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Lady Hobbs
04-16-2007, 11:16 PM
Did the college drop the ball or what! I can't imagine a slaying on campus, the gunman is on the loose, no one knows who he is or where he went and nothing is done to lock down all the buildings on site. Doing so would have prevented 30 more from being killed and how many wounded?

They had 2 hours to either evacuate the compass or lock it down. This will cause a ton of stink.....as it should. Another tragic ending to another senseless shooting.

unleashed
04-16-2007, 11:18 PM
Did the college drop the ball or what! I can't imagine a slaying on campus, the gunman is on the loose, no one knows who he is or where he went and nothing is done to lock down all the buildings on site. Doing so would have prevented 30 more from being killed and how many wounded?

They had 2 hours to either evacuate the compass or lock it down. This will cause a ton of stink.....as it should. Another tragic ending to another senseless shooting.
I know. Its on the news here. Terrible isn't it?

Rue
04-16-2007, 11:22 PM
Has it been confirmed that there was just the one gunman?

I dunno...as tragic as these types of 'random' shootings are...

...you can't protect against nutbars...:(

Lady Hobbs
04-16-2007, 11:25 PM
You sure can't but the second shooting was 2 hours after the first. I find it amazing that any of the buildings on campus were not on lock down.

Rue
04-16-2007, 11:43 PM
Well...if Scenario 1 is correct:

The first shooter killed one person in a domestic dispute.

No reason to expect him to stick around or kill anyone else, so why invoke a lockdown?

And if it was an isolated incident...and they had a lockdown...imagine the uproar THAT would have caused.

This is a no-win situation for the authorities.

No point speculating until more facts are released...

Chrona
04-17-2007, 01:19 AM
There should have been a lockdown regardless of what the situation was, if a person got killed by a gun. I mean, they close down schools for 2 inches of snow, evacuate a whole building because of a kid smoking a cigarette in a bathroom, but they don't lock down when someone gets shot and killed?

On a side note, this really hits home for me because I lived in Blacksburg for about 5 years. My dad used to teach there.

Yet another clear case of why guns should be banned in America. When it was put into the Constitution, they had militias protecting against an imposing government in mind, not nutjobs shooting people for a domestic dispute, or little kids getting shot up by Uzi's in a drive-by. The lobbyists for the NRA should all go to hell. Grrr......

Drumachine09
04-17-2007, 01:26 AM
Yet another clear case of why guns should be banned in America.


As if that would stop anything? Youve got to be kidding me. Totally banned? Not happening. Ever. Methanphetamine is illegal. Doesnt mean its not still hanging around practically everwhere. Think about it. Well just throw a lowball number. 25% of americans own guns. and 80% of the people who own guns own more than one. We are talking about MILLIONS of guns. How do you suggest we make sure we get ALL of them. The government can take my guns. Sure. Out of my cold dead hands.

cocoa_pleco
04-17-2007, 01:42 AM
Thats a bad idea.

if we were to get rid of everything bad in the world, we would have almost nothing. Cough medicine can get you high, gas can get you high, and x-acto knives can be a weapon. Guns are a good invention and are good for sport use. Even caffeine is a drug, yet billions of people consume it each day

Chrona
04-17-2007, 01:44 AM
I'll make a post in controversial, sec

Rue
04-17-2007, 10:36 PM
So it turns out there was only the one shooter.

Wonder what his story was...to bring it all to such a tragic end? I suppose we'll find out soon enough.

I still don't blame the authorities...no one could have predicted this...

...hindsight is just that...hindsight...

Drumachine09
04-17-2007, 10:38 PM
I heard that he was an chinese man, 24 years old, and had only been there a year on a student visa.

Rue
04-17-2007, 10:46 PM
Yes, but that tells us very little.

Chrona
04-17-2007, 10:48 PM
I heard that he was an chinese man, 24 years old, and had only been there a year on a student visa.

Korean I believe. Chinese people don't need guns. We are born with black belts.

Drumachine09
04-17-2007, 10:51 PM
Korean I believe. Chinese people don't need guns. We are born with black belts.

