2011, 03:12 AM
Tank as it stands now, I have a nice nano drop checker on order. That poor plastic one keeps getting the boot. I also have two 2L soda bottles going to provide CO2...using champagne yeast this time with *MUCH* better results than baking yeast. I do have an airpump on a timer at night so the fish dont suffocate.
Dwarf Zebra Hovering Loach...the food stick is about 3/4" for size reference
Feeding frenzy!

The stock thanks to msjinkzd's freebies is up to:

30 Chili Rasbora
12 Hovering Loaches
3 Red Spot Nerites

08-02-2011, 03:20 AM
Nice loaches look great

08-02-2011, 03:26 AM
Thanks they are my first loaches, if the rest of the species is as entertaining as these guys I must own more. lol

08-02-2011, 08:01 AM
Awesome looking fish!

I have never seen any fish THAT small (barring fry). Wish i was close enough to order from that supplier. Have you ever been to visit him/her?

08-02-2011, 12:51 PM
It doesnt take much to get into loaches Jenn :)

08-02-2011, 03:40 PM
The loaches are a great addition Jenn.

08-02-2011, 04:25 PM
Just don't get skunk loaches I have 8 and I absolutely hate them. The rest of the species I love. (P.S. it is not because they are smelly) Pun intended.

08-03-2011, 02:26 AM
Thanks all!

Why do you hate your skunk loaches?

08-25-2011, 01:58 AM
Just an update of the office tank, it is growing in very well. Here it was on 8-1-11
Here it is today,
Ive not done anything as far as trimming the C.wendtii or C.nurii...Ive only repositioned some of the pygmy chain swords and Ive trimmed a total of around a ft off the rotala within the last week. The DIY setup I have on this tank keeps it in the yellow at all times, I have an airpump that comes on about an hour before the light goes out and remains on until it comes on the next day. Sadly I think I could stand a few more fish, microrasbora are so tiny even with well over 2dozen it still looks bare most of the day.

08-25-2011, 04:33 PM
I think that I liked the look of it more before it all filled in.

08-26-2011, 02:54 AM
lol, It still has a way to go, rotala needs to be trimmed and shaped now that its filling in and I need to thin out the foreground some so the rocks can be more prevalent. I will also have to remove some of the crypts once they grow in. :22:

08-26-2011, 03:02 AM
I love the rock work in the tank .

11-07-2011, 05:40 AM
This tank has started to leak, thats what I get for using a wallyworld generic tank I guess :hmm3grin2orange:

The leak is however very gradual, Im only loosing a few ounces of water per day around the bottom seam. I have a towel on the problem area and it is damp by the end of the day so it is working out for now by just keeping a dry towel on it. I am however going to replace the tank with an acrylic one, I am going for an acrylic 20G high...
http://www.fishtanksdirect.com/20gallon24x13x16rectangularaquariumbyseaclearfrees hipping.aspx

This will allow me to expand my shoal of micro fish as well...Id like to have a group of CPDs and maybe some yellow shrimp...probably also bump my Chili Rasbora up to 30 and my dwarf hovering loaches up to 20 :11:

11-07-2011, 06:27 AM
Great excuse to upgrade the tank size, bigger is always better. thumbs2:

11-07-2011, 06:49 AM
For sure, it is also a great excuse to check out the service of fishtanksdirect.com. I had planned to use them in the future when I upgrade my current tanks to acrylic.

I am going to just use things I have laying around for this upgrade. Going to use a 24" Coralife T5NO fixture(28watt), go with my 10Gs present Fluval 105, and I will cap my flourite black with some Tahitian Moon Sand. I will also probably add an internal filter for some extra circulation and filtration. I may also incorporate some manzanita into the new scape along with the Seriyu/Ryuoh stone.

11-07-2011, 07:16 AM
I've never been a fan of internal filters unless you count powerheads with quickfilters. I'm getting to like air-driven sponge filters more and more, though I'm not about to take out the aquaclears or eheim canisters on my larger tanks.

11-07-2011, 07:38 AM
This is essentially a quickfilter...I have started to use them instead of circulation pumps as it does some extra mechanical filtration for essentially the same amount of space being taken up.

