I am done!

[Red]

My 75g has been having massive of die offs! I am thinking of just getting out of the hobby, I have lost my best fish and my oldest fish. I have lost about 10-15 fish all together, and I don't know what is going on. I have been doing 2 W/C a week and I have 2 aquaclear 110's on there! Nothing has been added for about two weeks, but all my fish are dying. Not in any of my other tanks. I swear, this makes me want to quit the hobby all together:spam: :help:

[Sir Tristen]

Man, Red, that sounds tough. I hate losing fish when I'm doing all I know how. Sorry for your losses, but don't you think that getting out of the hobby would be a bigger overall loss? Not to mention losing your wisdom here on the AC!

[Red]

I don't no, it just gets hard when you start loosing money. Lost 4 rams, both breeding paires, 2 albino cories, 1 choclate gouarami, 2 guppies, 1 apisto borelli and loosing the other one now, it is dying, and same with the other female ram I was growing out. I just don't no what to do, and damn.

[Gayle]

What was added? You may have introduced some form of parasite into the tank, maybe a bacteria that you can not see.

[Red]

I added two brown acuras, which I didn't even want. But I don't think they did it, because there still alive!

[Gayle]

Humm. Well it could be a virus, maybe the Acuras are only carriers. The water is good shape right? What have you treated with?

[Red]

The water is fine, two W/C a week, same thing I have been doing for the last year. Now all the sudden in my main tank, where my fav. fish are, they start to die but in no other tank... UGH! Treated with nothing, because I don't no what going on!

[troy]

Maybe a contaminant was introduced to the tank.

[robflanker]

I'm sorry to hear it Red. Instead of quitting maybe just scale down how many different things you having going at once.

[Sharon]

Gosh Red, I'm so sorry! I won't ask the usual questions because I know I don't need to. Just a thought though...sometimes in the spring, water supplies get treated with extra chlorine, or other changes are made. Maybe check with the water supplier to see if there's anything there....

[Gayle]

What are the symptoms? Are they just dying all of the sudden, or do they display anything before they die?

Something has to have be introduced into the tank. If we cant figure out what exactly, maybe you should treat anyhow just to give it a try.

[William]

Very sorry to hear that. Must be very rough. Try to think about everything positive the aquarium hobby has given you and what it will be giving you again once you gotten through this.

Sorry that I got nothing wiser than that to tell you.

[Jaster]

I had a problem similar to this not too long ago and I just wasn't sure what the problem was. I could find (or think I found) a particular symptom but the fish wouldn't have other system to fit any given illness. After about a dozen losses I started medicating the tank with melafix and pimafix. I'm still not really sure what was happening in my tank but the die off did stop and the tank has been good since. It might be a good place to start if it's a bacterial illness (what I suspected in my tank). I do think a good place to start would be a good broad antbiotic.

Sorry to hear about all your losses... it can be very frustrating. I hope you don't give up the hobby. I hope between all of us we can help figure this out and get your tank back to health!

[Red]

sometimes they just die, or sometimes they just wither away until i end there suffering. I just euth. a fish that was 4 years old :( Maybe I should just treat with parasite meds and hope for the best. I am loosing the hardy fish too! I just don't no anymore :(

[Red]

sorry for the double post,
I don't think its the water, because in all of my other tanks they are fine! I almost killed a loach, I am doing a W/C and I took out a driftwood and he was still in it, and I found him laying on the towel. I think he is fine, he was still wet and was only out for about 5 mins...

[Gayle]

That is odd. I know you take such good care of you finned friends. Well I think I would do this:

Do a large w/c
Up the temp a tad
Add a little salt
Treat with Melafix and Pimafix

and see what happens in the next few days.

[robflanker]

Yikes! Good save tho.

Do what you have to do right now RS and then do something un-fish related. Take your mind off it, and maybe you'll see something that you missed before. You know far far far more about this than I do but sometimes when I'm doing something I should be good at and mess up I force myself to take a break. Kinda reset the head and come back to and then you have a 'duh' moment.

Like I said you know far more than me, but the cliche "can't see the forest for the trees" sometimes works.

Chin up mate

[Red]

I am doing a W/C now, and I can't add salt because of the loaches and cories right? I think I have Melafix, but no other meds, haven't had a problem with anything in abotu 2 years :(

[troy]

The salt would probably make the problem worse.

