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[cocoa_pleco]

i'll make this question public, not a pm, for other peoples reference

I have the 10g with 10 lbs live rock, ugf, 2 powerheads, fluorescent light with blue actinic marine-glo bulb, heater, whisper filter, and condylactis anenome.

The next thing i want to buy is a black percula clown, which will go fine with the condylactis, but can cleaner shrimp and any other anenomes go with the condylactis? Condylactis sting other anenomes easily (i learnt the hard way), but are there any that will get along with him? at the place i bought the condy, they had him with other anenomes in a bare bottom 180g, but i didnt look at the other anenomes names.

Also, can hermit crabs go with the condy?

[Chrona]

Wait, did you just set up the tank? How much lighting do you have? Lighting for reefs should be an even mix of 10000k and actinic, not pure actinic. I would wait, since if that anemone dies, it's gonna take everything in the tank with it. I've read anenomes require a very mature tank with high lighting, and plenty of room since they grow big.

[crackatinny]

i'll make this question public, not a pm, for other peoples reference

I have the 10g with 10 lbs live rock, ugf, 2 powerheads, fluorescent light with blue actinic marine-glo bulb, heater, whisper filter, and condylactis anenome.

The next thing i want to buy is a black percula clown, which will go fine with the condylactis, but can cleaner shrimp and any other anenomes go with the condylactis? Condylactis sting other anenomes easily (i learnt the hard way), but are there any that will get along with him? at the place i bought the condy, they had him with other anenomes in a bare bottom 180g, but i didnt look at the other anenomes names.

Also, can hermit crabs go with the condy?

That setup is all wrong, a UGF, a whisper filter, you are a terrible fish keeper.


Sorry man, only kidding, could not help it after your qown3d thread:hmm3grin2orange:

[Chrona]

That setup is all wrong, a UGF, a whisper filter, you are a terrible fish keeper.


Sorry man, only kidding, could not help it after your qown3d thread:hmm3grin2orange:

It's pown3d! Get it right you crazy aussie! :hmm3grin2orange:

[cocoa_pleco]

The UGF's useless. I just like it because it holds my powerheads in place. When the suction cups give out (which is often), the substrate makes a blizzard.

The tank is cycled ( i did fishless ), and i do have the actinic and another fluorescent light i just added now. I found a used fluorescent for cheap that im using.

My old condy went through alot ( i knew nothing about salt) He went through

-incandescent bulb
-no drip acclimation
-no powerheads

I feel guilty about not having and knowing his proper setup, but he made it until i sold my salt tank. This ones doing great too

[2manyfish]

In a huge tank you could probably get away with another anemone. In a 10g no...
Hermit crabs should be fine though. Neither will bother the other.


Confession time: I hate suction cups!! This is what I want to send after them -> :jaws:
Never, ever stay stuck...darn things...I have 5 tanks and in each one the heater is just kinda floating in place there cause 'the you-know-what' suction cups have given out. I buy the powerheads that come with that hang on clip so I don't have to deal with those stupid suction cups!

[Chrona]

Perhaps silicone cups will stick better than rubber ones? lol.

[xoolooxunny]

I saw some neat powerheads at my new lfs (which is huge) and they had magnets to attach them, just like the glass cleaner magnets. you can move them around without getting your hands wet, but they were a little more expensive.

[cocoa_pleco]

Man, when i had my powerheads only on suction-cups, both fell in the middle of the night. Next morning, they had tons of crushed shell on the intake, and there was dust allover. What im worried about with only using suction cups is one day the powerhead output is going to flow up, making the light go BOOM. At least my UGF holds the powerheads in place.


i'll get 2 hermits. What about turbo snails and the condy?

[unleashed]

The best powerhead i have ever owned is the new TUNZE Nanostream 6045. It uses a magnet holder and can swivel 360 degrees

[2manyfish]

Snails and anemones should be fine with each other but once I did have a turbo get stung by a bubble tip anemone. I don't know if the snail couldn't 'smell' the anemone or what but it got stung, the anemone dropped it and the snail died a couple of minutes later. But that was only one snail, and it might have been ill which would explain why it didn't avoid the anemone like all the other snails did.