11-07-2011, 05:41 PM
Bummer on the leak. Will be watching for the new tank journal. thumbs2:

06-24-2012, 05:55 AM
I wound up not setting up the 20G...and instead I tore down the tank. However I did use the time to re-arrange my office and plan for this summer. I take the opportunity every summer to re-invent my office tank for the school year. This year it is going to be a rather interesting divided betta tank. Many of the students keep bettas, and many who have came into my office ask if I keep bettas as well. I thought it would be an excellent opportunity to show them what a proper setup looks like. The SO helped me build a stand to hold 2 10G tanks along a wall where I had a small bookshelf. After nearly 2 years of having a tank I feel I can trust my students to be respectful. Plus it is across the room from my desk so I can watch them all day :11:

So far here is what is going on with the tank:

10G...back painted black and divided down the middle.
2 Duetto 100s...one for each side
24watt PC fixture
1.25" of sand...mix of flourite black sand, moonlite sand, play sand, and some crushed quartz sand
manzanita branches
small black river stones

Plants so far are just some Anubias nana, Anubias petite, Crypt parva, Crypt lucens, Guppy Grass, Needle Leaf. I have ordered some Round Pellia for more foreground and I am probably going to move in a bronze crypt or two.

I already have 2 males in the tank and a preliminary scape going. I have a Marble Delta on one side...and my old(and favorite) Blue HMPK. I am contemplating tankmates for them....I would *love* some A.vespa and H.jerdoni one species per side, alas I do not see that one happening.

Pics to come first of the week, letting things clear up some.

06-24-2012, 09:35 AM
Hm.. doesn't this call for a new thread?

06-24-2012, 02:54 PM
Not really since it is still my office tank and it is still a 10G...this is just its most drastic change yet. I may get a mod to slap an s on tanks, as I will be setting up a 2nd soon.

06-24-2012, 05:38 PM
Great record of your tank's evolution. Those plants look wonderfully healthy! Very impressive.

I'm trying to keep my plants alive (for once) and am currently dosing liquid CO2 each day (but have nothing else). What fertilisers would you recommend? And, would you fertilise in addition to dosing liquid CO2 or instead of?

06-24-2012, 07:21 PM
Think of CO2 as a plants metabolism, the more CO2 you have the higher their growth demands are thus they need more nutrients. I would dose in addition to CO2...I personally use RootMedic ferts...but Seachem Flourish Comprehensive is a good all purpose fert for most plants.

06-24-2012, 07:23 PM
Be careful with liquid CO2, not all plants take it well.

06-24-2012, 07:51 PM
I've been dosing 2ml per day (110 litres of water) and the plants all seem ok. I'm battling a bit of brown algae on one species of plant at the moment. I've ordered some Sera fertiliser tablets (you can't seem to order SeaChem in the UK).

Thanks for your advice. :fish2:

06-25-2012, 03:14 AM
Just read this whole journal for the first time today. Love it! and love all your different rescapes and plants.

I can't wait to see how the betta thing turns out. thumbs2:

06-27-2012, 02:30 AM
Just note not all plants can make benefit of substrate tabs...liquid ferts are more widely accepted by most plants.

Thanks CL!

I have been in contact with a guy who does some Thailand imports...Ive messed with trans shippers before and will not do it again. He has in a wide selection of Giants...the hardest part is choosing a color morph. I have it narrowed down to a blue butterfly, mustard gas, and a blue dragon with red fins. Guy is also offering them at an awesome price...so it is hard to say no :) I will have the "Giants" tank up tomorrow...hope to have the fish shipped by Monday.

06-27-2012, 04:30 AM
Ok, as promised here is the tank. I still need to add some additional needle leaf c. parva, and a large anubias nana to the DTs half...and I would like to get some floating plants in there. Otherwise Im done outside of letting everything grow out.

The tank:
The delta:
The old HMPK:

I just realized the HMPK better known as "freebie" has been with me for nearly 2.5 years. I am also still amazed I picked up a delta tail at Wal-Mart out of the "veil" cups.

06-27-2012, 04:34 AM
Oh my god that first betta is absolutely gorgeous! I love it! :19:

And your tank looks wonderful :) I wish I could set up a fish tank in my workplace!

06-27-2012, 05:22 AM
Wow just wow is all you can say when reading through this journal. Usually when you think a divided betta tank usually you think will look weird. There is nothing but amazement from this setup. Looks so natural.

06-27-2012, 02:28 PM
Thanks! I have really striven to make the tank not look weird despite being divided. It is challenging considering the divider and 2 internal filters.

