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sk8trf69
12-25-2006, 03:51 PM
what would be a good undergravel filter to get for my 55 gallon?

Fishguy2727
12-25-2006, 05:04 PM
None. Do not waste your money on UGF filters, there are many much better filters out there, especially for an oscar tank. Is the 55 going to be the oscar's permanent home? Do you already have the oscar? What other filtration do you already have?

sk8trf69
12-25-2006, 05:19 PM
yea this is his permanent home and he is already in there i have two HOB filters on does about 250 GPH and the other at about 100 GPH

Fishguy2727
12-25-2006, 11:48 PM
GPH does not matter, what size tank are they rated 'up to'?

Definitely no UGF, especially on cichlids. I would definitely add a Fluval 405, especially with an oscar in a 55. You will also need to do big frequent water changes on that setup. What are you feeding?

Here (http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aquariumforum/showthread.php?t=2378) is a good explanation on Hole in the Head, something very omportant for oscars.

Here (http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aquariumforum/showthread.php?t=2562) is a good one on diet, something that ,ake a huge difference in success and problems.

sk8trf69
12-25-2006, 11:58 PM
i do 50% water changes once a week and his diet consist mainly of pellets and his guppy treat 2 or 3 times a week

Lady Hobbs
12-26-2006, 12:00 AM
I agree. NONE.

sk8trf69
12-26-2006, 01:15 AM
none of what?

Fishguy2727
12-26-2006, 03:05 AM
Absolutely no live food. Unless you are raising them yourself (which even then isn't completely safe) you are running the risk of introducing A LOT of different pathogens. Live food is completely unnecessary for your fish. If you are dead set on a treat go with frozen, but there is no reason to deviate from the very high quality foods like Hikari Cichlid Bio-Gold+ and New Life Spectrum. I would step up to 75% weekly water changes if you are comfortable with that, which if you are already at 50% with no problems you should have no problems stepping up to 75%.

sk8trf69
12-26-2006, 04:23 AM
yes i raise the guppys myself and i can deff. up it to 75% water changes weekley if will help my fish

jeffs99dime
12-26-2006, 04:53 AM
yeah. don't waste your money on a ugf! there are a lot better means of filtration than that.

Nautilus291
12-26-2006, 06:10 AM
I have a ugs on my 10g and i hate it. I would take it out but im finally almost finished cycling so im not going to mess with it.

Fishguy2727
12-26-2006, 03:17 PM
I would still stop using the guppies, there is healthier stuff to put in them and it still is not safe. The guppies may be harboring something that they are not getting sick from, but they could pass it on to the oscar who may get sick from it.

Lady Hobbs
12-26-2006, 04:35 PM
none of what?

LOL Sorry. I was rather rushed on my answer. You asked what kind of UGF should you use and my answer was none. Having the gravel cleaned out every couple of weeks instead of having that gunk hiding under those plates will give you healthier water and less debris.

Lady Hobbs
12-26-2006, 04:36 PM
I have a ugs on my 10g and i hate it. I would take it out but im finally almost finished cycling so im not going to mess with it.

You are just getting soooo smart Adam! I would leave that UGF for one more month just to stay safe and then slide it out of there.