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PUNISHER VETTE
03-24-2009, 03:36 AM
Well with Neon Tetra disease i've decided to give up my 110g tank. But not on aquariums all together just yet. It's for the better anyway as i'll have to move it soon if not.

I need to know what to do with the fish. Which ones i should euthanize and which ones can give away? As i think some are as susceptible to NTD...
3 Dwarf neon rainbowfish, 2 harlequin rasboras, 2 rummynose tetras, 8ish neon tetras. and the shrimp(which i'm keeping anyway)

I'm transferring as many of the plants into either my old 30g tank or maybe i'll buy a new 30g without scratches.

I'll see about selling the tank w/driftwood. If someone wants the light i'll throw that in for $50 too, if not i'll keep it.

Filter i'm not sure yet. I'd like to use it on my 30g but....FX5
I guess i'll sell that too if someone might want it.

Nobody is going to want the gravel locally so i'm going to use some of it in the 30g and put the rest in a 5gal container in case i ever need to use it again.

Red
03-24-2009, 03:52 AM
Ill take some stuff if the price is there. Sorry about the NTD :(

Mith
03-24-2009, 04:52 AM
What's NTD?

PUNISHER VETTE
03-24-2009, 05:08 AM
What's NTD?

neon tetra disease....

mac
03-24-2009, 06:53 AM
Shame you are going to have to disassemble your loverly 110 gallon.

I would love to have all the stuff. Just to much to ship it over.

Sorry to here about your NTD that is a real shame.

mac

PUNISHER VETTE
03-24-2009, 10:38 PM
No input on what i should do with the fish?

Rue
03-24-2009, 10:42 PM
Up to you I suppose. I can't think of any 'right' way to dispose of them...

I'm still not sure why you're getting rid of the tank? If the fish are diseased, let them live out their lives in that tank. Then dismantle and disinfect...and start again...

KingFisher
03-24-2009, 10:42 PM
No input on what i should do with the fish?
It's a tough call, you shouldn't take them to a fish store if they have NTD because it could spread to the fish there. Same thing applies about giving them to another aquarist. Unfortunately, if you have no way of keeping them yourself, the right thing to do would be to euthanize them.

Red
03-24-2009, 11:33 PM
Its a hard one, I would try to keep as many as possible, but if you can't keep them I would euthanize them.

PUNISHER VETTE
03-24-2009, 11:42 PM
Up to you I suppose. I can't think of any 'right' way to dispose of them...

I'm still not sure why you're getting rid of the tank? If the fish are diseased, let them live out their lives in that tank. Then dismantle and disinfect...and start again...

Well i can't get any more fish until i fix this problem...

I'll be moving within the year most likely so not having a 110g would be nice. I've had nothing but problems with it anyway and will be glad to see it go.

I'll continue my planted tank career in a 30g till i figure out what my actual real life career is going to be.

But i don't want to transfer the fish to my 30g or if i get a new 30g to that or the bacteria will just get into those....

smaug
03-25-2009, 12:19 AM
Well,,,,,,nobody else wants to say it:hmm3grin2orange:
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If they have been subjected to an infectious disease this is your best option.

Red
03-25-2009, 12:22 AM
You should never flush alive fish or dead fish down the toliet. It can spread what ever it had to the wild.

KingFisher
03-25-2009, 12:27 AM
I agree with Sev, never flush fish for any reason. We do not want out waterways infected with diseases. Dead fish should be buried, burned, or disposed of in the trash.

smaug
03-25-2009, 12:28 AM
You should never flush alive fish or dead fish down the toliet. It can spread what ever it had to the wild.
Not that I truly advocate flushing fish,but seriously?Miles of sewer,sewage treatment plant,sediment laggoons,doubtful any pathogen makes it through even the first step.
Ill stop right now though,I know its a sensitive point to some.

Red
03-25-2009, 12:31 AM
True, I wouldn't suggest doing it though, when you can just find a more human way how to do it. Would you want to die by getting flushed or passing out and then being put out of your misery.

smaug
03-25-2009, 12:33 AM
True, I wouldn't suggest doing it though, when you can just find a more human way how to do it. Would you want to die by getting flushed or passing out and then being put out of your misery.
Calm down sev,,,,,you know full well I was just being comical.Every one knows I use a 30-06 to euthanize my fish:18:

Algenco
03-25-2009, 12:36 AM
Calm down sev,,,,,you know full well I was just being comical.Every one knows I use a 30-06 to euthanize my fish:18:



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smaug
03-25-2009, 12:39 AM
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Awesome!!:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:

Sharon
03-25-2009, 12:39 AM
Ice water is much quieter...and doesn't put holes in the walls!!!:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:

Algenco
03-25-2009, 01:49 AM
Ice water is much quieter...and doesn't put holes in the walls!!!:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:


not nearly as much fun:hmm3grin2orange:

PUNISHER VETTE
03-25-2009, 10:15 PM
Here's a picture of my current 30g.
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You think I should keep the driftwood and just plant as heavy as i can around it.

