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eteller
01-28-2009, 03:37 PM
I recently upgraded my 29gal. tank to a 55gal for my community fish, and plan to set-up the 29gal. as a Goldfish tank. I'm thinking some Black Moors with white gravel or sand. Will sand work okay with GF?

Rue
01-28-2009, 04:06 PM
Good question! I had an incident with a goldie getting a piece of gravel stuck in his mouth. It was just the 'right' size to get stuck. Luckily I saw it and I was able to hold him and get it out...

...but given how they like to root around in the substrate I think you'd do best with a smaller gravel. Too small to get stuck in their mouths, but large enough that they're not always making a mess of the substrate (sand clouds, etc.)...

A 29 g will hold 2-3 fancy goldfish comfortably.

labnjab
01-28-2009, 04:29 PM
I have play sand as the substrate in my 55 gallon with 4 fancies. They love it. Their always digging around in it. I wouldn't put any more the 2 fancies in a 29 and that would be pushing it and would only be if you have it overflitered. They get up to 10 inches depending on species and are very, very active. I will be soon upgrading mine to a 75 gallon, and will only be keeping the 4 of them and will not add anymore

eteller
01-28-2009, 05:46 PM
I went ahead and got off-white gravel at Wally World, will be using a Whisper 30-60 from my 55gal (got a canister for it) on the 29gal. Found ammonia at Family Dollar to cycle it.

Fishguy2727
01-28-2009, 06:26 PM
The only thing I would ever keep my goldfish on is sand. I only use Estes' Marine Sand.

Gravel traps debris which causes water and health problems. It can also get stuck in their mouth.

I hope you will take the time to read through the goldfish articles which are stickied in the goldfish section (a sub-section of the coldwater section). They are also in my blog. Another important one to read is 'Stocking an Aquarium' in the general freshwater section. These should be very helpful.

troy
01-28-2009, 11:11 PM
I have play sand as the substrate in my 55 gallon with 4 fancies. They love it. Their always digging around in it. I wouldn't put any more the 2 fancies in a 29 and that would be pushing it and would only be if you have it overflitered. They get up to 10 inches depending on species and are very, very active. I will be soon upgrading mine to a 75 gallon, and will only be keeping the 4 of them and will not add anymore
There is only one species of goldfish.

Northernguy
01-29-2009, 12:00 AM
I think sand is ok for any type of fish.They don't have gravel in the wild!
Rue i used pool filter sand in my tanks and I never get any clouding at all,it settles real fast and clear.
I love the stuff!

Fishguy2727
01-29-2009, 12:03 AM
The type of sand can have a huge effect. And even the same type but different batches or brands in different places can make a huge difference. This is one reason why I only use or recommend Estes' Marine Sand.

Rue
01-29-2009, 03:38 PM
I've only done sand once...way back when...

Never again.


But I believe you! Maybe we had some weird stuff...no way of finding out now...

The smaller 'natural' coloured gravel is my favourite now...wish I had purchased that instead of 'black' for my 55g...but I was trying to involve the kids...

At least I wouldn't let them pick blue or purple...:hmm3grin2orange: