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SunSchein89
03-20-2010, 02:04 AM
Well I figured I'd hop on the band wagon and start my own aquarium journal. I've been saving up pictures so I can see how my plants are growing. I'll probably post updates every two weeks to a month or something like that if I can get on a regular picture schedule. I'm currently on day 34 of having plants in the tank. I started with two plants: Wisteria and Argentine Sword and have gotten a good few since then. The list now comes out to:

Wisteria (Hygrophilia difformis)
Argentine Sword (Echinodorus argentinensis)
Tropica fern (Microsorum pteropus)
Broad leaf sagittaria (Sagittaria platyphylla)
Anacharis (Egeria densa)
Dwarf hairgrass (Eleocharis acicularis)
Red wendtii (Cryptocoryne wendtii)
As well as two mystery plants that came in a bunch

And here's my current live stock list:
(5) Harlequin Rasboras
(1) Dwarf frog
(1) Dwarf puffer
(1) Otocinclus catfish
(1) Male Betta, red
(2) Snails

And of course what would a journal be without pictures...
I'll start out with a progression of pictures from day 1 until now

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_4851.jpg
Day 1

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_4900.jpg
Day 2

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_4916.jpg
Day 6

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_5498.jpg
Day 10

SunSchein89
03-20-2010, 02:04 AM
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Day 12

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_5648.jpg
Day 16

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_5849.jpg
Day 23

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_5928.jpg
Day 30

SunSchein89
03-20-2010, 02:05 AM
http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_5973.jpg
And, today, Day 34

Today I bumped the school of harlequin rasboras up to 5 from 3, got a red betta, two snails, and my red wendtii. Still waiting on some java moss which has taken the store over two weeks now to get in :/

And now some pictures of the critters...

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_5524.jpg
This was only when there was three of the harlequins, but I like how the shot lined them all up and focused on the middle one.

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_5654.jpg
Here's a shot of them attempting to lay eggs I believe. This was even when my tank was still cycling and had really high nitrites, which was surprising to say the least. I never did find any eggs, though.

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_5949.jpg
Here's my Oto sucking on my dwarf frog if anyone remembers this picture from my last thread. Luckily, he did finally stop messing with him so I'm keeping him in there and might end up with another Oto. It's a good thing, cuse I could not catch that little bugger for the life of me with all those plants and my other tank sitting right above this one.

SunSchein89
03-20-2010, 02:05 AM
http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_5855.jpg
Head on shot of mah froggeh. Funny thing happened today. I was putting my new plant in and trimming up and moving some others around. First off, this frog has no fear; he was right by my hand pretty much the entire time and while I was trying to put one of my plants back in the gravel he just wouldn't budge so I tried to push him a little. The frog just latches on to my finger and starts humping it or something lol. I don't know exactly what was going on, but there was definitely some kind of pressure being applied. He was at least hugging me or something. It was actuaully really funny looking, and feeling :x

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_5526-1.jpg
Side shot of my puffer. I really like this guy, he seems to have such a personality and watching his eyes move around is pretty cool too. He seems to have taken a liking to messing with my snails I just got today which would probably explain where my other little one I got awhile back ended up.

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_5534.jpg
And one of him suckin up a blood worm.

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_5969.jpg
My new betta :). These guys are so cool looking. I have a blue one in my 20 gal. community above this tank. I know the puffers are little nippers, so I'm definitely keeping an eye on the two of them. The puffer hasn't bothered anything except for the snails I saw him picking at today, so they're on a probationary period. If nipping starts, one of them is finding a new home.

SunSchein89
03-20-2010, 02:06 AM
That about covers my plants and animals for now. I'll just throw in a few more random pictures I can pick out. The rest should just be updates of plant progression or any new livestock I get from here on out.


http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_5974.jpg
Not sure if you can see it with the picture being this small, but my dwarf hairgrass is finally sprouting up little hairs off of the main part! This is the second one poking out of the gravel I've found so far. I'm hoping it'll eventually carpet most of the bottom, but I'm not expecting any miracles either. Almost forgot a picture of a snail, so he's on here too. Of course he's on his side after my puffer knocked him over.

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_5925.jpg
First picture I got of my tropica fern sprouting some new roots from its leaves. It's actually done this on every leaf now and a couple have sprouted their own leaves out from the same area, so I'm pretty excited to see how that'll turn out.

