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Hey guys...
Im getting my first real community tank in november. It will be a 40 gallon rectangular tank and I was wondering what i should stock it with. Here are some things I would prefer;
1: I want to stay away from neon tetras, cherry barbs, and guppys.
2: I want to get fish that not everybody has. Like a figure 8 puffer.
3: I want to have some gouramis (mainly dwarf) in the tank.
4: I dont want the tank to be super easy (Like just 1 type) or super hard (no cichlids)
Thank you and have a great day!
Cristoff
10-16-2009, 10:32 PM
A group of Dwarf Neon Rainbowfish would look great in a 40 gal!
Lab_Rat
10-16-2009, 10:56 PM
What fish do you have available to you? Are you willing to purchase online where shipping is involved?
I do not want to buy fish online. I live by alot of fish stores, but they dont stock lots of fish, like lemon tetras. However, im going to a specialty store tomarrow, and will see what they have.
Thanks and have a great day!
Hey,
One thing I would not do is a community tank with Puffers. They don't tend to get on that great with other fish. And require a little salt in the water.
As for other fish, I agree with the others. Check out your LFSs, then form a plan around that. Then come and ask us.
mac
VoidParadigm
10-17-2009, 12:41 AM
Note that male dwarf gouramis cannot be kept together, and most fish stores don't sell females.
Ok! back from my lfs, and i found these cool fish: Boesemani rainbows (no dwarf neons though:scry: ) the upsidedown catfish, the swordtail, the rosey barb, the african spotted leaf fish, red tail sharks, stripped peakock eels, and tiger barbs. They also have dwarfs and snails. also, maybe different gouramis would be nice
Garrett
10-17-2009, 03:23 AM
Tiger barbs tend to be fin nippers, unless you've got them in a large school. I wouldn't include them in a tank with slower or big-finned fish.
Ok! back from my lfs, and i found these cool fish: Boesemani rainbows (no dwarf neons though:scry: )
Hmm IMO I would go for a 75g IME with these fish. They love the extra space to swim up and down. If you can I would try to find the Dwarf Neon Rainbows.
the upsidedown catfish,
IMO get a bit to large and require a nice group. Better choice if you can find them, Corys or small types of Loaches.
the swordtail, the rosey barb, the african spotted leaf fish, red tail sharks, stripped peakock eels, and tiger barbs. They also have dwarfs and snails. also, maybe different gouramis would be nice
As for the Swords they are okay, but they do like more harder water, which is less preferred by most other tropical fish bare for african Cichlids.
As for the Barbs are okay for your tank IMO. As for the Shark I have always found larger the tank the happier they are.
As for the Leaf fish they are predators, best by them selves in a species only tank, with the up-side down catfish if you wised.
Hope this helps,
mac
OK! here is my revised tank setup: 1 dwarfgourami, 1 gold gourami, a couple of tiger/rosey barbs, some bristlenose catfishes, some corys, some glowlights, and a snail or two. OH! and maybe a few crabs.
Lab_Rat
10-17-2009, 06:47 AM
OK! here is my revised tank setup: 1 dwarfgourami, 1 gold gourami, a couple of tiger/rosey barbs, some bristlenose catfishes, some corys, some glowlights, and a snail or two. OH! and maybe a few crabs.
I would choose either a dwarf gourami OR a gold gourami, not both as you will have fighting even though they are different species. You could do that with 8 tiger barbs (you can mix color morphs if you want more variety), 8 cories, a bristlenose pleco, and a snail (though the tiger barbs might pick at it's antennae.
Tetris
10-17-2009, 06:54 AM
2: I want to get fish that not everybody has. Like a figure 8 puffer.
If people don't usually keep a particular type of fish, there's usually a good reason for it. Just something to keep in mind...
I would not try Gouramis with Tiger Barbs. To much chance of the Gouramis getting there feelers nipped. Also they tend to get quite stress when fast moving fish are with them.
IMO I would not try it. Fish that would work are the Corys, BN, and a large shoal of Tiger Barbs.
Tetris good point.
mac
Tetris
10-17-2009, 11:24 PM
I'm making some assumptions here and jumping to a few conclusions, so excuse me if I'm wrong, but I get the feeling that you're coming from an angle where you're just setting up your first real aquarium and you want it to be special. You're a little ambitious because you're enthusiastic, and you want to reflect that enthusiasm instead of having your average run of the mill aquarium with the same pretty fish that everyone and their grandmother keeps and a fake castle.
So... Here would be my advice to you if the above sounds accurate.
1) The real challenge to keeping fish isn't necessarily keeping them alive. Most fish will survive as long as you keep up with your water changes and feed them. The real aspect that divides people who just want to play around and look at pretty fish from real enthusiastic fish keepers is the extent of research they put into their aquariums, and the extent they'll go to in order to provide the optimal environment, diet, and comfort for their fish. Most aquariums can be as difficult or easy as you want to make them.
2) It's understandable that you want your first real aquarium to be something special. But the fact is that you probably don't have the experience to do anything really special. If you did, then more people would be doing it, and it wouldn't be special.
3) Sometimes the best aquariums have the plainest fish.
With those 3 points in mind, I also have a few suggestions.
1) If you want to do something special, consider a biotope. You said you wanted gouramis? Research their native habitat and try to replicate it with other native fish, plants, or landscape characteristics.
2) Live plants aren't the demanding money pits some people think they are, and they will certainly make your aquarium stand out a bit more from the rest while adding a few more challenges for you to learn and understand.
3) I'm a fan of rasboras and loaches. Maybe look at some of those as tank mates?
Read, learn, ask questions, learn. Do this for long enough and your first aquarium will be 200% more enjoyable than it would have been if you just did the basic research and set it up ASAP.
Thanks for the advice tetris!
You are compleatly right on your assumptions of me.
So! Back from a different lfs, and... they have dwarf neon rainbows! Other cool fish there were golden barbs, pencil fish, harequin rasboras, hatchet fish, diamond tetras, cherry shrimp, and glass catfish. If anybody knows a biotop that would hold some of these fish and the bristlenoses, cory's and one of the gouramis, please tell me, im not very good at this...:scry:
Thanks and have a great day!
Sorry about the double post. just found a southeast asian biotop with tiger barbs, gouramis, zebra danios, and red tailed black sharks! I would also assume i could add golden barbs, glass cats, and siamese algea eaters, since they come from the same place. Does this look good? thanks and have a great day!
Tetris
10-18-2009, 02:01 AM
I believe the red-tail is an aggressive species and grows to a fair size.
Fish from the same habitat don't always do well in captivity since they don't have as much room to hide and they don't have anywhere to run as they would in the wild.
I'm not entirely confident about the compatibility of that list, but I'll let someone who knows more than me tackle that, since I don't want to go giving you false information and confusing you.
Varieties of rasboras and loaches will also fit into that habbitat and make nice additions to an aquarium. But with your aquarium being a community tank with slow moving fish that have nipable bits, it does add a little more limitation to your stocking options.
I particularly like harlequin rasboras. If given the proper care and diet they can get some impressive colour on them.
I suggested to go with a biotope tank as just an extra little research project so your aquarium will have the special feature of being native to that area. It probably wont be too impressive to anyone who just walks by the tank or doesn't particularly care, but it's nice to know a bit about where the fish come from, and may give you an extra sense of accomplishment if researching and recreating a specific habitat sounds interesting to you.
It's nothing like a rare specimen, but it's special in the sense that not everyone goes through the trouble of doing it and keeping it accurate.
Lab_Rat
10-18-2009, 03:31 AM
Sorry about the double post. just found a southeast asian biotop with tiger barbs, gouramis, zebra danios, and red tailed black sharks! I would also assume i could add golden barbs, glass cats, and siamese algea eaters, since they come from the same place. Does this look good? thanks and have a great day!
Just because they're all from the same area does not mean they will all get along well in a tank. What are the dimensions of your tank? Usually I wouldn't recommend a RTBS in a tank less than 48" long. They are a semi-aggressive species, but so are the gourami and the tiger barbs. If you like the gold barbs better than the tiger barbs I would go with a school of them instead. They're less likely to stress out the gourami than the tiger barbs would (tiger barbs are nippy). You could do a school of glass cats instead of the cories.
Sooo... gourami, golden barb, zebras, harlequin rasboras, glass cats, and a siamese algea eater or two sounds good (is this overstocked?)? dont know the dimensions of the tank. I will check tomarrow. Thanks and have a great day!
Lab_Rat
10-18-2009, 03:48 AM
Sooo... gourami, golden barb, zebras, harlequin rasboras, glass cats, and a siamese algea eater or two sounds good (is this overstocked?)? dont know the dimensions of the tank. I will check tomarrow. Thanks and have a great day!
