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Full3R
04-18-2006, 01:49 PM
Ok i know you told me not to use an undergravel filterbut i had it before you told me that and theres alot of poop and old fish food gathering ontop of the gravel and i was curious why this is happening?

I still plan to use the ungergravel filter, but can anyone tell me wats the best filter that takes the stuff from the gravels surface

rollie
04-18-2006, 02:11 PM
sipon it off!!

Full3R
04-18-2006, 02:29 PM
u see ive done that, many times, but it comes back too quickly, the fish even start to lose the activeness and lie around, thats common for oscars but they get really droopy

rollie
04-18-2006, 02:50 PM
you could be over feeding, or could be to many fish, for that size tank, maybe!! a type of power filter, might help. whisper make good ones.

Full3R
04-18-2006, 03:28 PM
theres only three fish in the tank, i siphoned the crud out, and then i realised there was a unearth section of filter so i covered it and its working, im still buying a above gravel filter to be safe

Thanx

BigFutch
04-21-2006, 03:37 PM
You could also try using various types of catfish as bottom feeders. Depending on the size of the tank and the fish currently in the tank a group of cory cats may or may not work. This method has always worked for me.

Full3R
04-21-2006, 05:07 PM
in a previous community tank i had cory cats and they worked great, but this is an oscar tank, so i might get a larger pleco, possibly a sailfin

NorthernBoy
04-21-2006, 05:13 PM
I had a pleco with my oscars and they all got along great. Although I started with the pleco larger than the oscars were.

William
04-21-2006, 07:02 PM
How do you siphon? You should press the siphon down in the gravel about 1 inch / 2 -3 cm for better result. This helps you remove more "crud"

Full3R
04-21-2006, 07:52 PM
when i have the gravel cleaner i use that siphoning method william, but this time there was just "crud" ontop of the gravel so i just siphoned that off, the next day i did a full tank clean