Nothing else too exciting I can find at the moment, so I'll just leave it as is. Thanks to anyone that looks/comments, it's appreciated. I know a 10 gallon planted tank with low/moderate lighting isn't the most groundbreaking thing put on this site lol, but hey it's mine and I like it.

SunSchein89
03-30-2010, 11:46 PM
Well it's been 11 days since I last posted, figured it's time for a small update. I started uploading my photobucket pictures at 2x the size now too.

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_6055.jpg
Day 38

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_6418.jpg
Day 45 (today)
Did a little trimming and cut and moved one of my wisteria stems that had some roots coming out of it. Eventually I want most of the plants to be spread out to look more natural and not just each plant has its own spot. I'm still constantly fishing out duck weed. I swear that stuff grows like a weed or something :rolleyes:.

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_6420.jpg
And so you can get an idea of how far my tropica fern is getting. This leaf seems to be the furthest along, but a lot of them look similar to this.

And that's about it for now... I'll keep the pictures coming as I take'em.

Z Fish Man
03-30-2010, 11:51 PM
It's looking very nice. I'm surprised the dwarf puffer and beta and getting along. pretty cool to have them both in one tank

SunSchein89
03-31-2010, 12:38 AM
It's looking very nice. I'm surprised the dwarf puffer and beta and getting along. pretty cool to have them both in one tank

Yeah I'm pretty surprised too, actually. I was almost counting on having to rehome one of them, but everyone is getting along fine in the tank. I'm still keeping a good eye on them, though, in case the puffer decides to get nippy as he gets bigger. The tank isn't really crowded at all and there's plenty of cover from the plants, so that might have something to do with it.

SunSchein89
04-21-2010, 04:17 AM
Ok, time for another update thumbs2: .

I've since gotten a nice little clump of java moss from a reputable seller on aquabid.com. Very happy with the value for the money ($6.99 including shipping), especially since I couldn't find the stuff anywhere close to me. Ironically, a day or so after I got the moss in the mail, the store I was waiting for a few weeks to get the stuff from got in several cups of java moss for sale in their plant tank :rolleyes:. Umm... other updates: it's now been two months and a day since I got my dwarf frog and dwarf puffer in the tank. No nipping as of yet either :ssmile: . And, I just found some possible eggs on my glass; pics will follow. Anyway, time for pictures...

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_7015.jpg
Day 51

SunSchein89
04-21-2010, 04:18 AM
http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_7147.jpg
Day 59

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_7470.jpg
Day 66 (today)

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_7461.jpg
And a nice pic of what looks like eggs from my harlequin rasboras.

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_7473.jpg
A little further growth of my dwarf hairgrass. At this rate, I might have a carpet in maybe two years...

SunSchein89
04-21-2010, 04:27 AM
http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_7474-1.jpg
Also, may be hard to see since the wisteria gets kind of whited out whenever I take a picture, but you can see the effects here of using two screw-in type bulbs instead of a long tube. My wisteria definitely grows towards one bulb or another and it doesn't take very long for them to grow and move towards the light source. This plant here in the middle has taken a nice curve. The one on the very right was replanted and since has straightened itself out since it got planted directly under the light.


Well, that's about it for now, thanks for lookin' :22: .

SunSchein89
04-25-2010, 06:55 AM
On to day 70 now. Found a new LFS about a 20-25 min drive from the house and picked up a few things. Also did a good amount of trimming and moving a few pieces, though it's not really noticeable.

Turns out those eggs in the last post were most likely snail eggs that either hatched or got eaten. Probably won't know for awhile. I was thinking of getting rid of the anacharis now too and replacing it with something else bushy. I can't seem to get it back to how I had it in the beginning covering the heater it just keeps growing out the top and I'm getting kind of sick of it. Now that I have a better source of plants, I'll try to get something better for that spot. I also found some red/purple plants that I might get for the 20 gal. when I convert it

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_7493.jpg
Day 70

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_7494.jpg
Picture of part of my new lucens plant (Cryptocoryne x willisii "lucens"). Guess I didn't take a good overall picture of them and the lights are already off now. I split the plant up into four or five pieces and spread them out behind my wood piece. I ended up ditching the broad leaf sagittaria that never did too well to put this in its place.

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_7501.jpg
Picked up two of these little banana plants too. Nothing special, just something different to look at. My duck weed has somehow almost entirely gone away, I didn't think that was possible.

