Oscar and Goldfish Get Along---New Guy Here

[ZiggyManMonster]

JUST SIGHNED UP AND IS THERE A PLACE I CA FIND FOOD CHARTS LIKE THE PROTEIN/I FORGET.DONT FEEL LIKE LOOKING RIGHT NOW,BUT FOR GOLDFISH,TROPICAL,AND CICHILIDS. sorry the the spelling.lol
upload pics later on.

i got 2 tiger oscar cichlids 2 common goldfish 2 blue gourami's 4 small diano's

had 1 black molly till she died and i've had my 5.5in goldfish named Nora who runs the tank.1 tiger oscar been sick since i got it,but i know what the problem is and been helping him get back on his fins.he looks very skinny so that shows he hasn't been eating so i force him to eat.he drops down rock bottom all day.he's not pe'd off at me,but did notice really small white dots all over(you can barely see them)so i gave him ick away on the safe side.

i'm not a doctor but i've cured my fish a few times from swim bladder,ick,hole n the head and something i called "Rock Jaw" (choking on rock) where you squeeze your fish soft and and pull the rock.it was funny cause you can see big rock in her mouth and she keeps trying swim up but goes straight down mouth first.i let it go on for 3 mins till i helped.

[smaug]

Welcome to the forum.Keep us posted about how it all eventualy works out for you.:22:

[Northernguy]

Welcome to the Fabulous AC!:22:
How big are your oscars now?
Tell us about your tank and filtration.

[Red]

How big is your tank? I hope somewhere around 150gal.
Welcome to the forum!

[Lab_Rat]

Welcome to the forum. I take it you have 3 tanks, 2 of them being very large.

[robflanker]

welcome to the AC!

As mentioned, i hope you have some big tanks because you fish get very big and aren't very compatible with each other

[ZiggyManMonster]

i know what every one is thinking how big is your tank.well that my friend is something i dont save,but i do have 3..i need 2 more.they need to be long.somewhere round 72longx12x12.then i want i custom thing like this one at

[Only Registered Users Can See Links.]

but i want my own lights.there going to go to the music,but the lights are going to bounce off wall and not into fish over pass.there will be parts were little light goes in.i'll draw up a pick and post in the morning

[robflanker]

So dont leave us hanging.... how big are the tanks?

also, what are you or are you not saving?

[ZiggyManMonster]

lol no.i have enough.maybe more.who knows!

it's in front of the living room fireplace.with a custom stand i built for it.
i dont know how big your fireplace is but mine is.........LOL

[robflanker]

enough what? tanks? gallons? fish? pieces of gravel?

you fireplace is "laugh out loud"?

dude - how big are you tanks

[ZiggyManMonster]

it could be 6 feet long X 17.5in wide and 3ft tall

i dont know......we see next time when i clean it.

[Lab_Rat]

lol no.i have enough.maybe more.who knows!

it's in front of the living room fireplace.with a custom stand i built for it.
i dont know how big your fireplace is but mine is.........LOL
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Hi Ziggy, I don't mean to be rude, but could you please complete your sentences? I'm not a mind reader and have no idea what you are trying to say. Thank you.

[robflanker]

it could be 6 feet long X 17.5in wide and 3ft tall

i dont know......we see next time when i clean it.

You aren't sure? When did you last clean it?

I must admit I am concerned

[Kaz]

i know what every one is thinking how big is your tank.well that my friend is something i dont save,but i do have 3..i need 2 more.they need to be long.somewhere round 72longx12x12.then i want i custom thing like this one at

It appears he doesn't know the size of any of the 3 of his tanks.

Can you at least tell us the stocking you have in each tank?

If you can measure them later that would be nice.

[ZiggyManMonster]

Hi Ziggy, I don't mean to be rude, but could you please complete your sentences? I'm not a mind reader and have no idea what you are trying to say. Thank you.



