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sailor
09-16-2009, 12:57 PM
What is with people today, I just don't know. Some of the excuses we get at work. In a 2 day period we fired 2 people 1 of which who hadn't even worked their first official shift. Both interviewed very well in both interviews and really seemed to have their poop in a group as they say.
#1 22 yr old male completed his 2 paid for orientation shifts
with no apparent problems. First real shift was supposed to be at work Sunday at 0930. Phone rings at 0935, I answer, the voice asks for the manager, I tell him that I was the on duty manager, he then asks what shift am I on. I ask who is this please, he tells me who he is. I tell him he was supposed to be at work 5 mins ago. He says he won't be in as he is tired and just got home an hour ago from a party. I said really, I just couldn't believe it. So I inform him that the inconvenience of having to come to work so early will not happen again as he no longer has a job.
#2 23 yr old female did her orientation shifts, did her first 2 real shifts. On her third shift she doesn't seem to have the same gusto as before. I asked her if there was a problem. She says yes. i ask if she would like to talk about it. We go to the staff room and she says she doesn't like the way the duty sheet is compiled. I say to her that she has a duty list to complete and that it doesn't really matter what order that it is done, just that the list is complete at the end of her shift. She says she doesn't like to be told what to do. Well after hearing that I told her to wait a min while I make a quick phone call. I called the store manager who was at our other location, tell him what is happening. He says show her the door. So I tell her that her services are no longer required. So out she goes lol.
I just couldn't believe why apply for a job if you don't like being told what to do or if you don't like to get out of bed in the morning.
We have also had a few people not show up after their orientation shifts lol. All they want to do is play with the animals. They don't realize there is a lot of work to keep those animals healthy and happy.
Where I work is a fantastic fun place to be and a whole lot less stressfull then most places. And with the booming economy here in Saskatoon the pay starts pretty good as well for most people getting their first job.
I just don't understand.
Sharon
09-16-2009, 01:01 PM
Many young people today(not all, but many) are so used to having things handed to them, that they actually don't know how to work. A daýs work is totally exhausting for them....and they don't like being told what to do because they have never been told what to do.....
robflanker
09-16-2009, 01:03 PM
It amazes me sometimes what people do.
Don't know if this commercial made it to canada but in the US there was the commercial for monster.com where an EMT ran up to a car accident and then fainted, and the whole tagline was 'in the wrong job?' or some such effect.
i had this happen to me because a newb didnt like blood. why would you join EMS if you cant deal with blood? lol just doesnt make sense to me
Lady Hobbs
09-16-2009, 01:04 PM
Sounds pretty normal to me. Do you know the last year at the convenience store where I worked that 75 people had been fired .......in one year! They want a job as long as it doesn't require working and can come and go as they please. Well, I should say they want a paycheck, not a job.
mattsbottleofjager
09-16-2009, 01:08 PM
I will gladly trade you, we can't seem to keep anyone here but the troublemakers. Even if a person misses half of their probation time, they get to keep their job and make our lives miserable by having to cover his/her shift. I have 2 people that work directly for me that have refused to do what I asked and one has had a few screaming matches with me, and nothing happened. I could rant on this topic all day long. :screaming:
rich311k
09-16-2009, 01:19 PM
It is amazing. I do anything I am asked to do by my boss. I watch the kids and others complain about everything, like they are doing us a favor by showing up. It is unbeleivable.
Mvjnz
09-16-2009, 01:22 PM
People like that get jobs, and I who am a perfect worker and always show up on time and do what I'm told can't even get a frickin interview.
mattsbottleofjager
09-16-2009, 01:26 PM
It is ridiculous, we need our entire crew cut in half at least, and somehow they can't seem to find people to fill the openings we have now.......Theres something wrong with the way they are advertising I think cuz there is just way too many good people out there looking for work. I really shouldn't post on this subject cuz I'm trying to deal with some major problems at work now.
Taurus
09-16-2009, 01:39 PM
Many young people today(not all, but many) are so used to having things handed to them, that they actually don't know how to work. A daŭs work is totally exhausting for them....and they don't like being told what to do because they have never been told what to do.....
Sharon, great post! thumbs2:
They've never had to face the real work (not all, but many). They have led such sheltered, coddled lives, alway being told where to go and what to do so they are never really challenged. Then they have to face reality and some just can't handle it, so they retreat back into their own safe little self-indulgent worlds. Work ethic is never learned because it's never taught.