[Red]

Yeah, thats what I thought, since the loaches and cories are scaleless, but gayle didn't know that. I just added melafix, can I add some parasite meds too? Or would that mess each other up?

thanks everyone for the help, I really appreciate it

[travie]

Make sure you are aerating the water with an air pump while treating with Melafix. Don't get discouraged, fish die sometimes for reasons that we cannot help even if we knew the cause. For all we know fish could have genetic disorders that effect them and their brain, which could lead to early death.

[ILuvMyGoldBarb]

Are you dealing with Clown Loaches? If so, salt is not an issue if you slowly raise the salinity. However, I wouldn't throw salt in without knowing what is happening. How long has this tank been running?

[Red]

Make sure you are aerating the water with an air pump while treating with Melafix. Don't get discouraged, fish die sometimes for reasons that we cannot help even if we knew the cause. For all we know fish could have genetic disorders that effect them and their brain, which could lead to early death.


yeah I understand that, but I don't understand 14 fish that die! And I am dealing with kuhli loaches, striata loaches, horseface loaches..

[Gayle]

Darn it. Yep no salt for them! Sorry! Humm then maybe stress coat (or something with aloe). I know some do not think it works, some do, but I do not think it could hurt.

[Taurus]

Hang in there Red. Melafix is a good place to start. Hmm...could a parasite take down that many fish so quickly?

[Red]

IDK if it could. I am feeding garlic based food, and food that is soaked in garlic, so IDK about that. I think I am going to get some parasite meds..

[Lady Hobbs]

It's really tough when you start losing fish and can't get a handle on the reason. I mentioned those new rainbows I got last month that were ill and cost me about 40 others in the tank with them. Last week I purchased 22 more neons and have lost most of them, as well. Annoying AND costly. If you know your water is fine then you have to look elsewhere (as I am) and next I will be treating for a bacterial infection.

Red, I'm really sorry you're having this problem (and me) but we will get to the bottom of this. You may have to really check out those fish for gill flukes or anything that appears weird with them. Mine are showing a bit of a white spot on them and gasping at the surface. Same problem I had a couple weeks ago.

[Red]

Oh yeah, I lost an oto yesterday too :(
Yeah hobbs, it just makes you want to pull your hair out! I am sorry you are having a problem like me, and I hope you can figure yours out. The only thing I saw is an eye to one of my rams is raised a bit and looks like popeye, but I am not sure if it is. :(

[ILuvMyGoldBarb]

How long has the tank been established Red?

[Gayle]

Well the Melafix and Pimafix together work pretty well against most bacteria. If you do not see any worms, sores, or fugual growths all I can think is bacteria, or maybe some chemical or something. The stress coat or w/e will help with the slime coat and just give them kinda like a glove to keep good stuff in, and help keep bad stuff out. I really do not know if you could add anything else. Sorry.

[Red]

I add stress coat every W/C so I just did it now. It was seeded off of another tank that was up for about 4 years, I just moved the ac 110 to this tank, and lightly stocked it, and then added fish over the next 3 months. All my readings are fine (first water test in forever) and PH is even the same. I am going to add parasite meds and if that doesn't work, ill let nature take its coarse..

[Wild Turkey]

Sorry to hear this red :( Very frustrating im sure.

I wouldnt gung-ho it with meds. If you are reduced to guess and testing with meds ( a last resort of last resorts ) try one at a time, if it doesnt work, remove it, wait a few days and try another. Personally I would be researching and checking for signs of any and all diseases, regardless of how rare, see if anything clicks.

Sorry but thats the best i have for you at the moment.

[Gayle]

This site has some pretty good info if you can see any other symptoms in the next few days

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[Red]

Yeah, I never used meds, haven't needed too. But the thing is, the fish are dying, and by the time I am done testing with meds, all the fish are going to be dead. Another cory is acting lethargic.... I am going to do melafix and a parasite med...

[ILuvMyGoldBarb]

Have you thought about adding Carbon to the filter? If there is something in there it will take it out.

[Northernguy]

Sorry to hear it Red! You can't quit now though!

What about breaking down the tank and cleaning everything out!
Its a good way to find something that doesn't belong!
The meds may help but if you don't know what your treating???.
What about your filters?Are you using anything new?
Have you rinsed them out lately?
Are you using the same dechlorinator?

[travie]

Its a conspiracy... Do you have any cats?