WELL I DIDNT COMPLETE MY SENTENCES BECAUSE THATS THE FIRST THING EVERYONE ASK.EVERYONE THINKS THERE A PRO AND THERE NOT.so why tell anyone what sizes my fish tanks are if i been buying custom fish tanks and have had fish tanks since i was 10yr old.i'm now 25yrs old.i think i know what i'm doing dont you.

[Deleted User]

Actually, no, I don't think you are as informed as you might be if you are keeping oscars and goldfish as "pet" tank mates. I don't think people were trying to agitate you but trying to get a feel for your situation with the tanks so they could offer constructive advice.

I've been keeping horses for about as long as you've been keeping fish. What I've experienced is that any time I start feeling too smug in how much I know, something happens to show me how much there is still to learn.

[Lab_Rat]

WELL I DIDNT COMPLETE MY SENTENCES BECAUSE THATS THE FIRST THING EVERYONE ASK.EVERYONE THINKS THERE A PRO AND THERE NOT.so why tell anyone what sizes my fish tanks are if i been buying custom fish tanks and have had fish tanks since i was 10yr old.i'm now 25yrs old.i think i know what i'm doing dont you.

First of all, thank you for the complete sentences. Now I can understand what you are saying.

Second of all, there is no need for you to be rude and yell like that. I didn't realize the first thing everyone asks is for you to complete your sentences. It must be very difficult to have a conversation with you. Or maybe other people are better at reading your mind than I am.

About the tank sizes, people ask because you have a total mess of fish. It doesn't matter how long you have been HAVING fish, there is a big difference between having fish and keeping fish properly. Anyone can have fish for 15 years, just keep buying new ones when the old ones die every couple of months, no big deal, right? Doesn't mean you have a clue as to the proper care and environment for the species you have.

If you have all the fish you say you have in a single tank then you have no clue what you are doing. If the goldfish, oscars, and tropicals are all in different, suitable, setups then you actually may have a clue as to what you are doing. For right now I'm leaning towards the former. And I don't believe you're 25 years old, you write like a 15 year old who is trolling. Goodbye troll.

[ZiggyManMonster]

EVERYONE THINKS THERE A PRO AND THERE NOT.so why tell anyone what sizes my fish tanks are if i been buying custom fish tanks and have had fish tanks since i was 10yr old.i'm now 25yrs old.i think i know what i'm doing dont you.

just to let everyone know my main fish tank in the basement is 18ft long 3ftwide and 4ft tall.i get in it just to clean it out.has 4 dividers 1 custom divider where the water pours in to my filter has small holes size of a sharpie marker.(marker fits right through it)then 2 pumps(1 submergible pump) that carry water to a tub that you use for storage.i use it to help filter the water.now to the last thing is 3 water hose (cut from 1 hose)1 going to the complete other side of the tank adding water and air to my tank 1 in the middle and 1 is used for my water fall before my 3rd divider.all connected to a pump that looks like this------[Only Registered Users Can See Links.] actual but close.mine is alot bigger and has a water flow rate changer(it can pump alot or barely any)i payed about $900 for mine.

[Wiggs]

I dont understand how people askig how big your tank is correlates into them thinking they are a "Pro"


This is probably the must humber forum you will find on the internet..

[Lab_Rat]

Good for you, I'm glad you can go swimming in your basement tank. It surely is large enough for the fish you have mentioned keeping. Still doesn't mean they should all be kept in the same tank.

Why should you say what size your tanks are? Because, again, I must bring up the point that we are not mind readers. We do not know you have a swimming pool in your basement for fish. For all we know, all those fish could be crammed into a 29g tank, and with your superior experience and knowledge I'm sure you can see why we would be concerned.

People here want what is best for the fish. I'm not a pro, never claimed to be. I am simply a hobbyist trying to do what is best for my fish and help people out when I can. Obviously you are the pro here, with your vast experience and your basement pool tank.

[ZiggyManMonster]

It appears he doesn't know the size of any of the 3 of his tanks.

