Apology

[Wetpets]

I have to apologise for soem of my comments/replies on thread [Only Registered Users Can See Links.]

I'm actually a good guy that wants to help...

I kinda offended senior forum members (not good for a "guppy") and just wanted to say these people deserve more respect than I gave them (not intentionally, you understand).

WP

[Algenco]

I didn't get the impression that insults were the intent, you are obviously excited about the possibilities the product can bring

[jaysee]

I didn't get the impression that insults were the intent, you are obviously excited about the possibilities the product can bring

I agree, and would bet you were surprised by the responses.

[Kaz]

Well you did a little jumping to conclusions.

[William]

Very nice of you to post this thread.

[robflanker]

I was surprised the responses were as calm as they were to be honest.

I don't think you offended anyone, but when someone has a counterpoint or just plan disagrees - it doesn't mean they need lecturing

But you've gained a lot of credibility in my book

[jaysee]

So was I. I'm glad for you, wetpet, that the responses where mild.

[Kaz]

I was surprised the responses were as calm as they were to be honest.

I don't think you offended anyone, but one someone has a counterpoint or just plan disagrees - it doesn't mean they need lecturing

But you've gained a lot of credibility in my book

I agree to the responses being more mild than I thought.

Just try not to defend everything you say and make a million responses. That annoys people.

[jackson17]

Ya I honeslty thought a flame war was going to be started.

[Wetpets]

Offence. Flame war. etc... VERY last thing on my mind

Maybe I was trying to make TOO good an impression....

Anyways - It's all out there now (like granny's laundry)

[Kaz]

Ya I honeslty thought a flame war was going to be started.

I'm just glad various members weren't there.

That would have been a blood bath.

For various reasons.

[Gemini]

Good on you for apologising! It's difficult sometimes to portray things like passion and excitement in text without it being misconstrued.

[Wetpets]

Good on you for apologising! It's difficult sometimes to portray things like passion and excitement in text without it being misconstrued.

Cheers. So glad you get me.

I'm here because this forum excites and stimulates me! Did not mean any harm... just so passionate about what I've learned so far!

63 tanks and counting (more on monday!)

[Mith]

Cheers. So glad you get me.

I'm here because this forum excites and stimulates me! Did not mean any harm... just so passionate about what I've learned so far!

63 tanks and counting (more on monday!)

When ya say 63 tanks, you forgot to mention you're a fish store right? LOL

[bushwhacker]

we have all gotten a bit too excited in our posts... slow down man

[Wild Turkey]

we have all gotten a bit too excited in our posts... slow down man

I agree just slow down, re-read and double check info before you post it and things will go a lot smoother for you. I do it always, sometimes its easy to offend when we do not mean to.

Dont worry very few people around here hold grudges, big of you to apologize

[jaysee]

I'm just glad various members weren't there.

That would have been a blood bath.

For various reasons.

Kaz, no calling people out :hmm3grin2orange:

[Kaz]

Kaz, no calling people out :hmm3grin2orange:
I edited the offensive parts out!

Lets just say there are specific people who stand by their points morefirmly than others. Not that that is a bad quality it's just that such defensive posts make these specific members respond sharply back and can cause minor combustions inside their minds.

Which I repeat is not a bad quality, they simply know their stuff and are pround of their knowledge.

[jaysee]

Oh, I thought a mod did it. Good for you.

[Wild Turkey]

I edited the offensive parts out!

Lets just say there are specific people who stand by their points morefirmly than others. Not that that is a bad quality it's just that such defensive posts make these specific members respond sharply back and can cause minor combustions inside their minds.

Which I repeat is not a bad quality, they simply know their stuff and are pround of their knowledge.

Hey, I was there!!!!:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:

Lol no, seriously Im glad i didnt come to mind as argumentative, but I feel everyone at AC will stand by their opinions to an extent. We are all hardheaded but most of us not unreachable or unreasonable :hmm3grin2orange:

[Kaz]

Oh, I thought a mod did it. Good for you.

William and I have a bad habit of simultaneously editing/ deleting of my offensive posts. I change the text and moments later he deletes it and informs via PM.

I would've prefered Specific members but whatev.

I edit my posts quite often due to my filter slipping off every now and again.
(I use infliction, tone of voice and odd sounds to speak IRL and most of friends know not to take anything I say seriously)

I find it weird because every time I call somebody out I get a finger wave by the mods but like three rep boosts. So I can't tell which positive reinforcement to follow.:sconfused:

Hey, I was there!!!!