06-27-2012, 02:35 PM
Awesome!!! Your betta tank is such an inspiration. It looks amazing. Congrats

Lady Hobbs
06-27-2012, 02:58 PM
Everytime I look at Jenns small tanks, I want to go stick my foot thrrough mine! I have ripped mine down 102 times, hate it and it has nothing in it but shrimp. Blahhhhhhhh

06-27-2012, 03:04 PM
lol, get ya some manzanita branches and some needle leaf, really it is about the easiest thing to work with and no matter what you do with it...it looks natural and pleasing.

I am debating on putting my chili rasbora in with the HMPK, and something else with the DT.

07-06-2012, 03:49 AM
Let me know how it goes with the rasbora's if you get them.

07-06-2012, 05:17 AM
I have read through this thread and all I can say is


07-06-2012, 05:42 AM
I have them...I just have not fully decided if I want anything else in this divided betta tank or not. Ive kept them with bettas before...works out fine if your chili rasbora are fully adult.

Thanks! I am also equally impressed you read through 16 pages of madness :22:

07-06-2012, 05:59 AM
I have them...I just have not fully decided if I want anything else in this divided betta tank or not. Ive kept them with bettas before...works out fine if your chili rasbora are fully adult.

Thanks! I am also equally impressed you read through 16 pages of madness :22:
I took 60 pages of Brhino(jk)... hehe
Can't wait to see where it goes.
Great wood!

07-06-2012, 08:43 PM
O I readdthrough it too it was a huge inspiration and frustration haha. I kept trying to make mine look good like yours but it just wouldn't happen lol. Have you ever used glow light tetras with a Betta?

07-07-2012, 07:29 AM
Not glowlights...I would do it with a shortfin betta or females, would probably be wary with long fin males.

07-07-2012, 02:43 PM
That's what I was concerned about do you have any recommendations on putting anything in with him and just curious what kind of divider did you use in your tank?

07-07-2012, 03:30 PM
Pygmy cories, Amano shrimp, Ottos...if its a nice long fin male I would avoid any tankmates which could nip at the fins. Its just a 10G divider from Petsmart...no idea what brand it was.

07-07-2012, 03:36 PM
Ya I was thinking about getting a big school of oto's because my local store has tank bred oto's. I was even thinking some type of rasbora but I need to read up on what fin nips and what doesn't. Do you still have the other office tank or did you transfer that one into the betta one?

07-07-2012, 03:39 PM
I will have 2 tanks in my office, both will be home to bettas. I am planning a Giant for the 2nd tank. However the seller I was in contact with has not continued communication with me and I am not sure what is up with him. I may opt for another betta species or a single halfmoon.

07-07-2012, 08:30 PM
I will NEVER buy a tank devidor again. They are SUPPER easy to make. All you need is report binder spines (not the spiral ones) and the mesh that you can get in the craft section of walmart for ~$1. To make the dividor all that you do is cut the mesh to fit the inside of the tank (start bigger than you think it needs to be) and slip on 2 binder spines (one for each side). Then all that you do is put it in the tank, add gravel (this will stabalize it even more, you could use any substrate) and fill the tank. You HALF TO put the devidor in BEFORE the gravel otherwise there will be gaps where a betta could get through to the other side. (happened with me my first time. I found the bettas in the wrong section 3 times before I realized what had happened. Both bettas are still doing good though despite fighting).

The total cost pet devidor is less than $2. It takes about 3-5 minutes to make one.

07-07-2012, 09:42 PM
Im super lazy and spent the $9 on the divider that I didnt have to mess with. It also has stainless clips which make me feel even more confident about its sturdiness.

07-14-2012, 01:24 AM
Well I finally broke down and did it....I bought a "Giant" betta. The originally seller stopped communication with me and I wound up finding one on ebay. He isnt a HM but...still an attractive fish...and for about 1/3 the price of the other fish I was interested in. He will be rooming with my dwarf hovering loaches and some endlers. :11:

Pic from the seller, fish ships monday. He is over 3" and only 7 months old...going to be a big betta.

07-14-2012, 09:44 AM
Blimey, I didn't know you could get giant fighting fish! How big can they get?

07-14-2012, 02:46 PM
There have been some wild claims of Giants reaching 6". However most will ultimately tap out around 3.5-4".

07-17-2012, 05:37 AM
I received the fish today, I have him in a 2.5G tank at home until I finish the tank up at work. I must say that I am very impressed with the fish...it is much larger than I imagined. 3" body length and 3/4" thick body...damn nice fish too. After seeing this guy in person, I would never think of keeping one in less than 10 gallons.....