How do you do water changes? Bucket? Python? Possibly something contaminated bucket or python, and entered your tank; and in the process the contaminate was cleaned off the bucket or python.

[Lady Hobbs]

Melafix and Pimafix is the route I will be going. Figure it can't hurt them any.

[Mith]

Hate to hear about losing all those fish! I'm not unfamiliar to your dilemma having recently lost probably 70% of my original community tank! I quit posting the losses because I was sounding like a broken record.

I know I dont really have credibility yet necause I'm a rookie to this hobby....BUT, if there are no visible signs of illness, and your parameters are normal as well as your water temps....seems that medicating the tank would be the next logical step. Not sure which med is which, but maybe treating for parasites may be a good start? Is your tank temp where its supposed to be?

Dont pull the plug! I'm sure all the pleasure your fish have given you outweighs the occasional die-offs.

[Algenco]

Sounds like internal parasites Treat them with metro for about 5 days. If that doesn't work , hit them with the pig wormer (Levasole).

[Red]

Yeah, if they keep dying, after the melafix and pimafix, then carbon is the last hope. Nothing got into the buckets, because I try to wash them everytime and be careful nothing gets in there. And I use all the same stuff for cleaning all 15 aquariums/killie boxes

I just got back from the petstore, and I lost the last ram and cory has died. :(
NG, I will break down and clean the tank once everything has died.

Ugh, just frustrating and really kills all the want in keeping fish.

thanks everyone for all the help and support..

Algenco, what are those things? links or something :)

[Algenco]

Metronidazole
Levamisol can be found at a Farm supply (Pig wormer)
flubenol

those are the most effective drug for treating internal parasites
flubenol is the best but hard to find


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you might try the medicated foods if they are still eating

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[Red]

thanks guys, I will look into it. Lights off for now, all fish alive are looking ok, did not feed today, will update tomorrow about the casualities..

[jaysee]

I had a similar experience. I put the tank away and haven't touched it since:ssmile: . I was planning to try and use it again, but today I bought a new one instead.

[Deleted User]

Hi Red.

Just a thought mate.

Do you feed newlife spectrum ?

If so check it make sure it don't smell different than it usually does.

My LFS had a bad batch in not long ago and re called it all.

The pellets in the tubes had some how all got damp and the food turned moldy in the tubs.

Just thought you would like to know.:ssmile:

[Sir Tristen]

Wow Red! It sounds like things are still going tough. I am sorry to hear it. People who do things right shouldn't have to deal w/ this crap:spam: I hope everything works out here soon. I'm sort of a newb, so I don't have any suggestions that haven't already been given, but I will let you know that I am confident that you are not to blame for this disaster.:22:

[Red]

Hi Red.

Just a thought mate.

Do you feed newlife spectrum ?

If so check it make sure it don't smell different than it usually does.

My LFS had a bad batch in not long ago and re called it all.

The pellets in the tubes had some how all got damp and the food turned moldy in the tubs.

Just thought you would like to know.:ssmile:

interesting, Ill check that out..
thanks CF and that worries me, because I haven't fed live in a while, I am making a culture outside so I have just been feeding NLS and wafers..
hmmm
and thanks sir, i appreciate:22: it

[Deleted User]

interesting, Ill check that out..
thanks CF and that worries me, because I haven't fed live in a while, I am making a culture outside so I have just been feeding NLS and wafers..
hmmm


It may not be that Red. But it could be a possibility. I really hope you can find out & cure your problem.:ssmile:

[Gayle]

So how are things going today Red?????????

[Northernguy]

Have you tried feeding them fresh minced garlic!
I cannot get NLS foods up here so I feed mine fresh stuff!
I sure hope you find out whats up with your tank.
It is only one tank isn't it?
Are any of your decorations damaged at all and maybe exposing some metal of any kind?
Just a thought!:11:

[Sharon]

Good thought, Ray! That may be something to consider. I couldn't keep a Clown alive in my 55gallon. I had silk plants containing plastic coated wire. Now, I have all live plants, and my Clowns are thriving! Red, compare the deco in all your tanks, and see if there is anything problematic in the tank....

[fishlover49]

Sure sorry to hear about your fish, Red. :scry: That is so hard to take when something like that happens. Please don't give up, though. Things will get better even though it sure doesn't seem like it right now....:scry:

How are things today?

