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Cococrunch
04-27-2010, 05:25 PM
Not much but i was Bored so yeah.. i don't even think this is Thread Worthy :)

The Goldfish; A common Fish in the Aquarium Trade Which i don't recommend it for Starters Unless They have the
Right Tank size for them Because they get Pretty Big Compared to Other Community Fish.

Recommended Tank Size / Housing:
A 15 Gallon - 20 Gallon Tank For a Single Fancy Goldfish And i Recommend at least 55g+ or a Pond For Comets/Commons
Any additionals i Recommend 10 Gallons - 15 Gallons for Fancies and 30 Gallons - 40 Gallons to provide Space for them To
grow and Reach There Maximum Size.

Feeding:
A good Base would be Sinking Pellets,Floating Pellets and Flakes; Fresh Fruits
Such as Mangoes and Bananas; Live Food such as Brine Shrimp, Tubifex Worms, Blood worms etc. As Snacks

Remember Never too Overfeed Especially to Fancies Like Pearlscales Which are Prone to Bloat Because of it's Crumped Body
Shape (Egg shape) Form Only Feed them what they can consume in 2 Minutes - 3 Minutes; I also suggest
You fast them once a week Preferably Weekends and Feed them Pea's To avoid Constipation and Bloating.

Also Avoid Overcrowding or Overstocking that's one thing i have picked up to Avoid Bad Water Quality Which Leads
to Fin rot as Goldfish Produce alot of waste.


Goldfish Types and Sizes: (Courtesy of Lady Hobbs)

Common Goldfish 12 +
Comet Goldfish 12 +
Shubunkin Goldfish 10
Fantail Goldfish 6
Veiltail Goldfish 6-8
Celestial Goldfish 5-6
Bubble-Eye Goldfish 6-8
Calico Goldfish also called the Shubunkin
Butterfly Tail Goldfish 9
Telescope-Eye Goldfish 8
Ranchu Goldfish 6
Moor Goldfish 10
Oranda Goldfish 8-12
Lionhead Goldfish 6
Lionchu Goldfish 6
Pearlscale Goldfish 8
Ryukin Goldfish 4-6
Wakin Goldfish 10
Pom-Pon Goldfish 5
Jikin Goldfish 9
Note: There Are also Calico Types in Some of the Goldfish Mentioned Not just the Shubunkin.

Well That's All for Now I hope you now Realize How big They Really get and They're Not meant for Small Fish Bowls

Any Feedbacks Would be Appreciated :22:

-Coco :22:

Scrup
04-27-2010, 07:21 PM
Ryukins can reach well over 6". A healthy well kept ryukin will easily reach 10".

Also may want to note if the measurements include the tail or not. Makes a big difference with the fancy tailed varieties when the tails can be just as long, if not longer than the fish itself.

VoidParadigm
04-27-2010, 10:57 PM
Looks fairly decent, though I think 2-3 minutes feeding for flakes/pellets is too much. I don't feed my goldfish more than they can eat of that in 15 seconds.

If I let them have 2 minute long feedings I'd be going through a can of food every other day.

Cococrunch
04-28-2010, 04:28 AM
Ryukins can reach well over 6". A healthy well kept ryukin will easily reach 10".

Also may want to note if the measurements include the tail or not. Makes a big difference with the fancy tailed varieties when the tails can be just as long, if not longer than the fish itself.

I do Agree with you Scrup Especially When They're of the Veiltail Variaties With Long Flowy Fins I'll Try to Get More info on Them if Need Be.


Looks fairly decent, though I think 2-3 minutes feeding for flakes/pellets is too much. I don't feed my goldfish more than they can eat of that in 15 seconds.

If I let them have 2 minute long feedings I'd be going through a can of food every other day.

What I mean in 2 Minute Long Feeds is Just Pinches of Flakes or Pellets I don't do it Myself though some Goldfish Experts in Other Forums and Some caresheets i've read Advice it.

Anyways Thanks for the Feedback Guys!


-Coco

VoidParadigm
04-28-2010, 02:40 PM
Don't believe everything you read. =P There are still sites out there afterall that condone the use of bowls, Betta vases, and no filtration. Stuff like a bit generous feeding doesn't seem like much, but some people do truly take it to heart and give their goldfish constant food for those two minutes. Especially in the Fancy varieties this can cause compaction.

When doing up a caresheet always include only what you think is right, not just what other people tell you.

Examples for when I was starting in the hobby:
Someone told me I could have three goldfish, two barbs and a pleco in a three gallon. And I was supposed to feed them four times a day.
Someone told me then that I could have four Gouramis in a five gallon.
(And of course all but one of those fish has since died, obviously, but still.)
Those two tanks sounded a bit off to me even when I was just starting, but I didn't push the matter because I trusted in the person to tell me what was right.

