Im sorry

[Ryuu]

Ok guys, well, im really really sorry, I have a few confessions I have to say;
When I first joined the forum I aboslutly loved it. It was so much fun and so informatiional. I had introduced myself, and everyone was so nice. Well then I became afraid that everyone was going to think of me as a boring stupid person, so I made something up to make myself seem more intresting to hide my real identity, and then I had done it again and again, because it made me feel comfortable with myself. All the while, I had hated doing it. I couldnt stop, until it got out of control, to the point where I no one really knows who I am, and I feel so bad for that. So I want to confess to all the things I have said.

1. I was born in germany.
Reason for being said" I thought that saying I was from there would make people like me, I was afraid they would think that I was some creep.

2. I had bought a new house
Reason for being said" In one of the threads I cant remember what, someone wanted to know what room I had all the tanks in, well instead of saying a small 6 by 6 room, I had said that I had my own fish room, which is true I do have one, but its not big, and I had said it was in my new house.

3. I bought a expensive cello
Reason for being said" I had bought a 155,000 Dollar cello and it was stolen and it was from the early ages. The money was also from me playing for people, but I had said that I had been renouned in the US, well I was honored by michigan, not exatcly the US.

4. I had always taken good care of the fish
Reason for saying" I was afraid everyone was going to be mad because I had fogot it was a W/C day, and was really busy, so I said that I did it because I was afraid.

5. I had said that I was going to get an oscar and severum tank.
Reason for saying" I thought that the rusty cichlids would be ok wiht the other fish, but decided that it was more responsible of me to put them where they belong, in the new 75g

I would also like to personally apologize to tolley, I dont know why I said I was who I wasnt, I thought that it would make me be more intresting or anything. Im sorry

I would also like to personally apologize to the whole forum, I am very very angry at myself, and am in total disbelief that I had even started it, I was never one to lie, or say I am who I am not, and It sadens me to think that I had done the things im done. Im sorry.

Im really really sorry, I dont know why I started, I was so afraid everyone wouldnt like who I was. I now relize the extent of my horrible lies, and I really really really really wish I could take them back. I have done more bad then good for the fourm I feel. Im sorry, and im not trying to drawl attention to myself, or start drama. I come to you, not asking you to forgive me, but to accept my apology, and hope that I can become a real member of the forum, and not a fake one. I have made a comitment to myself and this forum, that I would not bear false witness again.

So before I leave I would like to really introduce myself;

My name is Mike, I was born in michigan. I am very shy, and try to keep to myself, however, sometimes that is not the case. I have two brothers, and five sisters. I plan on presuing my dreams of becoming either a orchestra director, or a history teacher, and starting a charity to help the homeless. I am a very motivated person, but have many pitfalls. I hope that I can make real friends that know the real me on this forum. I would also love to help others in need.

I am very sorry, and hope that what I have said will be accepted, and that I can become a true member.

Thank you for your time, and I will answer any and all questions. Sorry
Mike

P.S. Sorry mods, I am not trying to start any drama or such, I just really want to change how I am for my sake, and the forums.

[funnyfish]

I really feel strong about telling lies and strongly teach my boys not to lie. I feel it makes it very hard to trust the person that has told the lie and also makes me feel bad when I dont trust them... But with that being said you may have lied about things about yourself but there are no lies you can tell that will make you a good person if your not.... You are always very caring and helpful and kind to everyone here myself included. You always have advice and sweet words for people going through hard times. I know alot of people are going to have truble trusting you completely. But I for one feel you made a huge step coming forward. I hope others feel the same way and come forward with some soft words and the kindness you have always shown others. Good luck and I will always be a friend. Just remember not to make the same mistake again. I personally would rather have people hate for what I am then love me for what I am not. It has always worked well for me.

