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labnjab
02-02-2009, 05:40 PM
Our goldfish are getting bigger, and have been saving up for a new place. Now they can move out of their 55 gallon apartment and into a 75 gallon all glass townhouse :hmm3grin2orange: (which they will begin saving for a 150 gallon mansion)

So far we have the tank, light, and my grandfather with be building the stand. We plan on using the 55 gallon's current cascade 1000 canister and aquatech 30/60 filters until we save up for a second canister filter. This will hopefully be a low tech low light planted tank (mostly java fern because we know they don't eat them)

Our goals

Filtration

Cascade 1000
Cascade 1500

Lighting
Current 2x65 watt PC light with moonlights (with 2 6500K bulbs)

Substrate
Pool filter sand if we can find it this time of year

Plants
Mostly Java ferns, but we will experiment with what they will and will not eat

Aeration
AirTech 2k4 and some sort of medium size bubble stone

Here are some pictures of the new tank, the light, and their current apartment
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/random%20coral%20shots/100_0263.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/random%20coral%20shots/100_0264.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/random%20coral%20shots/100_0269.jpg

labnjab
02-02-2009, 05:41 PM
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/random%20coral%20shots/100_0265.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/random%20coral%20shots/100_0268.jpg

I will keep you posted as we progress. The only thing stopping us now is the stand which I hope to have by the weekend, or the start of next week


edit: don't mind the sheets in the first pic, that's what we use to cover our sump at night, it shines right into the bedroom

Rue
02-02-2009, 05:44 PM
Cool!thumbs2:

Think your Grandfather has time to build me a stand? We're a sadly un-handy family...:hmm3grin2orange:

labnjab
02-02-2009, 05:44 PM
I forgot to mention, this is going to be a low budget tank, so far we only have $75 invested, which is what the tank cost used

labnjab
02-02-2009, 05:45 PM
Cool!thumbs2:

Think your Grandfather has time to build me a stand? We're a sadly un-handy family...:hmm3grin2orange:

Maybe, he's retired and always looking for something to do, lol

Rue
02-02-2009, 05:47 PM
Wonder how long it would take to drive to NH from here?

labnjab
02-02-2009, 05:49 PM
Its about 4 hours north to the border, :hmm3grin2orange:

Rue
02-02-2009, 05:52 PM
...hmm...ans gas is still cheap...

labnjab
02-04-2009, 12:13 PM
I got a black background attached to the tank and I decided to buy a stand instead of build one. I found a stand on craigslist for a 120 on craigslist that I'm gonna try out. I'm still on the lookout for pool filter sand and if I find it I will be setting up tonight. I'll post pics this afternoon

oldhead
02-04-2009, 01:19 PM
Sweet! Although I must say that I am amazed you were able to restrain yourself from making that your new reef tank,lol. I don't think that I could fight that urge!

labnjab
02-04-2009, 01:26 PM
I didn't think so either, lol, Its taking alot of will power, the dark side is strong, but its gonna be much cheaper to get this goldfish tank going then a reef, and the goldfish do need a larger home. All i have left to buy is a 2nd canister filter, plants, a couple of 65 watt 21 inch 6500K pc bulbs, and pool filter sand. My next project is a 75 gallon reef, but its gonna take me 5 or 6 months to buy what I need, lol, but I hope its going by the summer

labnjab
02-04-2009, 04:49 PM
I got the stand in earlier this morning. Its actually built pretty good. Its made of 3/4 inch MDF and is heavy. Here are some pics of it
Front side with doors open
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/100_0273.jpg

middle

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/100_0274.jpg

Back. note how the middle back brace is offset, so its right in the middle of the stand
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/100_0275.jpg

The whole thing

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/100_0276.jpg


I'm on lunch now so I don't have to to set anything up.


I also need some aquascaping ideas. I want to leave it as open as possible, but at the same time I don't want it to look as bland as their current tank. Once I sell their current tank and stand, I'm going to buy some plants. Mostly java ferns because they won't eat them. I'm going to use the decorations they have in their tank now until I can get some decent driftwood



one more thing. I plan on selling their 55 gallon tank and stand on craigslist, what would be a good asking price? I was thinking $100-$125, is this too high or low. The Tank is scratch free and stand is in great shape as well

labnjab
02-04-2009, 04:56 PM
A forgot to mention, the bottom is completely flat so its going to distribute the weight nicely on the floor and be easy to level (my apartment is way out of level)

Rue
02-04-2009, 05:05 PM
Excellent! Looking forward to seeing it all set up...