So THATS why china has such strict gun laws.


XD

cocoa_pleco
04-18-2007, 12:28 AM
they said he smoked his ex- girlfriend first. It was probably the cause

crackatinny
04-18-2007, 09:58 AM
I cannot understand, after the 1st killing, if they did not know where the gunman was, why they did not shut down the campus.

To anyone affected by this tradgety, please accept my condolences.

Chrona
04-18-2007, 01:42 PM
I cannot understand, after the 1st killing, if they did not know where the gunman was, why they did not shut down the campus.

To anyone affected by this tradgety, please accept my condolences.

Exactly. They shut down campus/schools all the time for snow. But people are killed and they cannot find the assailant and they just text message everyone? wtf.

sergo
04-18-2007, 01:54 PM
So THATS why china has such strict gun laws.


XDok this is off beat but i have to do this...
the reason why is because they can't make a good working copy of one. :)

Cichlid_Man
04-18-2007, 03:48 PM
It was truly a shame.
Crackatinny is right.
I live right here and know 4 families of the deceased.
The campus stayed open because they THOUGHT the first killing was a domestic thing.
Problem down here in Virginia is the law enforcement are nothing but a bunch of Barney Fife's, most of them forgetting to even bring the single bullet they are allowed.
Senseless deaths...
Now we'll all have to listen to Ms. Clinton rant on about gun laws.

Lady Hobbs
04-18-2007, 04:06 PM
They are claiming the gunman went back to his room and sat around for two hours before heading to the Norris building. And of course now they say knowing what they know now they would have closed the whole campus but they thought it a single incident in the beginning.

This is a school! You can not speculate where or why someone does something and simply because they did not know where he went should have been a deciding factor that the entire campus was shut down. At the very least campus guards could have been sent to the other buildings.......8 of which are armed at all times to stop people from entering...including him.

As one student put it "they close the school for snow but not for a gunman loose on campus."

SouthernGal0682
04-18-2007, 09:28 PM
I think its disgusting that people are capitalizing on this tragedy and causing fear at other schools by calling in bomb threats and shooting threats and such. I just got an email from the college where I am an alumni warning students that the president of the school received a call that simply said "there is going to be a shooting at ODU." I have heard of multiple cases on the news since the shooting at VT where schools have canceled classes or put everybody on alert because a bomb threat was called in. I just don't understand..isn't everybody scared and grieving enough, what possesses people to make the fear and pain even worse with threats that are PROBABLLY empty. uugghhhh Probablly just a bunch of slackers trying to get classes canceled.

Lady Hobbs
04-18-2007, 10:19 PM
Copy cats. Cops claim it happens after every terrible event. Why anyone would want to get on THAT band wagon I have no idea but this shooter wasn't the only crazy person out there. This brings out more of them.

Incredulous_Ed
04-19-2007, 08:21 PM
You know, If one other student had a gun there he could have shot down the gunman and save many lives.

Chrona
04-19-2007, 08:27 PM
You know, If one other student had a gun there he could have shot down the gunman and save many lives.

Not gonna get into this argument here, but gun-carrying students on campus would cause a lot more issues than it would prevent. The goal should be to back down, not to escalate everything. If students all carried guns for protection, then the new wave of crazy people would carry bombs.

Incredulous_Ed
04-19-2007, 08:35 PM
I'm not saying that everyone should carry guns, but if that guy knew that there might be some people with guns, then he might not have done in fear of being shot.

Chrona
04-19-2007, 08:36 PM
I'm not saying that everyone should carry guns, but if that guy knew that there might be some people with guns, then he might not have done in fear of being shot.

I saw the video he sent to NBC, so I doubt he would have cared much. He shot himself after all, and that takes more cajones than getting shot at.

Incredulous_Ed
04-19-2007, 08:57 PM
Was there a security guard in the building? I don't think so, but maybe there should have. I still think that the students should be able to carry guns on campus, but they would need extensive background checks before they could get a lisence to do so.