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William
05-17-2009, 01:51 AM
Here is todays news. Tomorrow is sunday so I might not post anything unless something very interesting comes up.
Two popular, and one not so popular, Malawi cichlids finally described by science

(http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aquariumforum/../news/lib/281)New dirt eater, Gymnogeophagus cichlid has been described.

(http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aquariumforum/../news/lib/282)Canada takes European seal ban to WTO (http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aquariumforum/../news/lib/283)

(http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aquariumforum/../news/lib/283)Television presenter on trial for pouring shampoo into aquarium

(http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aquariumforum/../news/lib/284)

(http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aquariumforum/../news/lib/283)

Little Embers
05-17-2009, 07:25 AM
If that TV Presenter is acquitted, I will be very saddened and disheartened. It was a deliberate case of cruelty!! Please keep us updated on this if possible William, I would be very interested to know the outcome...Thank You for the article.


“The allegations are this experiment caused the fish’s fear and suffering…but expert witnesses told the court on May 12 that this was not the case,” he said. “Fish are killed by suffocation in industrial fisheries and we throw live lobsters into boiling water, but we don’t press charges against fisherman or restaurant owners.”
Please bear in mind that I am not trying to start a debate here, but actually this very last "Quote" made in that article, is one that in a fashion was recently discussed in a thread between jaysee, myself and others.....Where do we draw the line in respect to the law and animal cruelty.

William
05-17-2009, 03:58 PM
I am a trained lawyer in Sweden (neighbouring Denmark) allthough I don't live in sweden or practice law. MY guess is that she won't get acquitted. The key word in the law is "unnecessary" cruelty so to be acquitted she needs to prove that she could have gotten the same effect in another way. The arguments about fish in resturants etc is not valid (which doesn't mean that the court might not incorrectly listen to them anyway.) If a resturant kill a fish in an uncessesary like as an example in the Japanese style of cutting them up alive the resturant would be convicted as well.

This is my legal analysis. The outcome can off course be different. I will try to report on the outcome when there is one.

Red
05-17-2009, 04:02 PM
She should be convicted and sent to jail, if she through a dog into a tub of shampoo and it died, she would be!

troy
05-17-2009, 04:26 PM
Those were interesting articles.

Little Embers
05-17-2009, 07:49 PM
I am a trained lawyer in Sweden (neighbouring Denmark) allthough I don't live in sweden or practice law. MY guess is that she won't get acquitted. The key word in the law is "unnecessary" cruelty so to be acquitted she needs to prove that she could have gotten the same effect in another way. The arguments about fish in resturants etc is not valid (which doesn't mean that the court might not incorrectly listen to them anyway.) If a resturant kill a fish in an uncessesary like as an example in the Japanese style of cutting them up alive the resturant would be convicted as well.

This is my legal analysis. The outcome can off course be different. I will try to report on the outcome when there is one.

Thanks for that William. Let's hope that your guess is correct!