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archmichelle
03-24-2007, 06:53 AM
I am new to this forum and I tried to post this somewhere else, but for some reason, it wouldn't work. So, I am introducing myself and asking some questions at the same time.
With that intro, here is what's going on with my thread. I am a beginner fishkeeper. I got my first aquarium this past November. It is a 10 gal with a peaceful community consisting of 2 rosy white tip tetra, 3 platies (1 male, 2 female), 1 hillstream loach, 1 mystery snail, 1 African dwarf frog, and a pair of sparkling gouramis. About a week ago I noticed my gouramis were all of a sudden chasing everyone around the tank. I couldn't figure out why that was until about midweek I noticed there were fry hiding amongst two of the silk plants in one corner of the aquarium. You can imagine my surprise, I mean I know my platies give birth all the time and I have accepted the fact that the rest of the fish (as well as the palties themselves) probably gobble them up pretty quickly considering there are only so many places to hide in a 10 gal aquarium. My sparklers, on the other hand, are defending their young with a vengeance. By the time I got an addtional 5 gal tank to move my other fish to, the sparklers had tore some scales off one of the platies and ripped the dorsal fin of one of my tetra. I thought once I had everyone separated things would calm down though. Boy was I wrong. Everything is fine in the 5 gal, but the gouramis are spawning again! Yesterday the male was chasing the female and I thought I was going to have to move her too, tonight they're practlically swimming right next to each other all night, as the female dances and then the male wraps around her, squeezes some eggs out, and puts them into his nest. Maybe for someone trying to breed their fish this isn't all so shocking, but for me I really feel like a fish out of water (excuse the pun.)

So here are my questions I'm hoping you guys can help me with. I noticed my sparklers look pretty tattered right now, especially the male. His tail is split into multiple sections as well as some of his other fins. Is this normal, or should I be worrying about stress here? Neither sparkler seems to be eating much right now. Is this normal? When is it time to get the female out of the tank? Now that it is empty of fish other than my bottom dwellers, there are lots of places for her to hide, but maybe she is stressing the male out more while he's trying to be a good dad?

Anyway, I already know if I'm going to want to keep any of these fry once they get big I'm going to have to get a bigger aquarium (still working on my husband on that one.) Any other suggestions for things I can do to help the situation would be so very appreciated.

kimmers318
03-24-2007, 11:06 AM
Wow! First off let me say congrats on the unexpected mating! I started with 6 sparklers, had them in an understocked 65 gal tank and never saw any spawning.
As for the aggression, gourami are known for defending their nests, so you did the right thing moving the others out. The male and female should probably be seperated also for a couple of reasons. He will defend his nest and it could end in death for the female, and, you may end up with more fry than you can handle. Let him raise his babies alone the way he apparently wants to. As for the damage on him, some melafix/pimafix would probably help, but I don't know if it would be damaging to the fry. My first suggestion to try would be to squirt some stresscoat directly on him and do a nice healthy water change. Most fight damage can heal itself as long as no underlying infection sets in. You can avoid infection with nice clean water, and the stresscoat will just help him feel better and allow his skin some protection so that it can start to heal itself.
It might be a good idea to keep mom and dad seperate now so that you don't end up with hundreds of baby sparklers and to give each a chance to heal and get strong again.
If you are near NE Ohio I will happily take some of those fry off your hands when they are big enough:19:

Drumachine09
03-24-2007, 01:39 PM
Welcome to the A.C.!

Congratulations on the fry too:thumb:

Abbeys_Mom
03-24-2007, 01:55 PM
Welcome to the forum. I have a Sparkling gourami and they have got to be one of my favorite fish. I have a hard time keeping them as my PH and KH is all wrong for them. Congrats of the successful spawning.

Lady Hobbs
03-24-2007, 04:55 PM
Welcome to AC. The introduction thread is simply to say hello and your introduction. Discussions about your fish will get your better responses if you bring your questions up in thread for gourami's.

Tails
03-24-2007, 05:31 PM
Welcome to AC :) I must add, that even though I probably will never own any gourami's, I've learnt something by reading this (the males raise the young?)

Thanks :)

cocoa_pleco
03-24-2007, 05:44 PM
WOW, breeding those puppies is quite an accomplishment. Theyre tough fish to keep.

I remember when i finally bred my corys i was happier than anything.

archmichelle
03-24-2007, 05:47 PM
Thanks for the quick responses everybody! I actually tried to post this late last night in the gourami section, but for some reason it wouldn't work. I'm going to go ahead and do that now. I am actually in Portland, OR, so if anyone is close by, let me know if you want some sparklers. Thanks for the offer kimmers318, wish I lived closer.

jweintraub
03-24-2007, 06:11 PM
Welcome to AC and congrats on the Gourami's! Definately something i'd like to see!

jeffs99dime
03-26-2007, 05:31 PM
welcome to a.c.:thumb:

Severus
03-26-2007, 05:34 PM
Welcome to AC

Incredulous_Ed
03-26-2007, 08:02 PM
Welcome to AC!

Definet;y move the female to the 5 gallon before she gets killed!

One thing about baby Anabantidae is that they need warm, moist air directly over the water because it helps them to develop their labyrinth organ.
-Ed

sushant
04-24-2007, 07:12 PM
Welcome to AC!:22: