A second Bristlenose?

[Afk4Jfk]

I Would like to add a second bristlenose to One of my tanks. In my 10(which is more or less finished) Or my 29. If i were to put him in there how bad would the competition be for algae and cucumbers with my Farlowella? Any Ideas?

[Northernguy]

If you put an opposite sex bn in the 29 with your other one you won't have problems.Males are pushy with other males.
You can always keep the fry in the ten! lol

[Afk4Jfk]

NG, the bn is in the 10, and the threadfin falowella is in the 29. I wont put the bns together but what about the threadfin?

[Oscar_freak12321]

That shouldn't be any trouble, I don't think I've ever heard of a BN bothering any other species, algae eater or not.

[Northernguy]

I wouldn't keep the bns in a ten its too small! Definately not two!
Sorry!:22:

[Oscar_freak12321]

Agreed. If another one at all, it'd have to go into the 29. :22:

[mac]

IMO I would not do it if they are to be separate!! The 10g IMO is way to stocked.

As for the 29g it would be fine. As for a male female ration you would be fine. Just remember there is no way to stop them breeding:22: .

mac

[Afk4Jfk]

In all my reaserch in bns ive founfd they only reach about 5-6 inches. but the 10 g is out for another bn. so i might get either a bn or a small(4-5) school of otos to help the threadfin with the algae on the thinner leaves in my 29.

[Oscar_freak12321]

A school of otos would be nice. But a 10 gallon even for one BN is pushing it. Two would be disastrous, so as I said before, only the 29 if at all. :22:

[mac]

It is not always fish's full size. But how much waste they produce. These fish produce a large amount of waste. And Ottos would be better with regards to the size and boi load factor.

mac

[Afk4Jfk]

Hmmm Now if i am wrong let me know but by my calculations im only over by a few inches in my 10. but i have heavy aeration Plants and 2 filters running. If its a bio load thing i feel i might have that covered but if its a space issue then i will move the Albino Bn in with the thread fin. But that leaves me without an algae eater. If you can recomend one to replace my bn in the 10 i would feel a bit better about moving him.

[Oscar_freak12321]

Well, as long as you have over filtration and the tank's doing fine, you should be fine as well. Just realize that all plecos are heavy poopers, and need heavy filtration as is. A school of otos could work well in the 10 gallon if you move the other BN up.

[mac]

The 1in per gallon rule is not that great. IT only works for a few fish. And each fish is different in waste and size and neads ect, which makes the rule void.

The best gage is really just having test kits and common sense about the stocking.

mac

[Afk4Jfk]

Ok Sounds Nice. For my 10 how many otos? and if i were to choose my 29 for ottos(i have italian leapord Plant thin leaf) Instead of the bn How many? Also double filter and planted with heavy aerator. Just trying to make educated decisions.

[mac]

Really a 10g is quite small. And with all the fish in it, plus more it will be hard to keep water just pristine for the Ottos. Ottos love mature tanks, with very clean water. And the smaller the tank the harder.

mac

[Afk4Jfk]

The 1in per gallon rule is not that great. IT only works for a few fish. And each fish is different in waste and size and neads ect, which makes the rule void.

The best gage is really just having test kits and common sense about the stocking.

mac
I agree but it is a decent gauge not perfect. And i agree with the tests(i test every 2 days) If the all combined are to big... Ive made a mistake and i do count in mature size.(the bn in the 10 is the biggest. The rest I believe are 1.5-2 max.)

[Afk4Jfk]

how clean? my params are great, but i dont use carbon filtration so its not super clear.

[mac]

I agree but it is a decent gauge not perfect. And i agree with the tests(i test every 2 days) If the all combined are to big... Ive made a mistake and i do count in mature size.(the bn in the 10 is the biggest. The rest I believe are 1.5-2 max.)

As for counting the mature size 1.5 to 2 inches dose not sound right, for the fish you have.

Swords tails tend to get on wards to 4-5 inches long. Some males I have seen with are 7 inches long with there sword.

The Hatchet fish get around 3-3.5 inches. And need to be in shoals.

BNs are 4-5-6 inches long.

The Dwarf Gourami 4-5 inches long.

IMO and this is me get another 20g or better a 30g tank. Then shift the fish over. Because the fish will do better with the size of tank. And the Swords if in male or female ration will breed.


how clean? my params are great, but i dont use carbon filtration so its not super clear.

For how clean, well good parameters are best. Like you have. But they need it to stay that way always. And by the sounds of it the fish are small still, and the larger they get the harder it will become.

mac

[Afk4Jfk]

ok well learned I will set up another ten which i have just the tank. and divide them up, or should i just abandon my 10 (a shame cause i just ordered a plant lamp the other day) or I could keep the 10 as a plant growout with just the Bn and swordtails. I gotta ease up on the $$ spending for a couple of months.

[Afk4Jfk]

sorry mac painllers are kikin in cant typ e need to sleep any info i will check in thmorn ki

[jaysee]

I'll be the bad guy and say that you ought to think about switching around fish in both tanks. If nothing else, the corys should be in the 29 and in a larger school. Hatchet fish are also schooling fish and need more room than a 10. Also, 3 large livebearers and a pleco is a huge bioload for a 10.

[Afk4Jfk]

ok so i figured it out...once i get my 35 setup. i gotta wait a couple of months on that... I will transfer the 29 to that, and the 10 to the 29. that should just about cover it for when they mature. also when i do that i can get more hatchets and cories. the only things holding me back is temporary unemployment(about a month in october) and the space in my room(i can reorganize)

[jaysee]

Sounds like a good plan! Goodluck