Shootamonkey2
04-25-2010, 07:26 AM
Seems bigger than 10G...

SunSchein89
04-25-2010, 12:46 PM
Seems bigger than 10G...

Ha, yeah, since the picture is the same size as most others on here, it's hard to compare it to something else sometimes. Plus, I think how the tank is set up with all of the plants and whatnot helps to create the illusion, but it's definitely a 10 gal; if you took this picture on your screen and enlarged it by like 6 times you would have the dimensions of the tank probably lol.

HeatherH
04-25-2010, 05:37 PM
Looks fantastic SunSchein. thumbs2:

I read through your progression and got to the part of your frog "humping" your finger and I had a good laugh. :hmm3grin2orange:

I hope my tank looks this good when I get it planted-still waiting on my big box of plants...All I have so far is a nice hunk of hornwort that has grown quite a bit this week to my surprise and some java moss. Boring. lol

I want some dwarf frogs...will they try to eat my cherry shrimp?

sebastien
04-25-2010, 06:27 PM
Tank looks great!.. How important is CO2 for a planted tank..?? Will i get by with just a light..?

SunSchein89
04-25-2010, 08:18 PM
Looks fantastic SunSchein. thumbs2:

I read through your progression and got to the part of your frog "humping" your finger and I had a good laugh. :hmm3grin2orange:

I hope my tank looks this good when I get it planted-still waiting on my big box of plants...All I have so far is a nice hunk of hornwort that has grown quite a bit this week to my surprise and some java moss. Boring. lol

I want some dwarf frogs...will they try to eat my cherry shrimp?

My frog seems to leave everyone alone, but as you read took quite a liking to me lol. He just kinda hangs out and floats around in funny positions and I can hear him ribbiting when it gets closer to lights out. Very cool addition to a tank IMO. I'm not sure how he'll do with shrimp from experience, but mine has always been peaceful with my stock.


Tank looks great!.. How important is CO2 for a planted tank..?? Will i get by with just a light..?

I don't have any co2 on my tank. Most of these plants are relatively low light plants. I do dose 1 ml of flourish excel 3x a week, which is a form of carbon the plants can use that just stays in the water column. I'm not sure how my tank would have done without it since I have nothing to compare it to, but it definitely hasn't hurt anything. I have heard a few plants can "melt" from dosing excel, but haven't experienced it myself.

As long as you get the right spectrum lighting and enough wattage to handle the kind of plants you want to get you should be fine. Most common plants you'll find in stores will be good with this kind of lighting, but watch out for ones that are not truly aquatic too.

SunSchein89
05-19-2010, 06:11 PM
Well it's hard for me to believe that this tank has been up and running for over 3 months now, but low and behold it has. Picked up some new additions at the LFS I had mentioned previously yesterday and I also just got a big thing of hornwort in the mail. I also threw out a good few plants I was getting tired of.

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_7992.jpg
Day 90

You can see the hornwort in the back left that replaced my anacharis (finally... I was getting really sick of that stuff); the hornwort had a few brown spots here and there when I took it out as well as a good few dead and loose needles that cluttered up the tank, but overall, I'm happy with how it turned out. Hopefully it will green up again soon.

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_8065.jpg
Day94

Now in this one you can see my two new plants in the background. They replaced the two "mystery plants" I had in the back, as well as the Argentine sword I had in a few spots around the tank that never really grew much. So I now have an entirely new background to the tank and am liking the look so far, I just have to see if it will grow nicely and stay green for me. I also took out the little java fern babies I had in my moss that I was contemplating growing out, but changed my mind. Taking a second look at these two pictures, I can already see a good amount of growth on the hornwort, they weren't kidding when they said it grows fast.

And here's some closeups of the two new plants...

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_8091.jpg

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_8079.jpg

That's it for now, be back with more updates in the near future.

aquariums+me=happy
05-19-2010, 06:26 PM
You make a 10 gal. look like a deluxe 30, nice job.

I also have some argentine sword and when i got it was told it was an annual? Does this mean I will have to replace it or will it repopulate by root division?

rich311k
05-19-2010, 06:39 PM
Nice looking tank.

SunSchein89
05-19-2010, 06:40 PM
You make a 10 gal. look like a deluxe 30, nice job.

I also have some argentine sword and when i got it was told it was an annual? Does this mean I will have to replace it or will it repopulate by root division?