[Ryuu]

Thank you, I feel horrible, I honestly really dont know why it even started. I think it was because when I started fish keeping and that, almost all my friends left because I had this "Obbession" and that was about a month after I joined, so I got afraid that soon it would happen here, so I had to cover up, I knew it was wrong at the time, but it seemed more right then wrong. How I wish I hadnt have done it. I know most people here will probably hate me. I know I cannot change there opinon, or mind about me, and I will not attempt to for I deserve it.

[Lady Hobbs]

Well, it took a lot of guts to come out and admit you've lied about several things but I pretty much figured a lot of lies were being told and suppose many others did, as well.

First it was the cello thing, then the buying your mom her house, then the driving in Germany at 14, etc. I hope you find out that just being you, Mike, is not a bad thing and you need not lie at all. Nothing wrong with being a kid and having a fish hobby.

Just be yourself, tell the truth and you won't have to remember what you said and what you didn't say and have to keep stories straight.

Big step you took right here tonight toward clearing the air and becoming an honest person.

[Red]

Dont worry ryuu you still are my stocking buddy :)

[Ryuu]

Im glad to know that im still sorta wanted. I was so afraid to even say something, I didnt want to, but decided it was the right thing. I still am total disbelief that it even went this far. Wow, and just wow, I swear, I never ment for it to happen

[funnyfish]

Theres no mistake in the past you can ever change the only thing you can do is move on and do better. Some might be mad for a bit, and they have a right to be alittle upset but the ones that come back are ment to be your friends. Thats the way it works you have done something wrong and you cant blame those who do not choose to forgive you thats their own burden to have. Yours is to learn from this and move on to be wiser and to learn to give people a chance to get to know you the real you. You like evryone is special then their own way but how will anyone ever get to know that unless you are honest. I feel you have learned and I hope you never ever repeat this mistake. You have at least one friend still here and I am sure more will follow. Oh and yes you can change minds it may take a bit but you can by moving on from this point and being the best you and the real you and you are the only one that can do that...

[Tigerbarb]

I totally accept your apology, and fully forgive you. I understand why you would use lies to sound interesting, and I have to admit that I can see myself doing the same thing.

[OscarFan]

Once u said u could drive at the age of 12 in Germany I suspected something. Did your brother really bust his head open this morning... Oh well at least your confessing so thats a plus..

[Lady Hobbs]

They say if you're going to be a liar to at least be a good one. You didn't really make the grade, anyway, because you weren't very good at it.

LOL

[Ryuu]

Yes he did bust his head open, on a rock, he had to get 14 butterfly stictches so it wasnt that bad.

And thank you tiger, im so sorry everyone I just feel ugh, I cant even live with myself to this point.

[Sounguru]

All right Mike I'm gonna make this easy for ya......By letting you know several important things I learned in my years....

#1 Never tell anyone you work for the CIA when you really don't. Yes I know most people look down on you when you tell them you are really a rent-a-cop but that is okay.
#2 When trying to cover up you secert identity don't leave a corner of your cape hanging out of your fly it is a dead give away.. Also changing in a phone booth not a good idea as most of them have clear glass on 4 sides the whole world can see you change.
#3 When someone buys something beter than you you never say you just bought the next best one,,No that is lame try this line.. "Wow really man I'm gonna have to call my lawyer they totally stole my patent, Thanks for the heads up."
#4 When talking about your fish tank to your eyes the fish are always 6" bigger than they really are so when you take that into account most oscars are under 8" in size..... Most of us know this and take it into account. We just like to stroke the ego and say those magical words... "Wow that is huge man."
#5 The most important thing is real life is always a lot more fun than living in a dream when you embrace the truth of it there are a lot of great stories you will have to tell......

No sweat off of my brow and I'm sure there are a lot of others that feel the same... So don't get all in knots over what is in the past embrace the future and I for one give ya a clean slate to do so with.....

Cool Idea go to the introduction thread and reitroduce yourself....:c3:

[funnyfish]

:19: You are very brave and I for one am very proud of you and all who have replied

[xximanoobxx]

Apology accepted :ssmile: :ssmile: :ssmile: :ssmile:

[angelcakes]

very brave buddy......to me it didnt matter if you were tom dick or harry,youre a good person and good to chat to,so get back on the word game and lets keep it going:19: :19:

[Billythefish]

Well dude im sorry but im not going to be as super nice as the others.. You have let me down by lieing and taking us for fools.. I have no idea why you felt the need to do so when people and myself here wouldn't think any thing worse of you for just being you!.. And hay saying your german haha that wouldn't make me think you was cool at all lol.. I hope you have the sence now to just be your self and not tell any more lie's!.. I will give you credit for coming clean and i know that others are full of it to so your not alown in the b.s stakes, its now down to you to prove to your self that you can be a good and honest member .

[Tolley]

Ok guys, well, im really really sorry, I have a few confessions I have to say;
When I first joined the forum I aboslutly loved it. It was so much fun and so informatiional. I had introduced myself, and everyone was so nice. Well then I became afraid that everyone was going to think of me as a boring stupid person, so I made something up to make myself seem more intresting to hide my real identity, and then I had done it again and again, because it made me feel comfortable with myself. All the while, I had hated doing it. I couldnt stop, until it got out of control, to the point where I no one really knows who I am, and I feel so bad for that. So I want to confess to all the things I have said.

1. I was born in germany.
Reason for being said" I thought that saying I was from there would make people like me, I was afraid they would think that I was some creep.

2. I had bought a new house
Reason for being said" In one of the threads I cant remember what, someone wanted to know what room I had all the tanks in, well instead of saying a small 6 by 6 room, I had said that I had my own fish room, which is true I do have one, but its not big, and I had said it was in my new house.

3. I bought a expensive cello
Reason for being said" I had bought a 155,000 Dollar cello and it was stolen and it was from the early ages. The money was also from me playing for people, but I had said that I had been renouned in the US, well I was honored by michigan, not exatcly the US.

4. I had always taken good care of the fish
Reason for saying" I was afraid everyone was going to be mad because I had fogot it was a W/C day, and was really busy, so I said that I did it because I was afraid.

5. I had said that I was going to get an oscar and severum tank.
Reason for saying" I thought that the rusty cichlids would be ok wiht the other fish, but decided that it was more responsible of me to put them where they belong, in the new 75g

I would also like to personally apologize to tolley, I dont know why I said I was who I wasnt, I thought that it would make me be more intresting or anything. Im sorry

I would also like to personally apologize to the whole forum, I am very very angry at myself, and am in total disbelief that I had even started it, I was never one to lie, or say I am who I am not, and It sadens me to think that I had done the things im done. Im sorry.

Im really really sorry, I dont know why I started, I was so afraid everyone wouldnt like who I was. I now relize the extent of my horrible lies, and I really really really really wish I could take them back. I have done more bad then good for the fourm I feel. Im sorry, and im not trying to drawl attention to myself, or start drama. I come to you, not asking you to forgive me, but to accept my apology, and hope that I can become a real member of the forum, and not a fake one. I have made a comitment to myself and this forum, that I would not bear false witness again.

So before I leave I would like to really introduce myself;

My name is Mike, I was born in michigan. I am very shy, and try to keep to myself, however, sometimes that is not the case. I have two brothers, and five sisters. I plan on presuing my dreams of becoming either a orchestra director, or a history teacher, and starting a charity to help the homeless. I am a very motivated person, but have many pitfalls. I hope that I can make real friends that know the real me on this forum. I would also love to help others in need.

I am very sorry, and hope that what I have said will be accepted, and that I can become a true member.

Thank you for your time, and I will answer any and all questions. Sorry
Mike

P.S. Sorry mods, I am not trying to start any drama or such, I just really want to change how I am for my sake, and the forums.

I think it's very brave of you to come out after all this time. You don't need to be someone else to be interesting. I forgive you. Also you have me confused now are you getting a 75gallon?