Lol no, seriously Im glad i didnt come to mind as argumentative, but I feel everyone at AC will stand by their opinions to an extent. We are all hardheaded but most of us not unreachable or unreasonable :hmm3grin2orange:

You were the worst!:hmm3grin2orange:

I didn't understand why you kept ragging on the dye point though.

[jaysee]

Oh so that's what the rep points are all about! :hmm3grin2orange:

I'm guilty of editing a lot as well, though aparently not for the same reasons:hmm3grin2orange:

[Wild Turkey]

The processes are the same, injections

There are other methods for dying fishies, but they dont work nearly as well from what I have seen.

Overall, the motivation for injections is the same (if its not to help a particular species recover from endangerment like suggested) its to sell more fish, whether injecting dyes or hormones.

I dont feel that injecting fish is something that needs to be done or should be condoned except under extreme circumstances. Commerical breeding and dying of fish do not quality, In my humble opinion.

Example. I give my dog her rabies shots so that she does not contract rabies.
I would not give her a shot to make her more attractive, her puppies more attractive, her produce more puppies or produce puppies faster. I dont feel the ends justifies the means.

Some may disagree, and I encourage them to voice their opinions on the matter as well. Everyone is entitled an opinion, and I think if we all remember that minor incidents like today can be avoided fairly easily.

As for rep, I will give rep to a user that disagrees with me or anyone but does it tactfully, which is most important. :D

[Kaz]

Oh so that's what the rep points are all about! :hmm3grin2orange:

I'm guilty of editing a lot as well, though aparently not for the same reasons:hmm3grin2orange:
It's a battle of wits between myself and Will.

Though with him being the admin it's hard to win. (Though getting editor position gives me hope.)

Turk said some stuff but I don't want to quote all of it.

IDK, for me beacuse it increases the fertility of the children, as a one time procedure I think it has merit. Plus It should be stressed as a last resort. Like, going through every effort to get the species to breed before using the drugs.

[Little Embers]

With respect to everyone, this thread was graciously posted by Wetpets to give an apology and I think if the discussion is going to continue and go over similar ground again, I think it should be done in the other thread if need be.

Sorry for interrupting.

[Sharon]

Great point, Little Embers!:ssmile:

[gm72]

With respect to everyone, this thread was graciously posted by Wetpets to give an apology and I think if the discussion is going to continue and go over similar ground again, I think it should be done in the other thread if need be.

Sorry for interrupting.

Agreed. Let's not hijack a strong thread.

Nice job, Wetpets.

Thanks to the rest of you as well.

[Wetpets]

When ya say 63 tanks, you forgot to mention you're a fish store right? LOL

Nope - they're in my garage... thumbs2:

[Wild Turkey]

Nope - they're in my garage... thumbs2:

Start a picture threadthumbs2:

[Wetpets]

The processes are the same, injections...

As for rep, I will give rep to a user that disagrees with me or anyone but does it tactfully, which is most important. :D

Look, I'm against dying of fish: and I have to disagree (REP +1?) that the processes are the same. I deliver one dose to the dorsal muscle of the fish, where dyed fish are repeatedly 'stabbed'... like comparing a pinprick to multiple gunshot wounds. The hormone is a synthesised denominator of the fish's biology, where dye is very often (if not always) toxic.

I have difficult species that do not breed readily. The AquaSpawn is a last resort where I just can't get the final breeding cue right. (6 pairs breeding Angels, glowlights, 5 varieties of guppy, columbians, misc livebearers and rainbows - all bred naturally).

A side effect (if you like) of the hormone is that any species injected will subsequently spawn naturally without injection and after the hormone dissapates from the body (72 hours).

Also, to be clear I did post to get your opinions, and boy did I! I apreciate the points of view - as I was initially as against this product as many of you, but have since seen the good it can do.

Boils down to responsibility.

(EDIT) - aw hell. should have put this in the other thread!

[Taurus]

Agreed. Let's not hijack a strong thread.

Nice job, Wetpets.


Yeah, apology accepted. Let's move on. :22:

[Red]

Its cool:22: I knew where you were coming from and why.

[Wild Turkey]

WP, all i said was the process was the same, "injections". I still feel that statement is correct.

If you wanna discuss it via pm feel free to fire away. But I agree with Taurus its time to let this die

[Wetpets]

Start a picture threadthumbs2:

OK!!! I'll take some pics over the weekend

[Wild Turkey]

OK!!! I'll take some pics over the weekend

If you want some popularity points, thats the way to get them fast LOL

people here eat up pic threads

[Wetpets]

WP, all i said was the process was the same, "injections". I still feel that statement is correct.

If you wanna discuss it via pm feel free to fire away. But I agree with Taurus its time to let this die

coolio :19: