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JZ1276
12-14-2006, 07:18 AM
Just curious why everyone recommends a 55 gl tank with an oscar. I've had the same tank now for 15 years (29 GL) and only have owned Oscars. Never kept more than 2 in the tank at a time. They all have grown well over 10" long .

Abbeys_Mom
12-14-2006, 01:53 PM
I had an Oscar in a 55g and he got to be 12". I found him a new home when he got that big, because he didn't seem happy with the size of the tank. His tail would brush the glass when he turned around. I know that the maximum tank size for fish is dependent on a lot of factors, but in the case of my Oscar at least, a 55g was too small.

Fishguy2727
12-14-2006, 01:58 PM
Because that is cruel for the fish. Look at how much room they have. Thats equivalent to you living in a bathroom. Even prisoners get more room than that and they have earned it to be that small. What did that fish do to deserve worse than a prisoner? Actually most people suggest 75 for oscars. Imagine how big they would have grown if you had the proper sized tank. A smaller tank like that also requires a huge amount of effort on the part of the fishkeeper just to keep it going, and even then it is not equivalent to being in a properly maintained appropriately sized tank. I have never once seen any suggestion for oscar to be in any less than a 55. Maybe some stores will list it as minimum tank size but they are usually referrring to the current size of the fish, not full grown.

Severus
12-14-2006, 03:25 PM
When i see 55 as a recommendation it is the absolute minimum for 1 Oscar alone. No other tank mates. I would personally rather keep an Oscar in at least a 75gal. You should really move your Oscar to a larger tank. Think about what reptileguy said.

jeffs99dime
12-14-2006, 09:36 PM
yeah, your tank is way, way too small. (for oscars that is)

jman
12-15-2006, 01:48 AM
Because that is cruel for the fish. Look at how much room they have. Thats equivalent to you living in a bathroom. Even prisoners get more room than that and they have earned it to be that small. What did that fish do to deserve worse than a prisoner? Actually most people suggest 75 for oscars. Imagine how big they would have grown if you had the proper sized tank. A smaller tank like that also requires a huge amount of effort on the part of the fishkeeper just to keep it going, and even then it is not equivalent to being in a properly maintained appropriately sized tank. I have never once seen any suggestion for oscar to be in any less than a 55. Maybe some stores will list it as minimum tank size but they are usually referrring to the current size of the fish, not full grown.

i totally agree if sometimes people tend to think it is o.k. for fish to be crammed in a tank that has space just enough for that same fish 3 or for more of them. that is like jail. never been, never going, never put fish there.

Fishguy2727
12-15-2006, 02:06 AM
People put them in too small of a tank, they go to jail for animal cruelty (I know, that doesn't actually happen, like it should), then in prison they get more space than the fish got.

jeffs99dime
12-15-2006, 02:09 AM
and they eat better

jman
12-15-2006, 02:11 AM
hahahahahah
your so right

Severus
12-15-2006, 03:51 AM
and they eat better

very true haha

Wallyfish
12-15-2006, 04:14 AM
don't feed the troll

JZ1276
12-15-2006, 07:05 AM
ok i guess this wknd ill be going out and getting a bigger tank

jeffs99dime
12-15-2006, 06:15 PM
very good idea.:thumb:

Fishguy2727
12-15-2006, 08:04 PM
Let us know what you get. Any size in mind? What filtration are you thinking of?

Lady Hobbs
12-15-2006, 08:32 PM
Yes, a much larger tank is needed for that species of fish. You will have a much happier fish if he has the room he deserves.

jman
12-15-2006, 11:14 PM
JZ1276 is that an oscar and is it yours in your avatar? Looks b-e-a-u-tiful!!!

JZ1276
12-16-2006, 07:57 AM
Let us know what you get. Any size in mind? What filtration are you thinking of?

I have to measure to see what will fit in the space i want it. At least a 55 gl. I'll probably use the same filters I have now. A whisper 20-40 and Biowheel 330

JZ1276
12-16-2006, 07:57 AM
JZ1276 is that an oscar and is it yours in your avatar? Looks b-e-a-u-tiful!!!

Thanks. Yeah, its an albino about 2 years old.

Fishguy2727
12-16-2006, 01:42 PM
In a bigger tank you will want to step up the filtration. Whatever a filter claims it can handle 'up to', cut that in half. And for big cichlids I would add even more. My 15" jaguar cichlid's 75 has a Fluval 405 and 2 Whisper 60s. I makes things a lot easier, so if it is in the budget that is what I would do.

jman
12-16-2006, 08:49 PM
Fluval's are good at least for me.

Severus
12-18-2006, 03:52 AM
Yea definitely a nice canister filter, and a decent biowheel or even a HOB

jeffs99dime
12-18-2006, 08:23 PM
agree to agree lol

Severus
12-19-2006, 04:16 AM
definitely jeff. Filtration is key when it comes to Oscars. My 7" oscar is the messiest fish i have ever kept.

jeffs99dime
12-19-2006, 04:40 AM
yeah. i had a full-grown oscar a long time ago. very messy. filtration and wc's are vital.

TehTANK
12-19-2006, 01:26 PM
I have a full grown oscar who is 9 inches long and a smaller oscar that is still growing that is about 4 inches long right now. They are pretty messy. I do a 70% water change every week and have major filtration on my 90 gallon tank. To be honest though it is all worth it. They are the most awesome fish ever with their crazy personalities and what not. I love those fish!

DIGITAL
02-24-2007, 05:59 PM
The smallest tank I ever had an Oscar in was 45G. He's alone in there, so he should be fine. I'm guaging this off the fact that a 90G is good for 2 O's, and 125 is good for 3 O's, and 180 for 4 O's.

I got my breeding pair of albino's is a 90G with a 6" pleco.

Drumachine09
02-24-2007, 06:02 PM
You should do 55 for one, 75-90 for two, 100-125 for three, and 150+ for four.