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TowBoater
05-27-2009, 10:40 PM
I don't have much time anymore but I do have the required time to maintain a betta I believe. I am gonna plan the perfect sanctuary for one lucky male. I have about 2 years of experience in about every type of fish so I know the basics of the ordeal. I am gonna make it a 10g. Help me plan it fellas! Here are some of the basic equipment I am leaning towards...

This small canister filter. I wanna be able to control the flow as a betta likes lower flow b/c it is a labyrinth fish. I was going to use as much biological filtration as I can and that requires live plants. Here is the filter I am leaning towards.
http://www.bigalsonline.com/BigAlsUS/ctl3684/cp17290/si2074670/cl0/tomrapidminicanisterfilterc80

Quite simply stealth heaters are top notch and will have my business once again. They have never failed me.
http://www.bigalsonline.com/BigAlsUS/ctl3684/cp18534/si1380061/cl0/aquariumsystemsvisithermstealthheater50watt

I have a descent light to use on it already. It is a 56 watt CF light but it's older so it is good for plants I believe.

I have never used CO2 in a planted aquarium but I do believe I will try it this time.
http://www.bigalsonline.com/BigAlsUS/ctl3684/cp18478/si1501563/cl0/plantgroco2naturalsystem

I am leaning towards eco complete.

This right here will of course be my first purchase LOL!
http://www.bigalsonline.com/BigAlsUS/ctl3684/cp18538/si1380887/cl0/aquariumpharmaceuticalsfreshwatermastertestkit

jackson17
05-27-2009, 10:48 PM
What about a couple shrimp to? Something for the bottom. Congrats on getting back into the fish scene.

TowBoater
05-27-2009, 10:50 PM
Now I get into decor including driftwood and plant choices.

I think I want 2 or 3 pieces of this.
http://www.aquariumguys.com/driftwood10.html

I want this to be in the tank as a ground cover..
http://www.aquariumplants.com/product_p/spec15.htm

Here are some more plants I am interested in..
http://www.aquariumplants.com/Tiger_Lotus_Green_Nymphaea_zenkeri_p/begin05.htm
http://www.aquariumplants.com/product_p/moss1.htm
http://www.aquariumplants.com/Sword_Ozelot_Sword_Echinodorus_ozelot_p/sw041.htm
http://www.aquariumplants.com/Sword_Indian_Red_Echinodorus_Indian_Red_p/sw999.htm
http://www.aquariumplants.com/Spiralis_Cryptocoryne_spiralis_p/cr063.htm
http://www.aquariumplants.com/Retrospiralis_Cryptocoryne_retrospiralis_p/cr062.htm

TowBoater
05-27-2009, 10:51 PM
Maybe some shrimp. Don't forget, the betta is a carnivore and may try to eat them.

Z Fish Man
05-27-2009, 10:58 PM
Might want to go with snails instead of shrimp or a small school of otos.

TowBoater
05-27-2009, 10:59 PM
Here are a few bettas I am interested in. Of course it will be a while before I can get him b/c I will have to cycle the tank and all.

http://bettysplendens.com/articles/page.imp?articleid=3070

This guy is breathtaking but I don't want to keep a male and female together all the time. He would kill her.

http://bettysplendens.com/articles/page.imp?articleid=3036

jackson17
05-27-2009, 11:02 PM
True, but if you go enough decor they should be safe. Snail might go good to. Nice bettas lol.

William
05-27-2009, 11:08 PM
You could alway add a couple of females to split the aggression between them.

Ashley
05-27-2009, 11:44 PM
Don't get shrimp! I put three cherry shrimp in with my betta and he ate them in no time. He got a good meal, but it was kind of an expensive meal!

jaysee
05-27-2009, 11:51 PM
This guy is breathtaking but I don't want to keep a male and female together all the time. He would kill her.

She could just as easily kill him, if not moreso.

bushwhacker
05-28-2009, 12:02 AM
you want a perfect betta habitat? sams been in this 55 for a year yo cant see him here lol but he's in my pics
http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n438/bushwhacker_01/5-27-09001.jpg

TowBoater
05-28-2009, 04:14 AM
I basically want bettas. So you think maybe a male and two females would be better? Wouldn't the females fight?

OscarFan
05-28-2009, 04:22 AM
I basically want bettas. So you think maybe a male and two females would be better? Wouldn't the females fight?
To my understanding the females will kill the male seeing they are bigger and then kill each other. The only time Ive heard bettas being mixed is with multiple females in large tanks. keep in mind Bettas natural habitat are full of tons of plants. And could be 6 inches from another fish and not know it.

TowBoater
05-28-2009, 04:26 AM
Ok so just a male is how I should go.

Sarkazmo
05-29-2009, 06:51 PM
Kuli, I use Eco-Complete and LOVE it! It's the only thing that's saved this batch of nearly dead Dwarf Hair Grass that I got from a bad eBay seller. Now that it's got EC it's actually starting to spread out when before I was just waiting for it to completely die off.

From you plans it looks like you're gonna have a really nice little home for some lucky Betta. Good luck and keep us posted!

Sark

Northernguy
05-29-2009, 07:16 PM
I have a male in a ten gallon with neons and an apple snail.Its a very happy community.lol
Mixing betas will help you to see why they are called fighting fish.It gets ugly.
The only time you put a female and male together is when she is ready to lay eggs.After the eggs are dropped you must remove her or they will fight.The male will take care of the eggs until they hatch.If you leave the fry they get eaten.