It should grow out on its own from what I can tell, I did get a few new leaves that grew out, but they never really got big or looked healthy for too long. Strangely enough, plant geek nor the book I have on plants has anything about the Argentine sword. One site I found here (http://www.fishlore.com/Plants-ArgentineSword.htm), says that they may not grow well in hard water, which I know my water definitely is. None of the sword/echinodorus type species I've tried in my tank so far have worked that well, so I'm just staying away from them now. I honestly don't have the height to make them work in the long run, anyway.

SunSchein89
05-19-2010, 06:45 PM
Nice looking tank.

Thanks :22: . I wish I could figure out how to take pictures like yours (blush) . Any plant in my tank that isn't dark green gets washed out by the light and you can't see many of the subtle color changes and details that I get to see in person. I honestly think the tank would look twice as good if I could figure out how to get these pictures to turn out better.

Ashley
05-19-2010, 09:50 PM
what kinds of puffer is that? It's really cute!

SunSchein89
05-19-2010, 10:08 PM
what kinds of puffer is that? It's really cute!

It's a dwarf puffer (aka: Pygmy Puffer, Indian Puffer, Pea Puffer, Malabar Puffer). They max out at about 1" in length and it's completely freshwater unlike most other puffers you'll find out there. They can be pretty aggressive, though, and most people recommend to keep them in species only tanks. They're notorious for their nipping and me being able to keep mine with a betta has been pretty surprising to say the least. Heavily planted tanks help keep their aggression down, even among their own species, since their line of sight gets broken up more. I've had him in this tank for over two months now with no problems, but I still check constantly for nipped fins. He's definitely one of my favorites. Shh... don't tell my other fish :wink:

Lab_Rat
05-20-2010, 12:29 AM
Tank looks good, nice growth on the plants.

AmyLynn
05-20-2010, 02:30 AM
Tank is looking great!

SunSchein89
05-25-2010, 12:24 AM
Nothing special to add really. Just took a picture today and noticed I happened to do it right on day number 100. Figured it may be worth posting. Also, if anyone hasn't seen my other thread asking what my two new plants are, if you have any idea please do tell. I'll post day 94 again here so you can see the new growth in a week without having to go back to the last page. I've already trimmed my hornwort at least three times or so, that stuff grows like no other.

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_8065.jpg
Day 94 (again)

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/fish%20tank/IMG_8331.jpg
Day 100 (today)

SunSchein89
05-30-2010, 08:23 AM
Well, this is big news in my book, but probably not so much in yours :lol:. I finally figured out how to tweak the settings on the camera to get my pictures as close to realistic as I think the camera will allow.

Oh, and I also officially converted my 20 gallon tank to a planted tank today, so here is the link to my new journal for that as well if you're interested...
SunSchein89's 20 gal. (now planted) journal (http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aquariumforum/showthread.php?t=64292)

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/10%20gallon%20planted/IMG_8666.jpg
Day 104. So here is the picture of my tank as you normally would have seen it in my updates.

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/10%20gallon%20planted/IMG_8648.jpg
And now, the more realistic-looking, not-washed-out version thumbs2: . This is about as realistic to what I see as I could get it. There may be a few more settings I could mess with that I'm not aware of, but this is a major improvement compared to what my other pictures look like.

It's still very slightly washed out at the immediate top of the water level and the color isn't exactly dead on to what I'm seeing, but it's pretty damn close. Anyway, I'm happy I finally figured this stuff out lol. I'll have to try tweaking a few more things on the next camera shoot to see if I can get some actual life-like pictures.

Edit: and I just realized that if you click on the picture to enlarge it, it looks a lot clearer than it does in the thread. It doesn't even get noticeably bigger, but the clarity improves. I'd recommend clicking on any of the pictures you want to get a clearer look at.

Lady Hobbs
05-30-2010, 11:45 AM
Tank is coming along great. Guess that otto is happy to now have plants to suck on rather than the frog. LOL

SunSchein89
07-01-2010, 10:06 AM
Not really much to report at this point. The tank kind of reached a climax and there's not much more I can do to it. I did, however, move the betta out of the tank and into my 20 gal. My puffer finally started getting aggressive and was nipping at him; knew it was too good to be true :smad:. Keeping an eye on the harlequins, but they seem to be avoiding him well enough for now.