[Drumachine09]

Snails and anemones should be fine with each other but once I did have a turbo get stung by a bubble tip anemone. I don't know if the snail couldn't 'smell' the anemone or what but it got stung, the anemone dropped it and the snail died a couple of minutes later. But that was only one snail, and it might have been ill which would explain why it didn't avoid the anemone like all the other snails did.


What about blue legged hermits? I have seen them for a quarter or two at my lfs

[unleashed]

What about blue legged hermits? I have seen them for a quarter or two at my lfs
Unfortunately most of the organisms you guys get in the states are not allowed into New Zealand. If they are, they are extremely expensive.

Blue legged hermits are just one of the many species which are banned from New Zealand

[Drumachine09]

Unfortunately most of the organisms you guys get in the states are not allowed into New Zealand. If they are, they are extremely expensive.

Blue legged hermits are just one of the many species which are banned from New Zealand

Why is that? They are really cheap.

[unleashed]

Why is that? They are really cheap.
Do you really want to know?

[Drumachine09]

Do you really want to know?


ummmm. yea?!?!

[unleashed]

ummmm. yea?!?!

Right then


New Zealand has the world's strictist Biosecurity policies in the world. If any of you have ever been to New Zealand, you will know what I'm talking about. Animal and plant imports are the strictist policies of them all.

Mammals have to be quarantined for over a year to be sure that they are free from internal and external parasites.

In the case of freshwater and marine fish, they also have to be quarantined. No freshwater invertebrates are allowed to be imported as they are deemed biosecurity risks and could possibly effect native flora and fauna. Freshwater species must be quarantined for no less than 6 weeks in an apprved MAF transitional facility.

In New Zealand, a large portion of Marine fish and corals are allowed to be imported, however, most mobile inverts such as crabs, snails, shrimps etc are not. There is an exception to Tiger cowrie snails, coral banded shrimp, cleaner shrimp, fire shrimp and anemone shrimp. Marine fish and inverts have to be quarantined for a period no less than 3 weeks in an approved MAF transitional facility.

The reason why fish etc are so expensive here is because of the added work load required to be able to get them into the country as well as the quarantine costs. In the US, all you have to do is import them and as soon as they arrive you can sell them.

More info on quarantine here:

[Only Registered Users Can See Links.]

More info on quarantine here as well as the approved species list:

[Only Registered Users Can See Links.]

Have fun reading those two docos

[Drumachine09]

Right then


New Zealand has the world's strictist Biosecurity policies in the world. If any of you have ever been to New Zealand, you will know what I'm talking about. Animal and plant imports are the strictist policies of them all.

Mammals have to be quarantined for over a year to be sure that they are free from internal and external parasites.

In the case of freshwater and marine fish, they also have to be quarantined. No freshwater invertebrates are allowed to be imported as they are deemed biosecurity risks and could possibly effect native flora and fauna. Freshwater species must be quarantined for no less than 6 weeks in an apprved MAF transitional facility.

In New Zealand, a large portion of Marine fish and corals are allowed to be imported, however, most mobile inverts such as crabs, snails, shrimps etc are not. There is an exception to Tiger cowrie snails, coral banded shrimp, cleaner shrimp, fire shrimp and anemone shrimp. Marine fish and inverts have to be quarantined for a period no less than 3 weeks in an approved MAF transitional facility.

The reason why fish etc are so expensive here is because of the added work load required to be able to get them into the country as well as the quarantine costs. In the US, all you have to do is import them and as soon as they arrive you can sell them.

More info on quarantine here:

[Only Registered Users Can See Links.]

More info on quarantine here as well as the approved species list:

[Only Registered Users Can See Links.]

Have fun reading those two docos


woah, ill take your word for rit. Dang that sucks huh?

[unleashed]

I know. Just think how lucky you are

You can buy a cleaner shrimp in the states for around $12USD which is $16.27NZD

In New Zealand, Cleaner shrimp are around $70NZD to $120NZD depending on the size of the importers' shipments etc etc. This equates to around $51.61USD to $88.47USD for ONE cleaner shrimp

[cocoa_pleco]

in canadian dollars, cleaner shrimp are 20$ and hermits 2$