[CAllain]

I didn't see your lies but it was brave for you to come forward!

Anyway, even as yourself you must be more interesting than I am so don't worry about it any more! (seriously, all I do is work, water changes, and fish forums)

[sandy_n]

Ah, confessions are so good for the soul. Very brave thing to do.
Mike, you are a unique person just like everyone else is unique. When you start lying about yourself you give up who you really are.
There will always be people out there who won't think your worth giving the time of day to. So what. You don't need that kind of person in your life anyway.
You've spent so much energy into trying to be something you are not. Try using that energy on becoming ok with who the real Mike is.
I think going to the intro forum and reintroducing yourself as the real you would be a great way to wipe the slate clean and start all over as Mike...the one that you are afraid people aren't going to like. I think you're going to be surprised.

[Ryuu]

Ok,
Thank you for your forgivness, song, angel, funny.

I understand billy, and am totally ok with your opinon, I deserve it.

Tolley, I am getting it, im waiting for the guy on craigslist to reply back.

I am so happy that you are so forgiving, I honestly think that I dont deserve it, but thank you.

EDIT: Thank you sandy and I will do that.

[smaug]

Thats awesome that you have admitted your sins.However it was just yesterday that you did a copy and paste from someone elses article and didnt mention it.As for my forgiveness,I dont know you,when I get to know who YOU are Ill make up my mind as to how I should react to you.Its a long road back from lying to people.You took the first step on a long hard journey.I have a suggestion,possibly the best way to come back would be to renounce any awards you have as well as all the gifts,the rep points are not yours either.These things were given to the person you SAID you were,not to the person you claim to want to be.Do that and it will take you a long way down the path of redemption in everyones eyes.Just a suggestion,I dont dislike you:11:

[Lady Hobbs]

Smaug, on this I have to disagree. Mike did not have to come forward at all. His awards are for the amount of posts he wrote, his linking AC to another site, his blog and his gallery. That doesn't change no matter who he is.

He admitted he made his mistakes but how are we to know how many others here haven't stretched the truth, as well? I have seen other posts that cause the old eyebrows to be raised. He should not be punished for coming forward and admitting he messed up.

But yes, I also noticed the copy and paste and was going to say something to him but let it go......this time. I've seen others do that, as well. Not what they're supposed to do but some here are young and don't know all the "rules" of copyright infridgement.

[Ryuu]

I understand smaug, and I do apologize for it. And I guess I shall do it, since all I honestly care about is gaining back everyones trust. So if someone can do that I would appreciate it.

[GouramiGal]

Aha. Now I understand the "reintroduction" post.

This must have been hard for you to do. Bravo for trying to set the record straight. It's hard to be surrounded by such negative energy (the lies), so I hope you feel some relief now.

For me, it's easy to forgive. I have forgiven some big whoppers, believe me. Trust, however, is another issue. In fact, a Priest just started talking to me about the difference between forgiveness and trust. Although I have forgiven the peole who have done terrible things to me, I can't say that I trust them. I'm working on it. We're all works in progress (or should be, anyway!)

I'm not sure I understand the difference between forgiveness and trust just yet. And I don't think anyone here expects you to be a perfect person. There will be people here who forgive you (many already!) but don't trust you - and kudos to those who told you that plainly.

So these next few days,weeks, months are your chance to be yourself, be truthful, and gain the trust of those around you. Hard work, but definitely worth it. Don't slip back into your old habits.

The internet can be a bad, bad thing if used the wrong way. It can also be a great refuge. Use this forum as a place for positive energy, and I think you will feel better soon.

Your friend in Brooklyn,
Elizabeth

[Ryuu]

I am trying as hard as I can, I cant say it enough, im stupid for ruining what could have been a chance to learn, and to have friends, and many other oppertinetys that will not be there because of my stupidity.

