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chester82006
02-17-2010, 02:41 AM
I've had my 75 gallon african tank going for a few months now and things have gone smoothly until this past week. I started out with 5-6 fish... yellow labs, a pair of acei, and a blue cobolt. I added 2 more at a time every week after that and now have about 15 cichlids in there including zebra and more yellow labs. The aggression seems to have been balancing out well.

Now this is where my scary problem begins: Within the last week I had put 2 zebras in there that my LFS had gotten at a "good price", whatever that means. They looked healthy so I took them. A few days later one of the zebras looked paralyzed and like it may have gotten attacked? It was swimming up with it's head straining like it was bobbing for air and the rest of it's body motionless. It had some weird looking marks on his body too. I right away put it in a fry sanctuary within the tank (since I have no hospital tanks) and tried to help it out. By the next morning he was dead. Now my acei pair are looking SO rough, red open wounds, fins diminishing fast, scales missing, white stuff around their mouth. Their skin kind of looks like what a pleco's skin would end up like if there was too much salt in the tank. They're not going to last long, and I'm at a loss to figuring out what can make this situation better. My blue cobalt also just lays at the bottom hiding with his left fin looking immobilized, around the bottom of his mouth I see discolored looking things. He was recently just spunky, and so healthy. I also have one yellow lab who is a phenomenal runt who has fit in with the gang. He never grew, and is still just about an inch who swam happily and ate with one eye until yesterday. I now see red sores on his right side.

The rest of the inhabitants are doing alright for now, I'm just worried whatever this is will spread rapidly. I definitely need some advice. Thanks so much :help: :22:


:o Sorry forgot to add:

Ammonia: 0 ppm
Nitrates: between 20 and 40 which is higher than usual :\
Nitrite: 0 ppm
pH: 8.2

Sarkazmo
02-17-2010, 03:02 AM
I'd an immediate small water change to lower the trates a little but not too much of a WC to be a shock.... maybe like 10-15%. So like a 10G change.

Sounds likely to either be bacterial or viral in nature and it sounds like it's progressing at a rapid rate! You need a couple broad based products like tetracycline and Erythromycin. Here's the kind of stuff I'm talking about. ([Only Registered Users Can See Links.])

I'd normally advise using Melafix and Pimafix and if you have them now, do use them after the WC, but this sounds like a severe case and needs really strong medicine fast.

You need to get the above meds (from the link) ASAP! If you can get them tonight, get them tonight.

Good luck and let us know how things are going.

Sark

chester82006
02-17-2010, 11:37 PM
I appreciate the help, and link Sark. This is getting to be really bad... both of my acei are now dead. The blue cobolt is looking like it's on it's death bed... and now two other fish are getting increasingly sick, fast. I saw one of them trying to pass a really long completely white string. Their mouths look like they're swelling, and it's like something is eating away at their bodies around their head and have red gills.

I haven't ordered the meds yet because I'm confused at to which ones I need, am I supposed to spend $100?

:scry: This is all extremely discouraging.

rangur1
02-18-2010, 05:39 AM
sounds like injuries from fighting and body fungus or columnaris infecting open sores. please list numbers and species that remain in this tank. also, what amount of rock cover is in this tank?

Sarkazmo
02-18-2010, 01:03 PM
You don't need the $100 amounts of the medicine as that's for people with really HUGE tanks or tons of smaller tanks. I'd get a couple packs of both meds though. Don't you have a LFS that would have these meds or a Petco or something like that you could get them at to save time?

Good luck.

Sark

Mith
02-27-2010, 02:10 AM
15 fish is not many for a 75 cichlid tank. My 125 has probably over 50...

Do you have a quarentine tank? If you have to use meds, quarantining them in a smaller tank is much easier than medicating the whole tank.


If it's aggression, you can rearrange the tank to screw up their territories....

It's a hit and miss situation with those suckers and I have lost my fair share of them since the beginning.

sheamurai
02-27-2010, 02:16 AM
I don't have any hospital tank either, but with something that serious I'd get the sick fish out of there fast even if I had to use a bucket. Hopefully you have some spare equipment (filter, heater)...

Mith
02-28-2010, 07:52 AM
LOL...."75 Cichlid tank"


I MEANT 75 GALLON tank LOL

Gawd I'm a dork...

Sarkazmo
02-28-2010, 10:30 AM
No reply in 10 days so I'm guessing things did not get better...

Sark