Again, this is not a global statement that applies to all young adults. But not a day goes by where I don't witness a prime example of the above. :22:
BirdOfPray
09-16-2009, 01:40 PM
Gotta love idiots who make your job harder. In college I was the photo editor of the school newspaper, and that was my first foray into managment. UGH. Never again. I had three photographers, and usually one or two would be halfway decent and the third would be a total moron. One semester, I had an idiot call me at like 10 p.m. the day time sheets were due to ask me how to fill his out (it was an online system)... and he was drunk. Nothing I like better than spending my evening on the phone with a drunk explaining something he should have paid attention to during orientation. Another time, I made the mistake of posting my phone number in our office and noting, "For photo emergencies, call ###-####." The sheer number of things consituting emergencies in their minds was amazing ("I forgot the shortcut key for..."). Better yet was when the night-shift copy editors started calling me to ask me questions about the computer program THEY used that had nothing to do with my job. My last year there I had one photographer who really had a very artistic eye... but he was a total flake. He'd be great for a few days, then go through two or three weeks of being late for work, missing his assigned shoots, or coming back with horrible, completely unusable photos a blind preschooler could have taken ("Dude, did you consider hitting the focus button?"). Unfortunately, the people in charge only noticed his few days of greatness and blamed me for the interim horribleness. The next year, they offered him my job. He didn't last a semester. Could've told them that if they'd bothered to ask, but I guess that would have been awkward since it was my job they were giving him. Fortunately, I had already found another job that was much, much better.
Taurus
09-16-2009, 01:43 PM
Sounds pretty normal to me. Do you know the last year at the convenience store where I worked that 75 people had been fired .......in one year! They want a job as long as it doesn't require working and can come and go as they please. Well, I should say they want a paycheck, not a job.
That is just incredible. 75 people who don't know what to do with a job when they have one.
Twe3k
09-16-2009, 02:04 PM
that is incredible sailor, not going to work because too tired to get up:(... dont like to be told what to do?? please send them my way.. im sure the military will change their ways of thinking:)
This is what comes of spoiling children and not making them responsible for their actions or for even living in a cooperative household with chores.
I see this all the time. I see it start with younger children and then continue on when they're teens. A large portion of our society is raising their children with a sense of entitlement that has repercussions in the real world. I'm not sure what parents are thinking - that if they spoil their children, voila - they'll magically turn into responsible adults?
I think it's maybe a good thing that we're not raising another generation of workaholics that have no private or family life...but this swinging the opposite extreme.
What we need to do is raise children with a healthy work ethic AND a respect for a healthy private life.
mattsbottleofjager
09-16-2009, 03:01 PM
Can I ship some of mine your way too? I would love to see these people in the military, thinking about it makes me laugh :hmm3grin2orange:
Twe3k
09-16-2009, 03:05 PM
reminds me of my first day at boot camp.. we had this kid.. who didnt even make it past the first 6 hours.. We got in really late.. and by the time we set up our bunk.. we all headed to chow.. well one the kid was eyeing of our our female TI and she went up to him and start talking to him.. well i guess he think he was still in the hood and swung at the female TI.. the funny thing was the TI moved.. and tackle him agains the wall.. his head was cut pretty bad.. the TI got up and i qoute " YOU'RE IN MY HOOD NOW":)
BTW...my neighbour did some private house-cleaning for a few years. The stories she'd tell me are domestically hair-raising.:hmm3grin2orange:
She was vacuuming one time...during the middle of the day...for some reason all 3 teenage daughters were home watching TV and wouldn't move from the family room to let her vacuum...she had to clean around them.
Another time she was surprised to find an adult son at home in the middle of the day sleeping. She called the owners to find out what she was supposed to do about his room (on her cleaning list) and they told her to clean around him. She was too uncomfortable to go into a grown man's bedroom while he was in the bed and do housework.
I think she quit both those jobs...
Northernguy
09-16-2009, 04:05 PM
Kids do need to know what work is all about,in school and out!
Chores around the house are a great start. I have had my boys cutting grass and shovelling snow for years now.They also get to help haul wood from the bush,after its cut they get to stack it all in the shed.Usually there is enough wood to heat a house for 6 months.
They also have to learn about responsiblilty.Nothing in life is free except Love and Air!I hope my boys succeed in life and not being scared of a little bit of work everyday is a good start.
They are both teens now and are learning how to cook,clean and don't forget to teach them how to do their own laundry! lol
I agree...
You also learn how to run/repair a house (or work, etc.) by living in a house and pitching in...
If you always someone cleaning up after you...and if you can't hold down a job (to pay for your own maid service)...you're going to have a very unhappy life...
We all pretty much do our own laundry at this point - with some exceptions...I may have to remind my 14-year old to wash his sheets/bath towels...but he has no problem doing them...
sid101
09-16-2009, 05:26 PM
Spoiled little kids who never learned what "what has to be done" means, only thinking on a new boobjob or hot rims for a car they didn't even pay, that's what happens when parents try to be friends and don't do their job as they should.