[Taurus]

The AC is a great place. Red, you started this thread at 6:42 pm yesterday. Since then you've had 52 replies from people trying to help out. Can't say we don't care. :22:

[Red]

The AC is a great place. Red, you started this thread at 6:42 pm yesterday. Since then you've had 52 replies from people trying to help out. Can't say we don't care. :22:

and I got multiple pms from people, thats why I love this place. Thanks for all the help.

I lost one albino cory and my last apisto. Now all I have left is a a garra, some danios some guppies a bolivian ram and some loaches and 2female bettas. I went to having a full and thriving tank, to nothing. If I loose any of my zebra loaches, I am done with the tank.

ugh it sucks:scry:

and the only thing thats fake in the tank, is the filters and the heater. I already switched out heaters too :(

[robflanker]

Yikes im sorry Red - how long before those meds will start potentially doing anything?

I like this place cos i feel a sense of community. one person needs help and everyone is there; its re-assuring to know that if and when it happens to me people will help out

[Red]

yeah, I just hate needing advice, because I am the one usually to give it, but it is reassuring that if i need it, its there.

I think they should be kicking in now, and i have been feeding garlic food for a while... I have even soaked it before...

[Deleted User]

Just be aware that most people with MTS ALWAYS have one problem tank.

It is not unusual and not a reason to give up a hobby you enjoy.

Been there done that many times and I am still here.

You will get through this Red.thumbs2:

[Red]

Yeah it just sucks, this is my fav. tank by far :( Wish it could have been any other ones...

[tim k]

I hate seeing posts like this , but try not to give up.
It seems like everything has been covered so how about a long shot.

Could you have stray voltage in the tank from your heater shorting out?
Just trying to think of something not covered yet.

Tim k

[Red]

I don't think so, because I have switched heaters, and plugs. How would I check for it?

[Deleted User]

Yeah it just sucks, this is my fav. tank by far :( Wish it could have been any other ones...Red you would be just as gutted if it was any of the others. I know that. :ssmile:

[Red]

Yeah, true but I just want my fish to survive :( I think before this, I have only last 1 fish in the last 4 months, and that was due to old age..

[tim k]

I don't think so, because I have switched heaters, and plugs. How would I check for it?


I really don't know how you check for stray voltage but I have read were it has wiped out tanks.

If you have changed your heater then that is likely not it.

Tim k

[Deleted User]

Yeah, true but I just want my fish to survive :( I think before this, I have only last 1 fish in the last 4 months, and that was due to old age..

Ok how about taking the remaining fish out.

Put them in a bucket with a heater & bubbler. Take out all the water. Strip down your filter chuck all the media out scrub everything and then re seed with water & media from your other tanks ?Then put the fish back in without adding any of the water from the bucket. Just an idea and yes I HAD TO do this once and it worked.:ssmile:

[Red]

yeah, if I start loosing loaches or my garra, then it will come down to that. thanks cf and tim for the help!

[tim k]

Have you changed anything lately , maybe water conditioner , filter media , anything?
Seems so odd .

I wish you the best of luck .

Tim K

[Red]

nothing, thats what is driving me nuts. Just nothing to point the finger at..

[Northernguy]

Maybe it was your maid spraying aerosol in your room!lol
Sorry Red! Its a terrible thing that has happened to your tank and I can't figure out what either!Other then your maid of course.

[Red]

yeah, I just don't no, thanks everyone!

[Gayle]

Sorry that you lost more. That stinks. I would say that if the the loaches are you favs, I would put them in a hospital tank. This is just really crazy. I have been looking all over the net and in my books for a cause, and I am finding nada. I do keep seeing over and over introduction of chemicals, like cleaners, bugsprays, etc can cause this sort of thing. Did the bug guy come and spray? IDK I am still sorta leaning towards some sort of bacteria. I really hope the meds kick in soon. I also thought maybe that you could take the loaches and cories out, put them in a hospital tank, and then try the salt in the tank, just in case there is some sort of crazy parasite running lose in the tank.

Was all the decor, gravel, rocks, etc aquarium safe? I just read that some gravel/rock have been tested and contained arsenic, and that it takes a long time for it to seep out and contaminate the water enough to kill fish.