Anyway, today I did a lot of trimming to let some of the plants grow and fill out the tank better, especially with my hornwort which likes to get brown anywhere that's not on the surface. My other mystery plant is taking off just as well and I think I may replace the hornwort entirely with it, I think it looks nicer anyway.

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/10%20gallon%20planted/IMG_9360.jpg
Day 136

Doesn't look so pretty right now and I didn't have time to mess with the camera settings again, so the next update will probably be when it fills out and I have some time to take some better pictures again thumbs2:

SunSchein89
07-18-2010, 06:27 AM
Gettin some pictures on the 20 gal., so I snapped a few of the 10 while I was at it.

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/10%20gallon%20planted/IMG_9360.jpg
Day 136 again (from last page for your convenience)

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/10%20gallon%20planted/IMG_9761.jpg
Day 154

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/10%20gallon%20planted/IMG_9762.jpg
And just a random shot of the froggy and an oto

I'm thinking of getting rid of that plant in the back right and replacing it with some hygrophilia compacta. It's done really well in my 5.5 betta tank and I think it would look good in that back corner. The plant that is there now hasn't really grown at all. I think it's not a true aquatic and is going to rot eventually. Never could get a positive ID on it.

SunSchein89
07-25-2010, 11:57 PM
Finally replaced that plant in the back right. It never really grew at all and just slowly started to die off and get algae on it. I'm thinking it wasn't aquatic. Anyway, I got another hygrophilia compacta to put in it's place, so I'll see how that grows out.

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/10%20gallon%20planted/IMG_9818.jpg
Day 161

Some other random shots...

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/10%20gallon%20planted/IMG_9825.jpg
Got a nice one of one of my harlequin rasboras

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/10%20gallon%20planted/IMG_9819.jpg
Close up on one of the new compacta stems

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/10%20gallon%20planted/IMG_9831.jpg
Caught my froggy in a funny pose, he always sits in the weirdest positions. It's kind of out of focus :/, but I still found it amusing.

SunSchein89
08-03-2010, 03:58 AM
Small update...

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/10%20gallon%20planted/IMG_9910.jpg
Day 170

Added a crypt plant today. It's an "asian crypt" from petco. I'll have to ID it then, shouldn't be too hard. My compacta is growing nicely as well; all green growth on new and old leaves. Sorry the picture's not so great, didn't feel like scrubbing down the front glass. Here's the crypt up close...

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/10%20gallon%20planted/IMG_9911.jpg

FinalJenemba
08-03-2010, 06:05 AM
Very nice tank! Looks great. Can I ask what your using for bulbs?

SunSchein89
08-03-2010, 06:13 AM
Very nice tank! Looks great. Can I ask what your using for bulbs?

I'm just using two 10 watt screw-in compact fluorescent bulbs that are sold in the aquarium section of walmart. They're made be GE, I believe, and go for about $5 a piece. It doesn't say their Kelvin rating on the packaging, but they're 6700K. If you go to Lowe's/Home Depot, you can find the same kind of cheap compact fluorescent bulbs. Probably cheaper in bulk at the hardware stores. I just bought a 4 pack of 23 watt 6500K bulbs at Lowe's for $12 the other day for my new frog tank.

Edit: Thinking twice now, I'm almost tempted to use the two spare bulbs I got and up my lighting to 46 watts to give me a lot more options. I'm already running DIY co2 on my other tank and have plenty of excel, so it wouldn't be too hard to convert it to a high light setup.

SunSchein89
08-06-2010, 02:58 AM
http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/10%20gallon%20planted/IMG_0024.jpg
Day 173... god that number seems big.

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/10%20gallon%20planted/IMG_0026.jpg
My oto playing dead :lol:... or just sucking up some algae on his side whichever you prefer

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt160/sunschein89/10%20gallon%20planted/IMG_0030.jpg
And a shot of all my harlequin rasboras together

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Not a whole lot to update, just took a picture along with all the others I was taking today. uprooted most of the hornwort and now I'm just letting it float. I don't really want a lot of it in my tank, but I still kind of like to have some on hand. Still waiting for the H. compacta to grow out, but they're truckin' along at a good pace. I'm just getting impatient, I think.

FinalJenemba
08-06-2010, 03:48 AM
I'm just using two 10 watt screw-in compact fluorescent bulbs that are sold in the aquarium section of walmart. They're made be GE, I believe, and go for about $5 a piece. It doesn't say their Kelvin rating on the packaging, but they're 6700K.