BirdOfPray
09-16-2009, 06:03 PM
I agree that kids aren't learning to be independent and work hard these days! Out toddler obviously doesn't have any chores yet (but he will... oh yes, he will!), but I try to find ways of encouraging him to do things for himself before looking to me to do them for him. When he loses toys under the futon, I tell him to try to get them by himself first and ask me if he needs help. He always looks so proud when he gets them himself! Also, I make sure to spend time playing with him but I also make a point of being sure he gets some time each day when he entertains himself. When he falls down, I wait to see if he's actually upset rather than rushing over to pick him up. Most of the time, he just stands back up and goes back to whatever he was doing. When he throws his temper tantrums (not often, but all toddlers do), I tell him to come find me when he's done and I walk away (if we're at home). People usually act a little shocked that I don't always help him right away, but I think the results speak for themselves. He's a very happy, independent, busy little boy and already shows very good critical thinking and problem-solving skills. He knows his parents are right there if he needs us, but he's learning that he doesn't need us for every little thing. I hope to keep encouraging those traits!
Jon-C
09-16-2009, 08:32 PM
I learned a long time ago if you want toappreciatws at work you have to bitch and act as if you are unhappy your employer will give anything keep you.
Example my fiancé was about to get fired and knew it she broke down in tears and bit he'd about how much her life sucked and instead of firing her they gave a nice raise
but if your happy an easy going then you will be overlooked everytime
it sad but that how it gos
my boss told me yesterday if I didn't slow down I was going to work myself out of a job I asked if there was somthing wrong with my work he said no your the best I have how does that work
lobsternoob
09-16-2009, 09:35 PM
Well, I hate to admit it, but I'm one of these kind of people sort of. I have no problem actually working. It's not that I can't do it, it's that I hate working in a structured environment unless I'm providing the structure. But, I have known this since I had my first real job at 14. Because of that I've learned many skills that allow me to work how I want, and be my own boss. I do lapidary, tank maintenaince and run my own sort of handyman service that does all kinds of stuff (gardening, hauling, shopping or pharmacy trips, pet sitting, I even do almost daily wine runs for a rich slob of a woman in the neighborhood). I also do part time work for a large consumer testing company, and also work part time for a gourmet food delivery company. Basically what I'm trying to say is if your that kind of person that can't hold down a "real" job, find something you can do, there's always something. I run into all sorts of bad employees when I have a large job and need to hire someone to help me. In the last year I've crossed off a list so long its truly ridiculous. Half of the people on that list wouldn't even show up or call me when it was time for the job, but once the pay comes in they're ready to roll. I also have some decent health problems that can make working pretty difficult at times, but nobodys gonna pay my medical bills if I don't work, so not much of a choice there. :22: to all of you that do work normal jobs, and to those of you like me, well there's always something out there you can succeed at, you just have to actually try.
King Tut
09-16-2009, 10:44 PM
I love the military idea. I think some time in the military is great. I know when I went in at 17 just 6 months later my mom was surprised how I had changed. And I did chores before and had a job from the time I was 12 (carried golf bags at a country club). There is so much spare the rod and spoil the child these days that the kids are soft and uncaring. Our daughter already knows that there is a consequence for every action. If you do good there is praise. Screw up and well Mom and Dad are judge and jury. I think also some of these teens (not all, there are great kids on here) need to respect themselves a little more first. And believe me I know how the company can call you the best one minute and the next you are trying to figure out how to pay the mortgage and feed a 6 month old. Sorry this rant went all over the place.
Tetris
09-17-2009, 01:03 AM
The key to keeping a job is to find something that satisfies you in some way besides money.
My job keeps me active and in shape.
Even though the work is exhausting, the hard work keeps me too focused to get lazy or bored and the exercise makes it worthwhile. So my 8-9 hour shift is over before I know it. Once I get off work all I can think about is eating and sleeping, then I wake up early and do it all again the next day.
Keeps my life simple. Keeps me well paid. Keeps me strong and healthy. Couldn't ask for much more.
Chazbot
09-17-2009, 01:29 AM
AMEN to everything here!
Do you love it when you walk into ANYWHERE and have some group of teenagers standing around yammering about where the party is tonight without a CLUE about the job they're supposed to be doing? AARRGGHH!!
However, I won't restrict that statement to teenagers. I've run across plenty of adults who are just as bad - or worse!
People just don't care any more. It's sad.
Tetris
09-17-2009, 08:36 PM
Anyone else have employees in their pet shops that say they're going to help you, but then make an excuse to walk away and start handling the snakes whenever some women enter the store?
Girl Got Mojo
09-17-2009, 09:11 PM
This is what comes of spoiling children and not making them responsible for their actions or for even living in a cooperative household with chores.
I see this all the time. I see it start with younger children and then continue on when they're teens. A large portion of our society is raising their children with a that has repercussions in the real world. I'm not sure what parents are thinking - that if they spoil their children, voila - they'll magically turn into responsible adults?
I think it's maybe a good thing that we're not raising another generation of workaholics that have no private or family life...but this swinging the opposite extreme.
What we need to do is raise children with a healthy work ethic AND a respect for a healthy private life.
Said a mouthful there Rue. Ten thumbs up. You too NGthumbs2:
I'm actually one of those kids that was overpriveliged and now have that
sense of entitlement .... but i know its there, and it is definately a mental
block. My early self awareness is what is helping me i suppose. I worry about
my 3 younger brothers fragile, ready to mold minds.
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