If you really want all those species I would go with:
1 gourami
6 gold barbs
6 zebra danios
6 harlequin rasboras
8 glass cats
1 SAE
Your bioload should be ok with excellent filtration and tank maintenance. I would do at least 25% weekly wc's. It is heavily stocked but the glass cats will occupy the bottom and are pretty low bioload fish. Honestly, I think you'd be better off dropping one of the schooling species and increasing the numbers of the other two schools you keep (of the barbs, danios, and rasboras).
Goodbye danios, hello 8 goldens and harlys!
Thank you all for your help, and have a Terrific day!!!
Wait a minut... This is still for a 40 galloner, right? even dropping the danios, thats still over stocked, at the 1 gallon per inch rate, right?
Lab_Rat
10-18-2009, 04:03 AM
The inch per gallon is not the best rule to go by.
So this:
1 gourami
8 harlequins
8 gold barbs
8 glass cats
1 SAE
The harlequins and glass cats are going to produce a relatively low bioload for their length. The gold barbs won't produce a huge bioload either. The SAE and the gourami will produce the greatest amounts of waste but you're not adding a ton of them. It will be important though to add fish slowly after you cycle.
For example, once you complete your (hopefully fishless) cycle, add the 8 harlequins first. After a couple weeks of everything copacetic (no ammonia/nitrite registering which should be the case if you were cycled) then add the 8 gold barbs. After a couple more weeks add the glass cats. Finally you can add the gourami and the SAE. The key is to not add all fish at once, instead slower stocking will allow your biofilter to grow and be able to handle the waste from your final stocking plan. Does that make sense?
Thank you lab-rat! I will a fishless cycle but, unfortunatly, im not that patient. how long will it take?
Lab_Rat
10-18-2009, 04:51 AM
It can take some time, anywhere from 3 weeks to 8 weeks from what people have said. Can you get ahold of any used filter media? If so, you can jump start your cycle by adding the used media to your filter.
If you end up going the fish route to cycle it will take longer since you will need to do wc's to keep the ammonia and nitrite from killing the fish. If you choose this route I would see if you can get Tetra Safe Start. I've never used it but it supposedly works to instantly cycle your tank. IDK if I believe that, but it's worth a shot if that is how you're going. Another one to look into would be Stability.
thanks, also on the barbs, are we talking about gold barbs [Only Registered Users Can See Links.], or golden barbs [Only Registered Users Can See Links.]
Lab_Rat
10-18-2009, 05:51 AM
I've never seen the golden barbs, just thought you were talking about gold barbs, but it looks like the goldens are actually a little smaller. From the profile, it looks like they would be fine as well.
i was talking about gold barbs. Thank you all!
Just for the record. SAE's are a schooling fish. Most people don't think they are. But they truly are. I would go for a min of at least 4 of them.
mac
Lab_Rat
10-18-2009, 05:18 PM
Just for the record. SAE's are a schooling fish. Most people don't think they are. But they truly are. I would go for a min of at least 4 of them.
mac
4 SAEs in that tank WOULD overstock it. Gouramis are also schooling fish, especially the pearl species. Unfortunately most tanks are not able to handle a school of gouramis, hence the recommendation for a lone gourami most of the time. I keep a lone SAE in my tank and he does not appear stressed and is very active. I am sure he would prefer to have buddies, but as he was the only SAE in the LFS when I got him I really didn't have an option to get more. He schools with my rummynose.
So what do i do? drop one fish to get more sae? And i thought dwarfs and gold gouramies were aggressive to other males of the species, exept for females, but my lfs doesn't have females...
Chrisinator
10-18-2009, 06:11 PM
I think the "Golden Barbs" are actually Dwarf Gold Barbs. I'd go for those since they are smaller and you can probably house a couple more. I also like their black type spots.
If I were you, I'd get a pleco (Bristlenose and Pitbulle Plecos) come to mind instead of Siamese Algae Eaters. IF not, check out some Nerite Snails. They are pretty awesome looking!
Are bristlenoses from southeast asia? remember, im trying to do a biotop
Chrisinator
10-18-2009, 06:19 PM
Oops. Sorry. Nah, Bristlenose are actually from South America. My bad.
thats ok man, but then, does the original idea of 8 harlys, 8 gold barbs, 8 glass cats, a gourami and sae sound good?