[Abbeys_Mom]

I take everything on the internet with a grain of salt. Also, when something sounds to good to be true, it usually is. I judge people by what they do, not what they say. My one suggestion is to quit while you're ahead. I have met a lot of bull "shooter" (not wanting to break any rules, but you all know what I mean) and they never make for good friends IMO.

[GouramiGal]

Yes, but you can't go back and change the past, can you?

What I'm trying to point out to you is that you have a new, wonderful opporunity to be yourself and be happy about it. Yes, it's going to be hard, like I'm sure it is now. You're probably miserable today.

But if you approach all of this the right way, it can be really great for you too.

Do you see what I mean? :19:

[Ryuu]

Dont dwell on teh past right. I am miserable today, I never thought that I would do this, its as if a blind fold has been over my eyes the entire time, yet I know it was my own brain that though of the stuff. My own hands that had typed it. And myself who caused it. I am trying to seize teh opportunity to become a helpfull, and good member that I have always wanted to be, and will always remember the past. As in the movie meet the robinsons, all you can do is keep moving forward

[GouramiGal]

Well, send me a pm if you think it would help to talk more about it. Hang in there, you're doing fine! :19:

[Ryuu]

I shall try. I just hope that my actions wont affect the future to badly.

[CAllain]

As others have said, there are probably a lot of people on the internet that stretch the truth and don't come forward. The internet makes it so easy for people to do so, as you most likely won't meet most of the people you talk to online so it's easier to hide yourself behind a facade for whatever reason (I knew guys who used to pretend to be tall, slim, blonde women just for laughs), but the main thing is you took a big step in deciding you didn't want to do this, and you want to be yourself.

Don't beat yourself up over what you have done, but instead focus on what you want to do from now on. You haven't ruined any opportunities, because those opportunities have opened up again for you now.

Personally, I feel I can trust you more on this site than some of the other members as you've admitted that you've lied which for me, means you're determined to try not to in future, whereas we don't know anything about anyone else. There's no way for us to check up on if we're telling the truth about ourselves, so you can never know for sure anyway.

No offense meant to anyone else though - unless you say something completely unbelievable I'll most likely be giving you the benefit of the doubt, but maybe with a grain of salt ;-)

[Ryuu]

Thank you. Like Ive said over and over, I couldnt live with myself like this, I wasnt raised to lie, yet hiding who I was seemed easier than opening up. Thank you so much everyone.

[smaug]

Im not recomending a "punishment" for Ryuu.It is his choice to either go through with it or not.The awards system on this site is a great thing as are the rep point system.They lose there value as a measure of trust if they are given for false information.I too do not believe everything I see on the net,this is the only site I frequent and truly enjoy coming to.Ryuu has stated that he would like to start over and agreed one of the ways to do that would be to renounce reps and awards,that shows he is serious to me.I agree there are awards that should be kept because it wouldnt matter how they were attained,by all means keep them,give up the reps and start over and earn them with valuable information given in good faith.I will not hold Ryuu's past against him.

[Ryuu]

I had agreed, Im not sure who can take the stuff away tho, like I said, if someone could do that, it would be greatly appreciated.

[smaug]

I know you agreed.That showed me good faith.Its up to a mod now to decide if they want to do it.

[Ryuu]

I can also create a new account. If need be.

[Billythefish]

Dude your sorry sweet lol... now lets move on..

[Ryuu]

Still, I totally understand smaugs idea, and if thats what it takes, I shall do it

[Billythefish]

Dude you came clean and told us all how sorry you are so with that done.. Time to move on befor you get on are nerves feeling sorry for your self lol

[Ryuu]

Alright lol, I dont want to get on anyones nerves. Trust me I dont feel sorry for myself, I feel sorry for the people that were victums to my lies...

[Billythefish]

Sod em!!! Thay will get over it if this thread ever gets removed! Haha:hmm3grin2orange:

[Ryuu]

Lol, lets hope it does, hate old memories...