07-18-2012, 07:53 PM
Cough.. Picture Cough..

07-18-2012, 10:20 PM
Yes please! Gratuitous photos required! :19:

07-18-2012, 10:49 PM
Cough.. Picture Cough..

This must be contagious because that is what I was thinking and coughing :hmm3grin2orange:

I and I want a picture of the tank that he is in currently for size comparison.

07-19-2012, 02:33 AM
I moved him to my office today...felt sorry for the poor dude. I will take some pics of him in a 10G...which trust me is bare minimum. I moved my chilies in with my 2 divided males...they will be much safer. One of my students was at a summer program at the school and saw the fish. It has now been named "Shamu" :hmm3grin2orange:

Pics tomorrow!

07-19-2012, 01:19 PM
One of my students was at a summer program at the school and saw the fish. It has now been named "Shamu" :hmm3grin2orange:

Pics tomorrow!

Shamu the mchrKILLER betta! :hmm3grin2orange:

07-20-2012, 12:06 AM
I like that name for the giant betta.

07-20-2012, 03:43 PM
Pic?? I would like to meet Shamu?

07-20-2012, 10:48 PM
I have taken the pics, just havent had time to load them...I will try to get on that early in the morning :11:

I also made a video of the tank...which shows how active even a 10G can be.

07-20-2012, 11:02 PM

07-22-2012, 03:32 AM
Pics! :14:

The tank!
Crappy photo, yet it shows how large the betta is in comparison to the 1" endlers and the 10G itself. This fish is also still growing I expect him to hit nearly 4".
Only halfway decent photo I could get of him, he was very busy flaring at himself in the back of the tank.

07-22-2012, 03:33 AM
I do like Endlers...probably the only livebearer I would mess with
The Oto

07-22-2012, 05:04 AM


Old Marine
07-22-2012, 06:26 AM
Tank looks Greatthumbs2: Outstanding Video, Thank You for sharing:19:

07-22-2012, 09:46 AM
Looks great! What a nice shady environment for them.

Do you use CO2 for your plants?

07-22-2012, 02:37 PM
No, this tank is going to be very low tech...I dont have time at work to mess with the demands of CO2. :11:


07-22-2012, 03:11 PM
Very nice tank! How are those endlers fairing with the big betta?

07-22-2012, 07:51 PM
Your tank looks AMAZING as usual. I personally do not think that your betta looks any bigger than what normal bettas look like. He seems to be pretty shy. The loaches looked like they were having a fun time.

07-23-2012, 01:58 AM
He isnt a huge fish...but compared side by side to a normal betta there is a big difference. I am sure he has never been in a real tank before probably just jars and bowls. Thus I am sure it will take him some time to adapt.

He did chase the other fish in the tank now, but with all of the wood he cannot catch them. Thus he has stopped trying :11:

09-02-2012, 05:32 PM
The tank with the Giant is doing very well...he has calmed down into the perfect citizen. He did munch on the smaller endlers along the way...I have ordered a few more to replace them with.

Now the divided betta tank is going to receive a serious overhaul. I had to euthanize the old blue HMPK...he was just doing very poorly. Most likely due to age. I also gave the marbled delta to one of my students who really loved his coloration. Which now leaves me with an empty tank...

I am debating on a SA themed tank of nano fish. Thinking about doing a custom manzanita theme with the wood being vertical in placement. For stock I am thinking about 12 Embers, 12 Pymgy Cories, and 2 Otos. Filtration would be increased to an AquaClear 50. Im thinking of doing a Crypt scape with only some sparse Anubias and Mini Pelia. Hopefully a dark tanic tank to compliment the Giant's lair.

09-02-2012, 05:46 PM
I think it's well overdue that we had a photo update thumbs2:

09-02-2012, 06:52 PM
I do need to get a new photo of the Giant HMPK tank...it is a low tech tank so growth is slow, it is just now really showing much change :11:

09-06-2012, 03:34 AM
I just contacted msjinkzd about some pygmy corydoras. She does have C.pygmaeus in stock. Super cute little guys which really like circulation...they will love the AC50 Im putting on there. I will be ordering 12 of them to start off with...followed by 12-15 Embers and an Oto or two...should be a very active tank. Maybe even beating out Shamu and the Endlers tank :14:

09-09-2012, 02:52 PM
Have you considered trying the CPD's?

09-09-2012, 04:28 PM
I have, just not really interested in them and they wont fit my "SA" theme.