Lab_Rat
10-19-2009, 02:58 AM
thats ok man, but then, does the original idea of 8 harlys, 8 gold barbs, 8 glass cats, a gourami and sae sound good?
It sounds good to me, I think it's well balanced. I'm sure there are other people that will disagree with me.
VoidParadigm
10-19-2009, 04:02 AM
As long as you keep an eye out for the barbs getting too rowdy for the gourami I think it's fine.
Shea Knight
10-19-2009, 05:51 AM
I really would recommend maybe a pleco as well- great aquarium fish, pretty peaceful, can grow large, can be a very interesting feature of the aquarium, and of ocurse they doe like to eat algae- they produce wate and biomass and all that junk, but it's stil cool to watch them eat and stalk the area...
And they get along great with most fish, mine get's along just fine with my tank, with 8 other fish, a Veiltail, two Celestial Eyes, three Serpae Tetras, and two Otos.
So yeah- if you still want another fish for that group that's unique and helpful, and as long as you know it WILL grow, and fast (my baby pleco went from less than an inch to about 2-3inches in just it's first 6 months with me so far, and they can grow to be 2 feet in optimum conditions) then I'd heavily recommend a pleco.
4 SAEs in that tank WOULD overstock it. Gouramis are also schooling fish, especially the pearl species. Unfortunately most tanks are not able to handle a school of gouramis, hence the recommendation for a lone gourami most of the time. I keep a lone SAE in my tank and he does not appear stressed and is very active. I am sure he would prefer to have buddies, but as he was the only SAE in the LFS when I got him I really didn't have an option to get more. He schools with my rummynose.
I know. Hence why I said 4 SAEs.
As for SAEs being on there own it really is bad fish keeping. These fish live in the wild just the same as Neon Tetras. Which means they should be kept as closely as possible to a school.
mac
Lab_Rat
10-19-2009, 03:38 PM
I know. Hence why I said 4 SAEs.
As for SAEs being on there own it really is bad fish keeping. These fish live in the wild just the same as Neon Tetras. Which means they should be kept as closely as possible to a school.
mac
You can accuse me of bad fish keeping all you want. My fish are healthy, act normally, and do not appear distressed. I've tried a pair of SAE previously, there was conspecific aggression so that is why I said only one. He is not shy and does not appear to be suffering without a school of his species. I am not going to lose any sleep over you thinking I'm a bad fish keeper.
Lolita
10-19-2009, 04:08 PM
I don't know if anyone agrees with this, but I would avoid the SAE altogether... especially for a beginner tank.
Not because they're particularly sensitive, but because they're incredibly hard to find. Most places mislabel these fish and it's very rare to find true SAE. If you want one for the purpose of algae eating, I would suggest a bristlenose or rubberlip pleco, or even a small school of otos if the existing bioload allows for it.
That's just my .02, though...
robflanker
10-19-2009, 04:11 PM
A BN or rubberlip pleco definitely don't have the same bioload as an SAE.
That would be like swapping a honda accord for a Hummer.
I'm ok with an SAE being on its own.
Lolita
10-19-2009, 04:13 PM
A BN or rubberlip pleco definitely don't have the same bioload as an SAE.
That would be like swapping a honda accord for a Hummer.
I'm ok with an SAE being on its own.
Oh I wasn't even thinking about the bioload of the pleco's x_x duh, Lo.
But the OP would have to make sure he was getting a true SAE, otherwise it would defeat the purpose of having one...unless he just wants one for looks.
You can accuse me of bad fish keeping all you want. My fish are healthy, act normally, and do not appear distressed. I've tried a pair of SAE previously, there was conspecific aggression so that is why I said only one. He is not shy and does not appear to be suffering without a school of his species. I am not going to lose any sleep over you thinking I'm a bad fish keeper.
Who said I was saying you. I was saying it in general.
The same as any one keeping fish in not enough size school. Me included. Quick check all fish are in large enough schools.
As for the aggression you have, it seems odd. IME and IMO you may not have the right SAE. Because of the 4 types there is a lot of room for the wrong one. THen the true SAE is so hard to even find in the fish keeping market.
Now the reason for only having one is aggression. I have 8 [Crossocheilus Langei] and never had any aggression at all. Though I add 2 new ones in to the tank. [Crossocheilus citripinnis] And there was constant fighting over the tank. Finally I went and bough 5 more, and the fighting stopped.