Can you at least tell us the stocking you have in each tank?

If you can measure them later that would be nice.

right now all fish are in 45 but the 2 oscars.1 is in my big big tank over 400 gallons that was built and installed in my basement by some company i cant remember he's a little guy i put him in the 45 with goldfish during day so he has someone to play with.my second is above that tank in a 10 gallon.he was sick when i got him and been sick ever since.i know whats wrong with him so dont ask.SO I REALLY HAVE 4 TANKS BUT I DON'T COUNT 10 GALLON BECAUSE IT NONE OF MY FILTERS WILL FIT OR ANYTHING BESIDES BUBBLES.NOT EVEN ORNAMENTS.

NOW HERE COME THE QUESTIONS
HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN MESSING WITH FISH TANKS.
WHATS YOUR BIGGEST FISH TANK SO I CAN LAUGH.

[Wiggs]

Obvious troll is obvious.

[Lab_Rat]

i put him in the 45 with goldfish during day so he has someone to play with.

Probably the stupidest thing I've read all day.

[ZiggyManMonster]

Good for you, I'm glad you can go swimming in your basement tank. It surely is large enough for the fish you have mentioned keeping. Still doesn't mean they should all be kept in the same tank.

Why should you say what size your tanks are? Because, again, I must bring up the point that we are not mind readers. We do not know you have a swimming pool in your basement for fish. For all we know, all those fish could be crammed into a 29g tank, and with your superior experience and knowledge I'm sure you can see why we would be concerned.

People here want what is best for the fish. I'm not a pro, never claimed to be. I am simply a hobbyist trying to do what is best for my fish and help people out when I can. Obviously you are the pro here, with your vast experience and your basement pool tank.


I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT EVERYONE IS SAYING,BUT I NEVER ASKED FOR A OPINION.IF SOME BUYS A SICK FISH LET ALONE BE A OSCAR I WOULD THINK THEY ARE RATHER REALLY DUMB OR THEY KNOW WHAT THERE DOING.LIKE I SAID BEFORE I HAVE CURED FISH FROM HOLE N THE HEAD AND SWIM BLADDER.HOW MANY YOU KNOW WHO CAN WITHOUT THOSE STORE BOUGHT CRAP THEY SELL.AS FAR AS IT GOES FOR WHATS BEST FOR THE FISH.TO HAVE NEVER BEEN CAUGHT OR TANK BREED.OVER THE YEARS FISH LIFE SPAN HAS GONE DOWN THE DRAIN.LETS TALK ABOUT HOW EVERY ONE FEELS ABOUT THAT.DOES ANYONE HAVE A BASS IN THERE TANK.I WANT ONE OR EVEN A WATER MOCKASINE(WATER SNACK SORRY FOR SPELLING

[Wiggs]

LIKE I SAID BEFORE I HAVE CURED FISH FROM HOLE N THE HEAD AND SWIM BLADDER.HOW MANY YOU KNOW WHO CAN WITHOUT THOSE STORE BOUGHT CRAP THEY SELL.



Very clean water.....

is hard.

[fins_n_fur]

Okay...it's time for a time out, possibly an enforced one. If there is a point to this thread besides bragging how large your tank is, could we please get back on to it? Thanks.

[ZiggyManMonster]

Actually, no, I don't think you are as informed as you might be if you are keeping oscars and goldfish as "pet" tank mates. I don't think people were trying to agitate you but trying to get a feel for your situation with the tanks so they could offer constructive advice.

I've been keeping horses for about as long as you've been keeping fish. What I've experienced is that any time I start feeling too smug in how much I know, something happens to show me how much there is still to learn.


FUNNY I GREW UP ON A FARM.
THING IS IF YOU DONT WANNA TELL ANYONE JUST ONE THING THEY WANT TO KNOW IT AGITATE THEM.I THINK IT'S FUNNY.I COULD CARE LESS WHAT PEOPLE THINK,BUT YES THINGS DO HAPPEN THAT WE DONT KNOW ABOUT.THERE'S A FIRST FOR EVERYTHING,BUT I AM NOT ASK ANYONE FOR HELP WHEN I CAN READ IT OUT MY LIBRARY AND FIND OUT MYSELF.