And, sorry if this sounds lecturing, but really it's not. :lol: I just want you to make sure you're standing by what you think is the right thing to do. (The 55 gallon for a Common, for example. Most people would consider that overkill, but really, it's not and it produces beautifully shaped fish. Can't find it right now, but there's some guy on Youtube who has just 4 Fancies in a 200 gallon. They are the healthiest, prettiest Fancies I've ever seen - and I hate fancies. :lol:)

Okay, that turned kinda ranty. Sorry!
Is a great caresheet otherwise, though, honest! :lol:

Cococrunch
04-28-2010, 02:45 PM
Don't believe everything you read. =P There are still sites out there afterall that condone the use of bowls, Betta vases, and no filtration. Stuff like a bit generous feeding doesn't seem like much, but some people do truly take it to heart and give their goldfish constant food for those two minutes. Especially in the Fancy varieties this can cause compaction.

When doing up a caresheet always include only what you think is right, not just what other people tell you.

Examples for when I was starting in the hobby:
Someone told me I could have three goldfish, two barbs and a pleco in a three gallon. And I was supposed to feed them four times a day.
Someone told me then that I could have four Gouramis in a five gallon.
(And of course all but one of those fish has since died, obviously, but still.)
Those two tanks sounded a bit off to me even when I was just starting, but I didn't push the matter because I trusted in the person to tell me what was right.

And, sorry if this sounds lecturing, but really it's not. :lol: I just want you to make sure you're standing by what you think is the right thing to do. (The 55 gallon for a Common, for example. Most people would consider that overkill, but really, it's not and it produces beautifully shaped fish. Can't find it right now, but there's some guy on Youtube who has just 4 Fancies in a 200 gallon. They are the healthiest, prettiest Fancies I've ever seen - and I hate fancies. :lol:)

Okay, that turned kinda ranty. Sorry!
Is a great caresheet otherwise, though, honest! :lol:

Lol! Its alright! i Love having Feedbacks from Other members! But really 4 Fancies in a 200gallon? Can you send me the Link? :)

VoidParadigm
04-28-2010, 02:51 PM
Ah, here we go. Found it.

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Hard to see how big the tank actually is until the picture of the photographer at the end. Either way, whether they took their tank measurements correctly or not, those goldfish are still extremely well cared for, clean and rather happy looking.

Bristley
04-28-2010, 02:55 PM
I really like that those fancies have so much space to swim around in. They look beautiful. But, personnally I think that tank needs more plants.

Cococrunch
04-28-2010, 03:42 PM
Ah, here we go. Found it.

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Hard to see how big the tank actually is until the picture of the photographer at the end. Either way, whether they took their tank measurements correctly or not, those goldfish are still extremely well cared for, clean and rather happy looking.

Such Beauties! Yes it's definitely a 200g Tall Maybe that's why he can't do much for Aquascaping :).

Agroagro
04-29-2010, 03:29 PM
Cool post.

I like that video to but it seems like they dont even use the top 20% of the tank. I sure bet they are happier fish then most tho.


This shape tank gave me an DIY decoration idea.
basically cut some island shaped pieces of foam out and attach a long pole into the bottom of it. Then to the bottom of the pole attach some light plants that dont need rooting. paint the foam and pole accordingly with water safe paint. some attention would need to be payed to that the plants buoyancy doesnt flip the island onto its side.

Cococrunch
04-29-2010, 03:38 PM
Cool post.

I like that video to but it seems like they dont even use the top 20% of the tank. I sure bet they are happier fish then most tho.


This shape tank gave me an DIY decoration idea.
basically cut some island shaped pieces of foam out and attach a long pole into the bottom of it. Then to the bottom of the pole attach some light plants that dont need rooting. paint the foam and pole accordingly with water safe paint. some attention would need to be payed to that the plants buoyancy doesnt flip the island onto its side.

Thanks!
Yep they sure are ROOMY in there! i want to have a swim with them LOL :hmm3grin2orange:

FishGirl-Seattle
05-23-2010, 04:27 PM
Wow, they sure look happy - kudos to you for saving them! And thanks for posting your video, it's always a pleasure to see well cared for fish doing the happy fish dance! thumbs2:

aya
03-20-2012, 10:03 AM
wow i didnt know that mangoe or banana can be feed to goldie thank you maybe ill try sometime :D i dunno what bloodworm is before but when i do some research i get one and feed them

Tiari
03-20-2012, 12:45 PM
A small note on goldfish. Certain goldfish types should not be mixed in a tank generally. Fancies and Commons (comets, shabunkin), because the commons are faster and will likely eat all the food before the fancies can get to it.

Fishguy2727
03-21-2012, 03:42 AM
I don't think that is overfeeding. I feed mine generously. I think if that causes bloat the food wasn't good enough in the first place, it is the quality's fault, not the quantity's.

Feeding more will lower water quality faster though so the more heavily and frequently you feed the more/larger water changes are needed.

Pompey_legend13
03-21-2012, 08:22 AM
I really liked the video, they are nice goldfish Also really good post, I found it very interesting Thanks!!!!