Now most people tend to say these are nasty fish. Either they arn't speaking from a logical point a view with years of fish keeping to back them in keeping of SAEs, or they don't know what they are on about.
Because if they have tried keeping them in large groups they would see a op-site character, than aggression.
One thing most people tend to do with fish that eat algae with the likes of SAEs and Ottos is only get a few. While both fish are schooling fish requiring larger groups than 1.
Now this is no attack as such. Just a point blank thought on the subject. In truth every one gets grumpy when some one has one Neon Tetra in a tank. Well these fish are the same.
If you don't believe me research them and see.
mac
fair enough mac. Any other ideas for an algea eating fish? Also, would it be possible to substitute the gourami for a betta?:18:
robflanker
10-20-2009, 01:42 AM
Well what did you decide on for stocking?
Lab_Rat
10-20-2009, 03:21 AM
fair enough mac. Any other ideas for an algea eating fish? Also, would it be possible to substitute the gourami for a betta?:18:
Not without breaking the Asian biotype. If you don't care about biotype then a bristlenose or otos would work, but if you go with a bristlenose I would drop the number of the barbs and rasboras to 6 each to help account for the increase in bioload.
I would worry about the barbs nipping the fins of a betta. I have no idea if gold barbs are nippy or not, but seeing as many are idk if I'd chance it with those flowing large fins. Maybe someone who has kept gold barbs can chime in and answer that.
IME Golden Barbs and Cherry Barbs are still barbs at heart. And they can np long following fins when they want.
But on the whole they are okay. Just keep them in a good size group. Bigger the better.
As for a Betta and Barbs I would not try it IME.
mac
Ok, no betta. BUT! in a recent developmant, the tank size might be upgrading to 55 gallons!!:19: So what then? More SAE? Or do get a bristlenose breaking the biotop (also lab-rat, im pretty sure bettas are from asia(thailand))
robflanker
10-20-2009, 11:29 PM
Pele: What size tank? and what did you decide on a species list? then we'll play with the stocking numbers
Pele: What size tank? and what did you decide on a species list? then we'll play with the stocking numbers
Didnt we already figure that out?
robflanker
10-20-2009, 11:36 PM
Well if you did - Im confused. You mentioned a lot of different fish, and people made a lot of different suggestions.
Just wondering if there was a finalized list...
KatzeSlaugen
10-21-2009, 12:09 AM
i personally tend to disagree with that statement. as long as you have enough surface area they wont bother each other much. in a small tank like a 10 or 15 there probably will be trouble having 2 or more but i had a 29 gallon with 2 male gouramis (until i had an ich outbreak) and they never went after one another. i know that not all fish fit a personality but from my experience gouramis have been labeled as more aggressive than they really are
VoidParadigm
10-21-2009, 12:12 AM
i personally tend to disagree with that statement. as long as you have enough surface area they wont bother each other much. in a small tank like a 10 or 15 there probably will be trouble having 2 or more but i had a 29 gallon with 2 male gouramis (until i had an ich outbreak) and they never went after one another. i know that not all fish fit a personality but from my experience gouramis have been labeled as more aggressive than they really are
My female killed my male.
My other gourami pair lived peacefully until disease got one.
Depends entirely on the fish.
Well if you did - Im confused. You mentioned a lot of different fish, and people made a lot of different suggestions.
Just wondering if there was a finalized list...
The finalized list was this: 8 harliquin rasboras, 8 gold barbs, 8 glass catfish, 1 gold/dwarf gourami, and like, 3 SAE (im upgrading to 55 gallon!!)
Lab_Rat
10-21-2009, 03:54 AM
Cool, 55g is a great size! I'd actually go with 4 SAE then.
So then? I guess we're done! Thank you all, and im starting cycling tomarrow! Ill tell you when i start to get fish
Good luck with your tank.
mac
Well, due to some executive medeling, some changes have to have been made to my tank. I'll do 5 of the schooling fish, because a pet store lady convinced my dad that my tank was over stocked. Luckily, i have a great dad who i was able to convince to let me, if it seems like it will work out, add more fish to the tank if the fish look like they're doing good!
Not without breaking the Asian biotype. If you don't care about biotype then a bristlenose or otos would work, but if you go with a bristlenose I would drop the number of the barbs and rasboras to 6 each to help account for the increase in bioload.
