View Full Version : Ancistrus Claro

11-11-2009, 03:22 AM
Do these guys poop just as much as their cousins or does it's 2.8" max size really make a difference?

11-11-2009, 03:40 AM
smaller fish=less waste

11-11-2009, 05:39 AM
They poop as much as any other pleco the same size, less than larger species though.

11-11-2009, 07:39 AM
With a community like mine in a 20 long with live plants, do you think I'm pushing the limit with biomass?

live plants
7 cardinals
2m & 3f endlers
3 ghost shrimp
6 cory cochui
1 ancistrus claro

If not, where can I buy a claro in the sacramento, ca area? I'm also having a real hard time finding the cochui.

11-11-2009, 08:57 AM
The sustainable bioload depends on how well the tank is filtered and how often you do partials. Live plants may help, but unless you have a large number of fast-growing plants like duckweed or Najas I wouldn't depend on them too much. The endler's will certainly add fry to the load sooner or later, and some are likely to survive/grow. I'd upgrade to a 29 anyway.

11-11-2009, 03:08 PM
I should have included more info, sorry. I do have duckweed and they mulitiply like crazy. So far I've been doing 50% water changes every 5 to 7 days. I'm anxious to see the fry from the live bearers so my 2 boys can see it happen. After which I plan on just keeping males.

With all that said, do you think I'm okay or still taking a risk with the biomass?

btw, if I could I would have a 55 or more, but I just don't have the space.

11-11-2009, 03:12 PM
I thinking your tank is too small for the pleco.

I'd leave it out.

11-11-2009, 03:15 PM
I do not think that would be over stocked by very much. A little higher on the water change amounts and it should do just fine.

11-11-2009, 03:25 PM
Thanks so much for helping me on making the decision, I apreciate it. He/she is going back today.

11-11-2009, 04:16 PM
No, wait.

What do you think if I drop the pleco and replace it with either 6 dwarf cories or standard sized cories with regard to biomass.

11-11-2009, 04:18 PM
dont you already have 6 cory?

another 6 corys would be a bit much in a 20g

6 dwarf would be ok but they are gonna look really weird next to 6 normal sized corys

11-11-2009, 04:28 PM
I would not do another 6 but maybe 3 more of the kind you already have, that would be an active bottom of the tank.

11-12-2009, 06:28 AM
A 29 has the same length/width as a 20 long, but a bit more water volume since it's taller.

11-12-2009, 07:47 AM
Sorry, my signature is a bit misleading and I've updated it since. I actually have 7 cardinals, 5 endlers & 3 ghost shrimp right now.

I'm trying to make adjustments so I can have more Cardinals and a shoaling group of corys.

So here's my thought but making changes is not a problem.

11 Cardinals (1.25")
02 Endler males (1")
01 Ghost shrimp (1.5")
03 Cochu Cory males (1")
06 Cochu Cory females (1")

That's 23 fish @ about 26" in a 20 long with lots of duckweed, amazon swords, java ferns, anacharis and Java Moss. And I'm currently doing 50% water changes every 5 to 7 days.

BTW, my 20 long is on my dining room counter top below the cabinets on the wall. If I went any higher with a standard 20 or a 29, I would not be able to lift the lid to feed, let a lone maintain it.

11-14-2009, 04:16 PM
My signature below reflects my setup, could you please comment on my stock regarding compatibility, quantity and, if any, concerns.


11-14-2009, 04:18 PM
Your stocking looks fine. You could add a few more pygmy corys or cardinals.

Wouldnt add anything too big to it

11-14-2009, 04:42 PM
Thanks Rob.

How about adding 3 Otos?

11-14-2009, 04:43 PM
Yeah that would be fine.

They are really sensitive just to be aware.

I bought 5 last weekend and 2 of them died in QT - got them from a great LFS and dripped them for 3hrs too.
Just not a hardy fish.

11-14-2009, 05:07 PM
Thanks. Hmm, maybe I'll add 3 Cardinals instead. Either way, it looks like I'm done planning my 20 long... thanks again.