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Mrs. Crabtree
02-20-2007, 06:39 PM
Have a 72 gallon to set up. We want to put it upstairs but are not sure if the floor can hold it. Is there a way to find out or should a typical home be able to support it on an upper floor? Thank you.
Incredulous_Ed
02-20-2007, 07:29 PM
It probably should be able to hold it. If you are still unsure, you should contact a building inspector to check. Be sure to place the stand accross more than 1 floor joist. Here's a good link that may answer some of your questions:
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cocoa_pleco
02-21-2007, 12:15 AM
try to stick it where theres a joist and lots of support.
Isnt mrs. crabtree from southpark? shes a real bit*h! lol
Drumachine09
02-21-2007, 02:13 AM
Well, i might just be able to help you. Last summer i helped my neighbor build one beast of a shed. Absoloutly Huge. He designed it to have two floors. The bottom floor for his wife to do potting and other small yard work in, (along with storing the mower), and the top floor for all of the heavy junk, such as, bags of fertilizer, Sandstone blocks (landscaping purposes), Bags and buckets of river rocks ("") and the like. He was afraid that the floor would not support the weight. So i talked to one of me mates in the contracting busines and he gave me a simple soloution. However, keep in mind this ONLY works if you have exposed joists and framework Directly under and around where you will put your tank. Most joists are 16" at the center. lets say these are your joists:
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And your tank sits on them like this:
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l____tank_____l
l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l
Your tanks weight can only be distributed over so many joists.This picture shows this tank sits on 8 joists (not realistic, unless its a huge tank) and lets say it weighs 500 lbs. 500/8= about 63 lbs. Thats not alot, but over time it could warp your joists. So,. it is possible to brace, and even spread out some of the weight, by "toenailing" some cripple studs in between the spaces. It should look something like this:
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l____tank_____l
lXlXlXlXlXlXlXlXlXlXlXlXlXlXlXlXlXlXlXlXlXlXlXlXlXl X=Cripple stud
The studs ar toenailed (nailed at an angle) from opposite corners of the dead space between the studs, one board right behind the other. This should help with the structural integrity of your floor.
Now your tank is supported on more joists, and your joists are also supported by more joists, decreasing the total weight on each joist.
Hope it helps, and if anyone need clarification, feel free to pm me and i will be more than happy to help you out.
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cocoa_pleco
02-21-2007, 02:22 AM
drumachine, you are PRO at drawing on paint and by keyboard.
I failed design studies almost, and pulled of a 53% average
Drumachine09
02-21-2007, 02:24 AM
drumachine, you are PRO at drawing on paint and by keyboard.
I failed design studies almost, and pulled of a 53% average
The tanks should be pictured in the middle of the joists, but the formatting is weird on this page. Not good for ASCII attempts. If anyone needs further explaination, i could whip something up on MS paint that might be better.
cocoa_pleco
02-21-2007, 02:26 AM
The tanks should be pictured in the middle of the joists, but the formatting is weird on this page. Not good for ASCII attempts. If anyone needs further explaination, i could whip something up on MS paint that might be better.
Time for a PRO paint drawing!
Dang, i even suck at paint. For design, I had to draw a '69 Pontiac JUDGE, and i ended up copying and pasting a picture and painting over it
Chrona
02-21-2007, 02:31 AM
The tanks should be pictured in the middle of the joists, but the formatting is weird on this page. Not good for ASCII attempts. If anyone needs further explaination, i could whip something up on MS paint that might be better.
I'll buy you "Adobe Photoshop for Dummies" for Christmas.
Drumachine09
02-21-2007, 02:33 AM
I already have photoshop 7 for dummies. The only problem is i have photoshop CS2, so some things are different. Same concept though.
Chrona
02-21-2007, 02:34 AM
Well then, I expect better pictures in the future!
:)
Drumachine09
02-21-2007, 02:39 AM
As fun as photoshop is, its to complicated to just mess around on. I was trained on MS paint, and thats where i am best at. I can do some pretty sweet stuff on photoshop though. They both have their +'s and -'s.
Chrona
02-21-2007, 02:41 AM
Paint is fun to mess around on, but it's pretty darn hard to get shading in. The eyes on this troll, after I narrowed them to slits just look weird.
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And yes, I am Chinese, so I can make stuff like this :)
Drumachine09
02-21-2007, 02:43 AM
Paint is fun to mess around on, but it's pretty darn hard to get shading in. The eyes on this troll, after I narrowed them to slits just look weird.
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When you do shading on paint, you have to use the "define custom colors palatte". Its pretty easy, when you learn how to use it.
Chrona
02-21-2007, 02:47 AM
When you do shading on paint, you have to use the "define custom colors palatte". Its pretty easy, when you learn how to use it.
Whaaa? Teach me master
EDIT: Nvm, found it. Doesn't help that much though imo, lol. You still need to be a really good judge of what areas are more yellow/brown/lighter/darker.
Drumachine09
02-21-2007, 02:52 AM
You still need to be a really good judge of what areas are more yellow/brown/lighter/darker.
Was that a racist comment?
Jk.
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cocoa_pleco
02-21-2007, 03:22 AM
lol :1: :1: :1: :4:
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