[Red]

Yeah, thanks for all the help gayle, and thanks for looking for me! And the thing that really bugs me is that my choclate gourami is still alive, and those are known for dying for no reason. The thing is right now, I don't have a hospital tank (made it into a fuzzy clawed shrimp tank) because nothing has happen to me. In my quarnteen tank, I have some shellies I was going to add to another tank in there, and I just got them right before this all went down. The other thing is, I want to keep this to one tank, even thinking about picking up another python and buckets, in fear this wipes out all my fish. I am starting to notice it hits the cories hard, as in another one is hitting the hay, but its twitching around the tank :(

[Gayle]

Goodness. I really wish we could figure this out.Is there anyone else there who may have accidentally done something? Maybe its time to bust out the bright light on them.....INTERROGATION!!! No I am kidding. I would imagine the cories are taking it harder due to their size and skin. Then again they are bottom feeders. How about putting the fish in a rubbermaid tote, pull out all of the substrate and vacumn really good. For that matter pull out everything, plants and all. Do a huge water change then add the fish back and continue the meds. See if that helps. If it was something leaking from the gravel that would work I think...........

Here is one of those articles

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Excuse my rambling. LOL It helps me think. :)

[Red]

Its fine, your rambling helps me ramble and puts ideas into my head! I am thinking about doing the rubbermaid, but I want to get the meds a few days to try to kick in, before I do that. If I can't figure out whats wrong, I think I will just move to all 5gal and below tanks for killies. The thing is, I bought 50 bags of this sand, and use it in all of my tanks. So, I don't see that being a problem. hmmm ideas ideas..

[Gayle]

Post a pic so we can stare at it too. Maybe something will jump out at us. LOL IDK What brand was the sand?

[Red]

um idk, sand ohh some kind of name sand.. oh yeah! caribsea sand.. (not the sw stuff) I will post a picture later tonight..
thanks again gayle..

[Little Embers]

I can't add anything to the great advise already given by the caring members, so just saying how sorry I am that you are having all this trouble and fish losses Red Severum!

Seems to be an epidemic at the moment of members experiencing similar problems.

[Kaz]

You can't leave Red! I'm pregnant!

:hmm3grin2orange:

No but seriously, best wishes to you and your fish, At least It's only one tank.

Maybe It's the Swine flu! Or H1N1! Or the Mexican flu as Harper calls it!:hmm3grin2orange:

[Gayle]

You can't leave Red! I'm pregnant!



:ssuprised: OMG :ssuprised:

I had no clue! LOL

Well, I did not find hardly any problems with that type of sand. It appears that it is really good stuff. Not even one shipment of bad sand reported that I could find. So back to the drawing board. :14:

[Red]

thanks guys for the support...
does tb always show signs of bent spines?

[smaug]

I have just read a very small amount of this thread.Quit screwing around Red and get back in line or go set in the truck :hmm3grin2orange:
You aint goin no where you love the abuse a fish tank can dish out.:14:

[Gayle]

thanks guys for the support...
does tb always show signs of bent spines?


No. But, I am pretty sure that it starts in the skin, and would show lesions or bumps before it got to the point of deformity or death. That is zoonotic too.

[Kaz]

thanks guys for the support...
does tb always show signs of bent spines?

:ssuprised:
Do you think it really could be...

I think somebody else had a simular situation and they left and everybody was sad. Don't make us sad.

And I was messing with the search function and I found this:

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Remember your humble beginings "Adam"(if that is your real name)!

I have WTs first one too, They are quite funny.

[Red]

well IDK, thats the only thing thats left. Fish are dropping like flies. Yeah i was quite a newb back then, but not a starter haa.
All fish are eating quite well besides my last and final albino cory :(
and they good thing is, I haven't added the sterbai cory to the main tank, the sitting happy in a 20L

[Northernguy]

TB is rare but it does happen.If you think it is do not put your hands in the tank without gloves.

[Gayle]

Sorry Red. :(

Do not give up! Where there is a will there is a way!!
LOL And we have a William here ha ha ha so there must be a way!

[domjd05]

I am probably wrong but having that much filtration and doing as frequent water changes as you are.. aren't you almost always submitting your fish to New Tank Syndrome? maybe years of doing this is finally having an effect? just a suggestion... I'm a water change fanatic myself, and one time when I was losing fish somebody said that to me, and I changed a few things in my routine.. like not quite as large water changes, not cleaning the gravel every single gravel change (I was doing 2 or 3 a week) and I cut back on things like salt, and that ph down junk.