I would worry about the barbs nipping the fins of a betta. I have no idea if gold barbs are nippy or not, but seeing as many are idk if I'd chance it with those flowing large fins. Maybe someone who has kept gold barbs can chime in and answer that.
Excuse me if im wrong but, i thought bettas were from thailand (Asia) Also, if i replaced the gold barbs with zebra danios would it work?
Tetris
10-25-2009, 07:17 PM
Yes, Thailand is correct... Or at least I haven't read anything to the contrary... I've never been so I couldn't tell you firsthand :hmm3grin2orange:
Lab_Rat
10-25-2009, 07:34 PM
Excuse me if im wrong but, i thought bettas were from thailand (Asia) Also, if i replaced the gold barbs with zebra danios would it work?
I was referring to adding a bristlenose or otocinclus for breaking biotype, like others had suggested. The first part of your question, when you asked about other algae eaters other than SAE. Bettas are from Thailand. You can replace the gold barbs with the danios if you want.
IF you are planning to have a Betta with Danios that is a hit miss scenario.
Danios are great fin nippers. Which would make the Betta a great victim.
mac
Got the tank yesterday! But, do to excecutive medeling (again) the size got cut down to a 46 gallon BF. Im getting a heater today, any suggestions on brand?
Lab_Rat
10-27-2009, 11:47 PM
Visitherm Stealth heaters are the ones I prefer.
robflanker
10-27-2009, 11:47 PM
Visitherm Stealth heater
What about airstones? Does brand mater? (also, im on a 53$ budget until november 12)
one more thing, what kind of food should i use?
Lab_Rat
10-28-2009, 03:21 AM
Airstones are not necessary, only get one if you want bubbles. I only use them if I have to raise the temp or am medicating where I worry about decreased oxygen. For food, Hikari makes great food, as does NLS. Omega one is also good quality food.
hursab
10-28-2009, 04:47 AM
I only use them if I have to raise the temp or am medicating
How does this work?
Lab_Rat
10-28-2009, 04:53 AM
How does this work?
Airstones break up the air/water interface to increase surface area allowing for greater gas exchange and greater oxygenation of the water. Water holds less oxygen at higher temperatures and more oxygen at lower temperatures, hence you'll see recommendations for airstones when increasing the temps.
hursab
10-28-2009, 04:56 AM
Elementary!
Thanks for the info!
And i need a ph of about 7, right?
Lab_Rat
10-28-2009, 05:07 PM
A perfect pH is no where near as important as a steady pH. IIRC, you said your pH was 7.7 which should be fine for the fish you want to keep. Don't try to chemically alter it. Adding real driftwood will lower it without swings if it concerns you.
My dh is 75, is that good?
WEll, my experiance at my lps might mess up my plan....
I went there today to get some plants (Water wysteria or something like that) an, when i got home, i realizd that a 1 inch black mystery snail was in the bag! hes in my tank right now, and im wondering what i should do. Should i keep him, or give him back (i dont want to kill him?
WEll, my experiance at my lps might mess up my plan....
I went there today to get some plants (Water wysteria or something like that) an, when i got home, i realizd that a 1 inch black mystery snail was in the bag! hes in my tank right now, and im wondering what i should do. Should i keep him, or give him back (i dont want to kill him)? Also, even though i know its breaking the biotop, what would a peakock eel be like in my aquarium?
Garrett
10-29-2009, 02:54 AM
Can't comment on the eel, but snails happen. You sort of just pick them up when you're picking up plants, unless you're crazy careful about it. That's a pretty big snail to get by mistake, but honestly I'd just let it go. They'll help keep the tank clean, I picked up a solo snail from a friend a while back and he sort of just hangs out on the bottom of the tank. That's in addition to the trumpet snails that live in the sand and are generally beneficial to your tank.
Lab_Rat
10-29-2009, 04:22 AM
The peacock eel will get too big for your tank and will eat the smaller fish.
back to the betta, would one work in my tank if it was a female?
Today, i was at my lps, and i fell in love with platys, even though its breaking the biptop, would they work?
jordanthmn1
12-12-2009, 04:02 AM
Today, i was at my lps, and i fell in love with platys, even though its breaking the biptop, would they work?
If you really want an eel you might try a tiretrack eel. They can get big too though. I have had one for over a year he is very entertaining. They also should have bloodworms fed to them. I have never seen one 28" in captivity but there are many reports of them getting over a foot in length.
you're a bit late to the party
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