OR

Should i eliminate the wood altogether and just have plants be the focus of the tank. Say put my large amazon sword in the middle or something? not the one in the tank already but i have a much larger one.

Lindsey
03-25-2009, 10:17 PM
I sorta like it with the wood. What fish are you putting in there?

PUNISHER VETTE
03-25-2009, 10:20 PM
I sorta like it with the wood. What fish are you putting in there?

absolutely zero fish. I'm done with fish for a while.
and yeah i kinda like the wood as well. I think i'll work around it, and take out the small piece in there.

Lindsey
03-25-2009, 10:26 PM
Huh, cool. In that case I'd definitely keep the wood thumbs2: It's a good focal point, especially since you won't have anything but plants.

Lady Hobbs
03-25-2009, 10:33 PM
What's the hurry? Could you not wait this out for a month and see if others are infected or not. What if none of them have this and you destroy them all.

Wild Turkey
03-25-2009, 10:42 PM
Very true, i dont know who came up with "like shooting fish in a barrel" but you put one neon tetra in a barrel and try to shoot it. :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: Call me when theres no water in the barel and the neon tetra is flopping around in the bottom.

Seriously though, i have to disagree with Rue here. I was faced with a similar situation once, and i opted to tear down all my tanks as well.

I could have easily put all the fish into a "disease tank" but i would need to buy all new equipment to use on just that tank, be very careful about how i do everything from then on, and id never really be able to enjoy the tank knowing the fish are diseased. However, i did give it a month or two of extra observation just to be sure.

In the end, it wasnt worth the risk of infecting all the new tanks with the disease accidentally one day, its unlikely, but a fishes lifetime is a long time for something to happen, like you come home and your spouse scooped a dead one with the wrong net, etc.

I agree cold water is best if you arent an excellent shotthumbs2: :hmm3grin2orange: but adoption is better

PUNISHER VETTE
03-26-2009, 12:29 AM
Well i guess i'm still kinda torn. I was thinking of buying a new 30g since my 30 has scratches in it. But i'm pretty sure i shouldn't waste more money on this hobby for a while.

What i do know is i lost a lot of neons even in my 30g WAY back when it had fish in it. So maybe it still has NTD if i had it back then.. which means i might as well just transfer the fish with everything else.

I think what i'll do is get the plants the way i like then decide on moving the fish or euthanize them.

Dixie
03-26-2009, 02:48 AM
A[Only Registered Users Can See Links.] I really hate to hear of people giving up on keeping fish. I was ready to myself recently when my husband died but then I had my grandaughter in Walmart looking at fish and decided to get some guppies. It renewed my interest.

That 30g. tank is amazingly pretty though and I'm glad you'll keep it going. Maybe try something easy like guppies in it.

PUNISHER VETTE
03-26-2009, 04:02 AM
A[Only Registered Users Can See Links.] I really hate to hear of people giving up on keeping fish. I was ready to myself recently when my husband died but then I had my grandaughter in Walmart looking at fish and decided to get some guppies. It renewed my interest.

That 30g. tank is amazingly pretty though and I'm glad you'll keep it going. Maybe try something easy like guppies in it.


I've been looking for guppies for that tank for months now....just never found any that I liked the color of.

PostalPenguin
03-26-2009, 05:11 AM
I would keep the wood, as others said its a "focal point". Maybe platys? They're quite hardy, colorful and playful. But I can understand wanting to take a break from fish. I view my fish as a source of relaxation and I would imagine if it was a source of frustration it would get tiring fast. Good luck.

PUNISHER VETTE
03-26-2009, 09:10 PM
what's the best way to clean the gravel and plants when i move them to the new tank?

The plants may have snail eggs as well which i would like to try and eliminate in this transition. along with the bad bacteria/disease

some of the fish can live in the 29g till i figure out what to do with them.

bushwhacker
03-26-2009, 11:21 PM
a quick bleach dip solves the snail problem

PUNISHER VETTE
03-27-2009, 06:17 PM
Well it's done, my fish are resting now. Decided to just get it over with and euthanize them all.

Ice water worked quickly