[Glenn_F]

Did you check the water you used for the changes? Im here in Illinois too and the water varies out of the tap hugely! Hang in there Red!

[Red]

I would first go to the water, but all my other fish get the same water, the same things and none of them got ill effects, where are you in IL if you don't mind me asking?

And I don't think so dom, because of the fact I change water, not the filter pads. (besides once a month and only one filter) I never used chemicals, besides on a experiment tank, to see if they work. The only time I change the PH is with natural ways, driftwood, peat, crushed shells etc. So idk about that.

Thanks again guys, you throwing ideas at me helps a lot, even if you think its stupid, throw it out there because I have no clue. I didn't get much sleep over it last night, and tonight doesn't look any better. I just want to thank all the people who sent me gifts/pms help on this thread!

[Oscar_freak12321]

I hope this gets better for you Red!

[Red]

I hope this gets better for you Red!

thanks oscar!

[Lady Hobbs]

Well Red, my fish loss stopped. And I am at a loss just as you are. My problem was definately with the new fish I got but I have no idea's for you as your fish have been around for awhile. Now you have me wondering about the garlic. sheesh Who knows, huh?

[Mith]

Well Red, my fish loss stopped. And I am at a loss just as you are. My problem was definately with the new fish I got but I have no idea's for you as your fish have been around for awhile. Now you have me wondering about the garlic. sheesh Who knows, huh?


Lady Hobbs, I made a WHOLE pot of spaghetti sauce. I'll be treating my tank with some of it tonight because it has garlic... you're more than welcome to have some! :11:

[Gayle]

Well I do suppose the garlic itself could be contaminated with something, good point Lady Hobbs. I wonder if too much garlic could have ill effects? Hummm let me google it..........

Speaking of feeding...........did you give this tank any food at all that you did not feed other tanks?

[Red]

I don't think its garlic, as in its feed to all other fish. I feed all the same things to at least one other tank, if that makes sence and if anything my goldfish would get sick because they eat all the leftovers (so to speak)..
thanks guys, I can't tell you how much I appreciate it all!:22:

[Gayle]

Ok so we have covered the substrate, the food, the heater, the water, HEY what about plant food or anything you may use for the plants? Do you do anything special for them? Added any new plants or anything?

[Red]

No, I lost a whole ten gallon tank do to co2 and fertilizer and no new plants. I don't think the driftwood is doing anything because it has been in the tank forever... hmm

[Kaz]

Decorations maybe, or have we already covered those?

Are you away for large portions of the day? Maybe something is happening while your not there.

IDK, mabye God is just striking down your fish. Have you done anything blasphemous lately?

[Gayle]

Ok. How about the filter? Any chance there is some sort of malfunction going on there? Any wires that may be faulty and some how sending out stray currents? Or any parts that may be erroded, or leaking metals or anything into the water?

How about the air. Any tubes that may have some sort of issue? Pump running ok?

[Red]

I dont think I have done anything bad, besides cheating a little bit on my math test haa just kidding... No one is home besides my two dogs and two cats... But my door is shut, so they aren't in my room when I am not home.. The filter was running a bit rough the other day, but then it was fine after some cleaning.. I will check that out tomorrow. I just added an air tube to the tank because of the meds.. hmm

[Gayle]

Goofy ? but do you own or rent?

[Red]

own.. and we haven't even turned on are AC yet!

[Kaz]

I would say that maybe your power came off or something one day but the clocks would be flashing 12:00 over and over.

[Gayle]

Ok

Substrate: fine
Plants: Fine
Food: Fine
Water: Fine
Heater: Fine
Air Supply: Fine
Filter: Looking into
Wood: Should be fine
W/C supplies: Fine

Ok so you add stress coat correct, any other chemicals? How old are they? Have they been left open? Exposed to high temps/low temps?

[Red]

hmmm
I use stress coat thats it. I just got it from petsolutions and its a 2 litter bottle. It sits on my fish shelf... hmmm
I am going to bed, Ill sleep on it, and report if there is any causualties, fish looked good tonight. (whats left)

[Gayle]

Good night! Hey maybe the meds are kicking in then!! I hope!!

[Red]

thanks, goodnight!