Thanks! I picked up a couple of those. I was using a pair of 15w spiral cfl's, but they where too bright. The fish where always hiding in the shade and I had a big algae problem. These 10w are gonna be better I think, the fish are coming out already and I think the algae will get better.

SunSchein89
09-22-2010, 07:44 AM
Well it's been awhile since I've updated the 10 or 20 journal, so I took a few minutes to do it tonight.

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day 195

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day 221

Obviously there's been a lot of trimming going on. I've had a tough little bout of black beard algae. Very annoying stuff. I've been dosing ~5 ml of excel pretty much every day/every other day (whenever I remember really) to try to combat it, as well as just ditching anything that's completely taken over by it. I think the left side of the tank is still missing something... have to figure out what to put there.

Probably the most obvious thing I did was ditch all the moss and scrub down the wood. Been awhile since I've even seen the wood in the tank. Got rid of any remaining pieces of wisteria now, too. And, thanks to AmyLynn :19: , I got a few new plants in the tank to play around with.

Sadly, both my dwarf puffer and my dwarf African frog have gone MIA within a few days of each other (at least of me noticing). No trace of them anywhere. The puffer could have definitely died and gotten picked apart without me noticing, but I would at least think the frog I would have seen some remnants of. I'm thinking he may have jumped out of the tank towards the back and behind the stand where I can't really see :scry: . So, down to 5 rasboras and 3 otos. Thinking of getting some cherry shrimp now.

SunSchein89
10-09-2010, 03:10 AM
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Day 236
Got a some new plants today along with...

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Some cherry shrimp thumbs2:

s72450
10-09-2010, 01:13 PM
This journal is amazing! I really have had no luck when it comes to planting tanks but I've always wanted one. I'm shocked you grew this in gravel, is there a layer of anything else underneath it?

Also, I see that you get some of your plants at PetCo, how do those do? That's really the only option I have for plants.

What sort of hood do you have? Just a standard one for a 10 gallon like you see in the kits at WalMart?

And one more quick question, did you ever have any problems between your betta and the rasporas? I would like to do a similar set up this winter.

Australian natives
10-09-2010, 01:52 PM
great tank man keep it up.

SunSchein89
10-09-2010, 05:23 PM
This journal is amazing! I really have had no luck when it comes to planting tanks but I've always wanted one. I'm shocked you grew this in gravel, is there a layer of anything else underneath it?
Nope, it's strictly gravel. It is all activ-flora gravel, which is made for planted tanks. I think I have the exact specs on it somewhere in this thread.

Also, I see that you get some of your plants at PetCo, how do those do? That's really the only option I have for plants.
They actually do fairly well if you know what you're looking for. A lot of the plants there aren't truly aquatic, so make sure you get the right ones. They can't really order anything, either, which kind of sucks. They just get in whatever they get.

What sort of hood do you have? Just a standard one for a 10 gallon like you see in the kits at WalMart?
Yep, just a standard piece-o-crap plastic hood. Got it from walmart by itself. It holds two of their screw-in CFLs right from their aquarium section.

And one more quick question, did you ever have any problems between your betta and the rasporas? I would like to do a similar set up this winter.
I did have a few problems with the bettas. My original blue one I had to rehome because it got aggressive with everything in the tank after a few months of no problems. Then the red one I had to rehome because my dwarf puffer started to nip at his fins. He now does fine in my 20 gallon tank. I do see him chase a fish now and then, but no damage is done and there's so many places to hide in there to boot. Bettas can really be hit or miss in community tanks.


Thanks again for the comments everyone :22:

s72450
10-10-2010, 12:18 AM
Well I know what I'll be doing this winter.

I saw on the other thread that you work at PetCo, could you recommend any of the plants? I was never quiet sure what was and was not aquatic. Also, there are three different sizes of plants at my local PetCo, what size did you get for the 10 gallon?

SunSchein89
10-10-2010, 04:04 PM
If you're talking about the tubes, I'd probably go for the medium sized ones. Saves you some money and allows you time for the plants to grow out kind of bushy, rather than already sitting at the top all skinny. A lot of times they'll have a buy 2 get 1 free thing going on. They have a decent selection in the plant tank as well if you guys have one there. Just make sure it's in half decent shape because I don't think they really have the lighting to keep them alive.