List the 55g for $150, and then come down to $125. Everyone likes to feel they're getting a bargin.

labnjab
02-04-2009, 05:30 PM
I put it for $125 or trade for a large canister filter (one rated for a 200 gallon or more tank) on a local reef club forum. If no one takes it in a week I'll put it on craigslist for $150

labnjab
02-05-2009, 01:32 PM
I got everything set up last nighty. Of course my camera batteries were dead at the time of set-up. It took a whole pack of shims to lvl it, but its almost dead on level. The water is still very cloudy because of the sand so I'll have some pics once it clears up. So far the goldies are happy, and were acting normal last night (when I could see them, lol) I'm going to check parameters this afternoon to see if I started a mini cycle or not, although I used 90% of the original sand from the 55 and both filters from the 55 which haven't been cleaned in a month, so I'm thinking its ok.

The next task for this tank is the hard part, for me anyways,lol, aquascaping and planting it

labnjab
02-05-2009, 09:48 PM
Looks like I got lucky and didn't start a mini cycle. Water is still very cloudy so I'm gonna do a 50 wc tonight to help it out. The goldies are still very happy and are acting as normal:hmm3grin2orange: Look for pics tommorrow morning regardless of how cloudy it is. I also had room to put my betta tank on the bottom middle (with the filter it was a little short, but I put some boards to fill the gap) Now I have all my FW tanks on one side of the room and my Reef on the other. I'll be saving up for plants and a 2nd canister now. It have plenty filtration now, but I want to get rid of the HOB and have 2 canisters

Rue
02-05-2009, 09:50 PM
Cool! I'm glad your fish room is shaping up so nicely.thumbs2:

Did you put your sofa in the middle of the room yet?:hmm3grin2orange:

labnjab
02-05-2009, 09:55 PM
Not yet, although it would make room for another tank, lol. Actually my couch is too long to move to the center of the room. Its huge. It wouldn't fit between my 75 gallon and reef Only spot I have left is where my 46inch flat screen is, and I'm not gonna part with that....yet, jk, lol I have one more spot, and that reserved for a 75 gallon reef which I hope to get going by the summer. Man MTS sucks

labnjab
02-06-2009, 12:24 PM
Heres some pictures. The tank is still cloudy, and the pics of it are when I was doing a 50% wc, and look for an after once the lights turn on this afternoon.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/random%20coral%20shots/100_0278.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/random%20coral%20shots/100_0281.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/random%20coral%20shots/100_0282.jpg

I have the egg crate in place until I can get a top that is made for a 75 instead of one made for a 55
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/random%20coral%20shots/100_0283.jpg

labnjab
02-06-2009, 12:25 PM
And here are 2 pics of the "fish room"

Saltwater side

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/random%20coral%20shots/100_0279.jpg

Freshwater side, that tank furthest away is the 55 gallon community

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/random%20coral%20shots/100_0280.jpg

labnjab
02-09-2009, 05:42 PM
Not any changes over the weekend, still waiting for the water to clear up. Its way better then it has been, but not crystal clear. I'm going to do a 100% wc tonight and see if its better. I'd like to start aquascaping, but its hard to do when you can't see anything. I don't think the goldies have noticed they have a larger tank yet,lol, they still stay in an area about the same footprint of the 55. Maybe because they can't see yet, lol

labnjab
03-09-2009, 11:22 AM
I haven't updated in a while, but there's not much change. Waters crystal clear and goldfish are very happy. I'm working on getting a 2nd canister filter, driftwood and plants. Once I do that I'm gonna add 3 dojo loaches and 1 more goldfish. I'll try and get a pic or a video this afternoon

labnjab
03-18-2009, 04:48 PM
I bought the correct bulbs for our pc light and added the first plants to the tank. Here's a before and after shot with the old bulbs and new. The new ones are 55 watt 9325 K and really bring out the goldfish's color. I should be getting more plants later this week. I also made the tank open top and it gives a much better appearance

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/100_0438.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/100_0443.jpg

Rue
03-18-2009, 05:04 PM
Nice lighting! It does make a difference!:ssmile:

Sharon
03-18-2009, 05:57 PM
Looks great!thumbs2:

labnjab
03-20-2009, 11:26 AM
Thank you. :ssmile:

labnjab
03-20-2009, 04:51 PM
We added some more plants and took out the pvc pipe. They are loving the plants and are swimming through them, but I can't wait till the root themselves so I don't have to fix them every day or so, lol. They haven't munched on the yet.