[jackson17]

Replace heater if you could. This happened to me before. The power surged and blew a tiny piece of glass off the back side of the heater (about 1cmm) and then in the middle of the night I woke up to a zap sound and 1 fish was dead, the other was laying on the gravel not doing to good. Check your heater to see if there are any cracks or chips.

[Gayle]

So how are things in the tank today?? Are the fish still getting better?

[William]

Yes we want to know. Good news please.

[Mith]

If water paremeters are good... fish looks ok... no substantial change in water temps... equip works (not shocking fish)... then that narrows down the options. What about somthing internal? Parasites?

Maybe start treating for internal stuff??

[Jaster]

If water paremeters are good... fish looks ok... no substantial change in water temps... equip works (not shocking fish)... then that narrows down the options. What about somthing internal? Parasites?

Maybe start treating for internal stuff??

I just re-read the thread and honestly I can't think of a single other thing to check for? It's not the equipment, it's not the water, and it's not anything you're doing wrong... all thats left is the fish.

[Red]

Update,

Lost nothing today, first time in 3 days, no sick fish no nothing, maybe the meds are working. hmmm I don't want to jinx it....
hmm

thanks again everyone!

Do you think I should do a W/C?

[Taurus]

I've lost track...what's in the tank for meds now Red...melafix and pimafix?

[Gayle]

Great news Red!!!!!!!!! I am so glad!! Ummm No water change. Not until the seven days are done.

[Red]

I have melafix and pimafix in there right now! I fed them some black worms and daphina last night, they ate real well.
thanks again everyone!

[Taurus]

Yes, what Gayle said..treat for the full coarse..7 days. :22:

[Northernguy]

thumbs2: Great news Red!

[jb300m01]

I don't think the driftwood is doing anything because it has been in the tank forever... hmm

Shot in the dark... Maybe the driftwood is rotting from the inside out.. leeching toxins as it breaks down? Maybe pull it out and squeeze, stretch twist & bend it and see if it feels overly mushy or weak...

[fishlover49]

Update,

Lost nothing today, first time in 3 days, no sick fish no nothing, maybe the meds are working. hmmm I don't want to jinx it....
hmm

thanks again everyone!

Do you think I should do a W/C?

That is GREAT news!! :19: :19:

[Red]

WOOO!! NO LOSSES TODAY!!
I lost maybe yesterday the thing was killing my fish was building up to kill all the rest of my fish haa, but no losses today, all fish looking good!

[Gayle]

That is really good to hear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Taurus]

That's great to hear!!

[Red]

thanks guys!

[Kaz]

Maybe it was one of those things where one person yawns and everybody else begins to yawn.:hmm3grin2orange:

But seriously Good to hear.

[Red]

Maybe it was one of those things where one person yawns and everybody else begins to yawn.:hmm3grin2orange:

But seriously Good to hear.

good news and bad news,
good news no losses for me
bad news, my dad had a problem at his house (don't live withhim) and lost about 50 guppies baby-adults and is still clearing out the dead ones. Something has to be up with my water. Making a call to the water company on monday:scry:

[Gayle]

Oh no! That really stinks!! Sorry to hear that. 50 is alot!

[Red]

Oh no! That really stinks!! Sorry to hear that. 50 is alot!

yeah it sucks, and we are still fishing them out:scry:

[Northernguy]

It very well could have been the water source.

The water conditions up here change all the time.I think it has much to do with the weather.My landlord calls me all the time to update me on weather the water is borderline acidic or actually high in ph at the water treatment plant.Handy connection to have! lol It helps me decide weather or not its a good time for water changes.He also warns me about when the chlorine is about to spike.It seems to happen a few times a year.
I'm still waiting for him to get a tank!:hmm3grin2orange:

[Gayle]

That is kinda spooky! I mean that would have to have effects on people too. I think I would go bottled!!

[Little Embers]

So very sorry to hear about your Dad's guppies!!! Great that you haven't incurred any more losses though Red Severum!!! At least you seem to be getting to the cause of the problem....that's something!!!

[Red]

Yeah, there not open today, he lost all the guppies, he had a few hear and there, and it just wiped out the whole tank. That sucks, but no losses for me, male betta made a bubblenest so yeah, thanks guys for all the concerns, ill keep you updated!

[Gayle]

Man that is just terrible!

Well I guess then the Betta is a happy boy!!!!!!!! That is great!!!!!!!!

[Red]

Doing a waterchange on the 75 tonight, wish me luck!