TowBoater
05-29-2009, 10:13 PM
I just don't want much in this tank at all. I want it basic and want to mainly focus on the plant life.

DrNic
05-30-2009, 12:54 AM
Kuli_Loach,
I bought 2 of those CO2 setups a while ago and don't use them anymore. If you want one drop me a PM. At the moment they're just in my drawer collecting dust and I'm sure I can beat that website price.

Sounds like a great tank overall though thumbs2:

William
05-30-2009, 01:50 AM
I have always housed bettas females together without any problem. Keeping 2-3 females with one male in a 10 gallon never caused any problem at all and the only times I had problem with aggression between females was when I got a latent male as a female.

Northernguy
05-30-2009, 02:10 AM
I have always housed bettas females together without any problem. Keeping 2-3 females with one male in a 10 gallon never caused any problem at all and the only times I had problem with aggression between females was when I got a latent male as a female.
Either there is something in your water or you put yours in a trance.:hmm3grin2orange:
I have never had success with them in a mixed tank.I find the females more like wolves the way they hunt.My two almost killed my apple snail. lol
I don't have them anymore.They may have calmed down a bit with more fish in the tank but I didn't wait to find out.lol

William
05-30-2009, 02:34 AM
Perhaps I do. Or its the way I like to decorate.

Because I have kept males together without any problems (small border disputes) in 25 gallon tanks. I would never recommend that because I know how aggressive they can be. But I never had any problem or seen any aggression in females. Perhaps swedish Betts have been bred to be nicer.

Northernguy
05-30-2009, 02:38 AM
lol I think ours are just more ornery because of the roads up here and them stupid little cups.I think I am getting another beta tomorrow as well.I just don't know what to put in with it? lol I don't want neons or cardinals though.
I'm looking forward to seeing what is in stock!

TowBoater
05-30-2009, 03:54 AM
So you think like 3 females and one male would be ok William? You are talking to the one that has successfully kept a Crayfish with Mbuna and the one that has kept a Bichir in a community tank, LOL! I am willing to take risks if there is a god possibility of results.

TowBoater
05-30-2009, 04:05 AM
Oh dang guys! I am fixing to order I think! I think I am fixing to order a filter, stress coat, test kit, and some eco complete! O dang! This is getting exciting! First 70$ I have spent on fish in a LONG time!

OscarFan
05-30-2009, 04:21 AM
So you think like 3 females and one male would be ok William? You are talking to the one that has successfully kept a Crayfish with Mbuna and the one that has kept a Bichir in a community tank, LOL! I am willing to take risks if there is a god possibility of results.
The females are less violent then the males but the male will still attack them. and in a tank that small the females would probably even fight. Females may mix but a male never will in a tank that small. But cories or shrimp are good choices and if you had a nice variety of shrimp that would be a site to see.

bluebluecow
05-30-2009, 06:03 AM
now you see when we 1st started out with trops we had a hexagonal fish r fun tank (bad I know now) and we kept in there 1 male and 3 females all fine no probs until 3 yrs down the line when the male died then the females all started to go one at a time, It was a pain of a tank the filter kept stopping and had to buy several pumps.

Liz

TowBoater
05-30-2009, 11:40 AM
I talked myself out of rushing into ordering. I still need to think it out rather this is what I need to do or not.

Fraoch
05-30-2009, 06:59 PM
This small canister filter. I wanna be able to control the flow as a betta likes lower flow b/c it is a labyrinth fish. I was going to use as much biological filtration as I can and that requires live plants. Here is the filter I am leaning towards.
http://www.bigalsonline.com/BigAlsUS/ctl3684/cp17290/si2074670/cl0/tomrapidminicanisterfilterc80

This is an interesting filter, I've been researching it as it's the most affordable canister filter out there. Although it's $44.99 in Canada, how's that for a price jump!

Anyway I'm curious why you're interested in this. Personal preference for canister filters? The reviews on it are mixed.

Also given its size I can't see how it would hold that much more biological media than an AC HOB.

Yes, there will be more current, but you can turn down an AC 20 to 33 GPH and redistribute the flow with a DIY flow diffuser.

TowBoater
05-30-2009, 07:58 PM
I have always heard good things on the TOM filters and I am not quite sure why I want it, I just do LOL!

William
05-30-2009, 08:02 PM
So you think like 3 females and one male would be ok William? You are talking to the one that has successfully kept a Crayfish with Mbuna and the one that has kept a Bichir in a community tank, LOL! I am willing to take risks if there is a god possibility of results.

Hehe I have done both the other things you mention as well. Worls well if the bichir/crayfish is kept well fed.

I think it could work well provided of course you use a lot of plants. It always have for me. But then again in sweden female bettas are usually kept together in the store as well so...

Fraoch
05-30-2009, 08:07 PM
I have always heard good things on the TOM filters and I am not quite sure why I want it, I just do LOL!

It does seem pretty cool! I'd love to be able to play around with a canister filter and not have to call the bank for a loan first.:jumpyellow:

The comments I've seen on it were that the piping is flimsy and the filter feeds biological media first, mechanical media second! The was also a comment about occasional leaks.

However the filter is dead quiet and uses 12V.

http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/blog.php?bt=2923