One of the plants is an amazon sword, which I know likes warmer weather better, but I'd thought I would see how it does. If it doesn't do so good I'll pop it in my 55 gallon community


http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/100_0455.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/100_0456.jpg


and just for comparison, here's what their home looked like when we first got them. A 30 gallon that had a major algae problem

http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aquariumforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9709&d=1215991349

labnjab
03-27-2009, 11:28 AM
NLS has shaved our oranda with a gotee. One of our orandas had a black "gotee" around his mouth and a black top fin. Now he's almost 100% bright orange

Before
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/random%20coral%20shots/100_0308.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/random%20coral%20shots/100_0304.jpg
After

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/100_0470.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/100_0472.jpg

labnjab
05-08-2009, 05:00 PM
Updates
The tanks doing great and the goldfish are loving it

Added an AC110 to the tank and got rid of the aquatech filter and wow what a filterthumbs2: Between the ac110 and the cascade 1000 the tank has close to 800GPH turnover

Here are some pictures

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/random%20coral%20shots/100_0666.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/random%20coral%20shots/100_0667.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/random%20coral%20shots/100_0668.jpg


I was wondering your opinion on what we should do next with the tank as far as aquascaping.

Now that we've increased the filtration we are going to pick up a Red Cap tonight (we had to put down the other one we had shortly after getting it). The lfs had some good looking, healthy ones (3 inches) Wednesday at $8 each so I hope they still have them. Once the plants grow in more we also plan to add a few dojo loaches to add some variety

rich311k
05-08-2009, 05:02 PM
Tank looks great. Pretty fish.

labnjab
05-08-2009, 05:03 PM
Thank you:ssmile:

MCHRKiller
05-08-2009, 07:33 PM
Its nice to see somebody treating goldfish right :) Id add some driftwood myself...but then to me a tank just isnt complete without a ton of wood in it, some rock would look nice as well. Maybe add some more plants, tie a bunch of java ferns to said driftwood go with alot of thin long pieces and keep the scape verticle with the amazon swords planted at the bottom to fill things in. Still leaving lots of room for your golds and giving some good height elements to the tank.

Something similar to this only not so thick with the plants
http://www.tedsfishroom.com/wp/wp-content/gallery/phil-benes/sm_edit_PB_displays_Dec2_07_002.jpg

labnjab
05-09-2009, 12:14 AM
Thank you for the suggestions. I've been wanting driftwood and have been on the lookout for large driftwood locally but can't find any large pieces and smaller ones run over well $30. I ended up removing the sword, it was dieing, but I'll be getting more plants soon.

We added a red cap today. Hes awesome and very healthy and roughly 3-4 inches long. We fed the tank at the same time we added him and he quickly stuffed his face:hmm3grin2orange:


http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/100_0675.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/100_0676.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/100_0677.jpg

troy
05-09-2009, 12:20 AM
Cool new fish.

rich311k
05-09-2009, 12:34 AM
Very nice fish, good luck with him.

labnjab
05-11-2009, 04:46 PM
Thank you he seems to be fitting in very well. I've found he is also a fan of Van Halenthumbs2:. We had some playing the other night and he was swimming from one end of the tank to the other, none of the other goldies reacted.

Northernguy
05-11-2009, 05:05 PM
Nice tank! Your new occupants seem to like it! lol

labnjab
08-17-2009, 04:36 PM
I Haven't updated in several months but the tank is going great, the goldfish and plants are growing like weeds. My big black moore is pushing 7 inches long from nose to tail. I'm going for an overgrow look in the tank for its function of nitrate reduction. I plan on trimming the anarchis back and replanting in different areas of the tank. The goldfish love swimming through it and it grows very quickly. I am not dosing anything as far as ferts or co2. The goldfish are providing enough food for the plants. I feed the goldfish twice a day with NLS pellets
FTS
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/random%20coral%20shots/100_0937.jpg
The Jungle
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/random%20coral%20shots/100_0938.jpg

Our bigger oranda
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/random%20coral%20shots/100_0939.jpg

Our smaller oranda
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/random%20coral%20shots/100_0941.jpg

labnjab
08-17-2009, 04:37 PM
Big Guy

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/jabsgirlforever/random%20coral%20shots/100_0944.jpg

labnjab
02-08-2010, 12:30 PM
Here's an update, I know its been a while. We lost both our orange orandas for unexplained reasons during the fall. They remaining 4 fish are doing great. I haven't done much with the tank as far as its looks are concerned as I've been working on our 75 gallon reef. Its still overgrown but they love it. Currently in the works is adding a large pressure filter. A friend gave us a 1100gph external pump which is just enough to run the filter so all that remains is to plumb it in.