MAJOR disaster within 12 hours, guaranteed

[cocoa_pleco]

I was at a LFS, and some guy, about 20, must have ALOT of money. He bought 2 5g pails of conditioner, and a fluval FX2 or whatever filter for 400$, and a 55g tank. He asked if he could put in alot of goldfish in today, and the worker said YES, just let the filter run for 15 minutes. He bought 8 feeder goldfish. I wanted to say something, but the guy was a little rough with the workers so i thought just shut up

[A340]

I'll put my money on that everything will work out fine. For some reason, that's just the way it is, some people have all the luck.

Also, if you use products like Seachem's Stability, you can add fish the same day and you won't have a problem.

[cocoa_pleco]

all he bought was the tank, filter, heater, substrate, and fish.

Medium sized feeders put alot of bio-load.

[A340]

What else do you really need? There's no question about the bioload they'll put on it, but like I said, my money says he'll have luck.

[cocoa_pleco]

i doubt it. The tanks not even cycled. having all those feeders in a tank within 20 minutes= disaster

[Drumachine09]

i doubt it. The tanks not even cycled. having all those feeders in a tank within 20 minutes= disaster

No, 20 minutes is not enough time for them to die. Look at people who put bettas or goldfish in a bowl and rarley(if ever) do WCs.

[Lady Hobbs]

He is going to use the feeders to cycle his tank. Sounds to me like he knows what he's doing. Many still use the feeders for cycling.

[A340]

I've added fish the same day with new tanks and have never had a problem. I always use the conditioner that I mentioned above and it works like a charm.

Not once have I ever used any form of ammonia, some times I'll use a tap water conditioner, condition the water for about a week and add the fish, not losing one.

Or as Lady Hobbs said, maybe he's cycling the tank with the feeders.

[cocoa_pleco]

The bad part was he knew SQUAT about fish, and he probably has 0 idea what ammonia is and all that.

[A340]

The bad part was he knew SQUAT about fish, and he probably has 0 idea what ammonia is and all that.
And for that very reason I'd put my money on him having success. Sounds strange, you can call it Murphy's Law if you want. But some people just don't think about anything and it all works out for them.

[cocoa_pleco]

lol, that happened to me once. Along time ago, when i first had my first 10g, it got WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY overcrowded, so i got a 33g, and plopped the fish in right away. The next day, i went to get a filter to add, and the worker said what size tank, how longs it running, etc. and i said overnight, and she just about flipped. I thought, well, the equipments running fine, so what the hecks wrong?

I never knew about cycling then, and the only fish i lost was a ropefish to ick

[A340]

lol, that happened to me once. Along time ago, when i first had my first 10g, it got WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY overcrowded, so i got a 33g, and plopped the fish in right away. The next day, i went to get a filter to add, and the worker said what size tank, how longs it running, etc. and i said overnight, and she just about flipped. I thought, well, the equipments running fine, so what the hecks wrong?

I never knew about cycling then, and the only fish i lost was a ropefish to ick
A cousin of mine has a tank, never cleans the filter and only changes the water when it starts to smell like an old pair of socks. The water is murky and green, but go figure, the same fish have been in there for a good 2 years now.

Murphy's Law I tells ya, Murphy's Law .... :hmm3grin2orange:

[Drumachine09]

Murphy's Law I tells ya, Murphy's Law .... :hmm3grin2orange:


Aint that the truth.

[801]

when i was a kid we had a 10g tank that was usually just filled with goldfish, and maybe an occasional bala shark. we werent really experts in the fine art of aquatics, and goldfish were "disposable pets" so it wasnt a really big deal. if one died, it was only a couple of pennies for another. but we did take care of the tank for the most part. water changes when it was dirty, change the charcoal cartridges when they got full of gunk, and kept it heated so the water wasnt cold. ha, we had no idea goldfish were coldwater dwellers. as you can guess the tank was always overstocked. 5-8 (maybe even a dozen) two- or three-inch fish didnt look like it was crowded. we thought that was a good number too keep as they all seemed happy. and if you asked me what a master test kit was, you'd get a blank stare in return. haha, and if you told my dad that one would cost $20+, theres no way one would find its way into our house. the only thing we added to the tank was a few drops of dechlorinator and stress coat solution. but overall we had pretty good luck with the tank.

[Willyleigh]

A neighbour of ours keeps a goldfish in a tiny bowl and occasionaly does 100% water changes with cold water directly out of the tap, no conditioner. Also the goldfish we had we kept in a bowl with just an aerator and occasionally did 100% changes and washed the gravel in HOT water, it lived for years. Goldfish are very hardy fish, I had a woman at the LFS that I work at bring some water for testing with 4ppm Ammonia and off the scale nitrites after adding 8 goldfish directly to a 15gal tank, they lived a week in this water before they all died and even after a 90% change the nitrites were off the scale.

Having said that it is not ideal to do it like he did.