I TRIED TO CURE A FISH BEFORE WHEN I WAS 15 AND EVERYONE SAID MY FISH HAD HOLE N THE HEAD.WRONG WRONG WRONG.I WENT BY WHAT SOME 35 PEOPLE SAID AND MY FISH DIED ASAP.NOT EVEN 2 MINS LATER.SO I DONT LISTEN TO WHAT PEOPLE THINK OR FEEL THEY KNOW.I LISTEN TO MYSELF BECAUSE NO ONE IN THIS WORLD KNOWS HOW MY FISH ACT BUT ME.I'VE NEVER HAD A FISH THAT WONT COME TO MY HAND.I PICK UP ALL MY FISH AND THE NEVER TRY TO GET AWAY.THERE SO CALM.

[Wiggs]

Science is wrong. Its perfectly fine to pick up fish.



is that what you are trying to tell us?

[Lab_Rat]

I TRIED TO CURE A FISH BEFORE WHEN I WAS 15 AND EVERYONE SAID MY FISH HAD HOLE N THE HEAD.WRONG WRONG WRONG.I WENT BY WHAT SOME 35 PEOPLE SAID AND MY FISH DIED ASAP.NOT EVEN 2 MINS LATER.SO I DONT LISTEN TO WHAT PEOPLE THINK OR FEEL THEY KNOW.I LISTEN TO MYSELF BECAUSE NO ONE IN THIS WORLD KNOWS HOW MY FISH ACT BUT ME.I'VE NEVER HAD A FISH THAT WONT COME TO MY HAND.I PICK UP ALL MY FISH AND THE NEVER TRY TO GET AWAY.THERE SO CALM.

If it died within 2 minutes of the advice given, it was already a goner anyway. How did you get 35 people to give you advice so fast? And, by the way, if you'd kept your water well maintained you wouldn't have had to deal with HITH.

Yeah, great fishkeeping skills, picking up your fish with your hands...do you carry them around in your pockets too? My fish really like it when I do that. They like to go for car rides and sometimes I take them for a walk in the park.

[Wiggs]

Yeah, great fishkeeping skills, picking up your fish with your hands...do you carry them around in your pockets too? My fish really like it when I do that. They like to go for car rides and sometimes I take them for a walk in the park.


See, mine are more adventurous. They love it when I take them skiing. Some say the cold is too much for them, BUT IT'S FINE TRUST ME I KNOW WHAT IM DOING.

[Lady Hobbs]

Now we have a second Mod paying attention to this thread.

Keep the topic on track, whatever the topic is, and stop using capital letters in your posts. These people here do not need to be yelled at.

[Wiggs]

Keep the topic on track, whatever the topic is, and stop using capital letters in your posts. These people here do not need to be yelled at.


[Only Registered Users Can See Links.]

[Deleted User]

Oh, I've got you all beat. Sure, you may take your fish for walks in the park and skiing, but I have gotten mine to help me break my miniature horses for riding. They sit right up between their ears, grab a fin-ful of forelock, and hang on tight.

[ZiggyManMonster]

Probably the stupidest thing I've read all day.

I NEED TO PUT UP A VIDEO SO YOU CAN SEE

[Wiggs]

we dont want to see a video of you picking up your fish. Science and common sense tells you that's a bad idea.


Also can read your posts just fine without the caps.

[Lab_Rat]

I NEED TO PUT UP A VIDEO SO YOU CAN SEE

I would love to see a video of you saying stupid things. While your at it, a video of your basement pool would be really cool. Do you have a stream running through your basement as well?

[fins_n_fur]

This thread has absolutely no point nor merit for the posts. It's closed. OP please see my pm.