Things to avoid off the top of my head:
-kyoto/mondo grass
-white ribbon
-any bamboo
-peacock fern
-borneo fern
-purple waffle
-any aquatic plant combo

For a 10 gallon tank, you'll also want to avoid swords just because of how big they get; they are aquatic plants, though.

Some things that work well:
-hygrophilia compacta
-hygrophilia difformis; water weed; water wisteria
-any anubias... they normally don't say the species, anyway
-java/tropica fern
-java moss... you'll normally find this attached to little floating balls or rocks, sometimes with an anubias attached as well, never tells you what the moss is, though
-egeria densa; anacharis
-any of the swords if your tank is big enough
-the tall, skinny plants with the pink-ish undersides... forget the exact names of them... one was IDed in my 20 journal. There's actually two types that look like this. You can see them both in my 20 journal as well.

That's all I can think of right now... I may be missing one or two in there yet. Just let me know if there are any you have specific questions about. Plantgeek.net is a good resource if you have a phone with internet on it while you're out shopping or even to look it up once you get home

Jeddi
10-10-2010, 04:07 PM
I wouldn't rule out swords automatically. A healthy amazon sword can look very nice in a 10g :22:

SunSchein89
10-11-2010, 05:57 PM
Yeah, I guess an Amazon would work. I was always under the impression they got big, but I have one in my 20 gallon high that just bushed out; never really grew all that tall. Looking at it now, it probably would fit snugly in my 10, even if it would take up like half of the tank.

My Argentine on the other hand is trying to grow out of the top. It's already poked a few leaves out the back on me. I did try some swords in my 10 before, but I don't think I had enough lighting or something. They never did that great.

mermaidwannabe
10-11-2010, 06:48 PM
I have a feeling some of your little critters helped you get rid of your duckweed. Some fish and other creatures do eat it, I believe. Very nice pics.

sallywally
12-07-2010, 04:31 AM
It's been a pleasure following your progress.

SunSchein89
01-17-2011, 09:01 PM
It's been a pleasure following your progress.

A little delayed on my part, but thank you :lol:. Kind of gave up on keeping up with the pictures since I stopped dosing ferts, haven't added much of anything new lately, my ex-girlfriend moved out with her nice camera which left me with my crappy phone camera, and my extra spending money was being dumped into the herp side of the hobby for awhile.

Buuuut, my mom just got herself a new point and shoot that can at least take better pictures than my phone, so I'll be updating all of my journals relatively soon whenever I can get those pictures over to my computer.

SunSchein89
03-23-2011, 02:38 AM
Long, long, LONG overdue for some pictures... just did some calculating and the tank is now on day 401! :ssuprised: No idea where all that time went...

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Here's the whole tank. Just did a little bit of trimming. Going through the journal, I've noticed my tank has changed it's appearance pretty drastically over the past year. Went from very jungly, lots of thin leaved type plants, to more open with broad leaf type stuff. One thing I noticed is my red wendtii crypt finally looks like it's supposed to lol. Annnnd, I should've taken a before picture just now, but oh well. My moss grew so much it just turned into a big bush in the back right corner; could barely see the wood again. So I just spread it up and out and I nearly have a complete unintentional moss wall now :19:

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And I got a nice shot of some of my cherry shrimp. Appears to be 3 generations together there; not sure how many times they've spawned now, but there's quite a few more in there than I remember.

Rue
03-23-2011, 01:36 PM
It looks very nice. Shrimp look happy too.

Just a question: Are the plants supposed to be yellowish? Or are you a bit low in nitrogen?

SunSchein89
03-23-2011, 04:37 PM
Probably a combination of things is causing the yellow look on most of the leaves. One most likely is a nutrient deficiency since I haven't dosed ferts in quite a long time. Although, I have started experimenting with small doses again to hopefully at least make all the plants look full and green without having to trim the things what seemed like every few hours before.

The second is once again my battle with the crappy point and shoot camera to capture the light correctly on my tanks.

And, a lot of the tops of the compacta, which is the main broad leaf plant you see in there, have been cut and replanted once they reach the surface, and they kind of turn a yellowish color after sitting so close to the light/surface of the water for so long.

SunSchein89
06-28-2011, 06:52 AM
Haven't updated in awhile. Just took a few pictures today...

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Full tank shot

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Ramshorn snail is gettin' pretty big :ssmile:

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Had to add the cherry shrimp of course

Fishkeeper
03-16-2012, 02:27 AM
I saw two zebra danios in the day 401 pic!