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Abbeys_Mom
06-09-2008, 09:26 PM
Hi to all those still here :)
Haven't been around in a while.

Here's the story...
1. Bought 1 Angelfish from Petsmart.
2. Angelfish bit the dust in less then 12 hours.
3. Returned said Angelfish.
4. Ask for 2 convicts.
5. Brought fish home.
6. Looked on internet.
7. Decided fish we actually Turquoise Severum (which were kept in same tank)
8. Decided that Petsmart was out of convicts and "fish staff" had no idea what they were doing.
9. I now scrambling for a different tank.

I will post pics soon, but here is a brief description of the fish.

Roundish cichlid, reminds me of a festivum (without the long pectorals)
Has a pretty pronounced bar of black near the tail. Turns barred when confronted. Sometimes has small blues dots near the gills to about halfway back. Base colour is a dark grey/beige, never gets white. Bars are black-grey. They seem pretty docile and are nervous around the kribs in the tank. Seem to prefer plants to meat.

Sound like Convicts or Severum?

P.S. If they are Severum, then I got an amazing deal.

Drumachine09
06-09-2008, 09:28 PM
Hard to tell without a pic.


Haven't seen you in forever, how ya been?



Also, if it is a Severum, and you can get a big enough tank for it, I reccomend keeping it. They are great fish.

cocoa_pleco
06-09-2008, 09:30 PM
i would need a pic, if it is a severum try to get a 75g for him

Evil Slimy
06-09-2008, 09:38 PM
Sounds like severum. As recommended go for at least a 75g tank. Assuming you keep them well they will grow really quick. About an inch per month until they get to 6" or so, then they slow down and start putting on girth, so they'll either be stunted or outgrow your 27g much too quick.
With two of them you might get into aggression issues as they grow even in a large tank and especially if they are both males.

Abbeys_Mom
06-09-2008, 09:57 PM
Here's a pic. The largest tank I have is 55g and it's currently dry.
Not sure what I am going to do if they are severum.
I think they are male and female.

cocoa_pleco
06-09-2008, 10:00 PM
def. a severum, 75g would be good for the pair

Abbeys_Mom
06-09-2008, 10:02 PM
Yeah, so I got 2 Turquoise Severum for $6.99.

Billythefish
06-09-2008, 10:04 PM
Yep and its a girl!

Abbeys_Mom
06-09-2008, 10:07 PM
Anyone willing to mail me a 75g tank :18:

Abbeys_Mom
06-09-2008, 10:10 PM
Yep and its a girl!
After a second look, I would say they are both girls. Is that going to be a problem (aggression wise?)

Evil Slimy
06-09-2008, 10:17 PM
Severum are really hard to sex when they are juveniles. I really would not jump to any conclusions yet. Even using patterns on the face has turned out to be an unreliable method. I would say just keep your mind open about what they will eventually turn out to be and be prepared to deal with it.
In your situation I would return both.

Abbeys_Mom
06-09-2008, 10:33 PM
I am willing to upgrade as the need arises. I can have the 55g up and cycled in less then a month. I am scanning the online buy/sell sites for a good deal on a bigger tank. They can have the big tank all to themselves. For now, I'll see how it goes, as it's a deal that I am not ready to pass up :)

Drumachine09
06-09-2008, 10:36 PM
I believe that one is a green severum. I'm comparing it to the one in my tank.

Drumachine09
06-09-2008, 10:37 PM
I am willing to upgrade as the need arises. I can have the 55g up and cycled in less then a month. I am scanning the online buy/sell sites for a good deal on a bigger tank. They can have the big tank all to themselves. For now, I'll see how it goes, as it's a deal that I am not ready to pass up :)



It will be fine in the 55. They don't get nearly as large as oscars.

Billythefish
06-09-2008, 10:38 PM
After a second look, I would say they are both girls. Is that going to be a problem (aggression wise?)
I found them to be a peacful fish and never had any trouble with them in mixed community tanks, so i don't for see a problem!
And i think its a girl because of the fin by its bottom! Males have much larger pointed flowing one's

Abbeys_Mom
06-09-2008, 10:51 PM
They were selling them as Turquoise, but I would say they are green as well. Certainly, not convicts. I am just deciding on whether to bother setting up the 55g, or upgrading to a 75 (or bigger, fingers crossed) As I am in a small apartment, a bigger tank then 55g is not really an option space wise. We are hoping to move soon (with in the next year), so I might wait until then if I can. If I don't get a bigger tank, then I may just keep one and sell the other.

crackatinny
06-09-2008, 10:53 PM
About time you came back, good to see you:19:

Lady Hobbs
06-09-2008, 10:55 PM
Hi there! So nice to see you again.

For me, my choice would have to be severum. Nicer fish and less aggressive.

Abbeys_Mom
06-09-2008, 10:57 PM
Glad to be back. Health isn't the best, so I am on the computer more lately. Plus, with the heat wave we have been having (which sucked when I had to take a dead fish back to the store, lol) it's been nice to be indoors.

Lady Hobbs
06-09-2008, 11:03 PM
Nice looking fish and you got one heck of a deal, too. That's the one fish I have yet to get that I want. I still want a severum and some neons and I do believe I will be sooooo done with this!

Evil Slimy
06-09-2008, 11:38 PM
How much do you guys normally pay for severum? They are 5.99 at this petsmart and $7.99 at the LFS.

Drumachine09
06-09-2008, 11:48 PM
$8 for Tourquoise, $10 for golds, and $13 for greens here.

Abbeys_Mom
06-09-2008, 11:51 PM
They were listed as $7.99 each I think and I got 2 for $6.99. I was supposed to be getting the 2 convicts for $3.99 each. $6.99 was the price for a small Angelfish, which is the fish I was returning

Evil Slimy
06-10-2008, 12:00 AM
$8 for Tourquoise, $10 for golds, and $13 for greens here.
I'm moving to Kansas and breeding severum.

Abbeys_Mom, glad to see you are willing to do the right thing as far as tank size is concerned. They are a great fish. Lot of personality, bit of a messy eater, onmivorous and always hungry. I generally don't name my fish, but Mr.Pig seemed very appropriate for mine. It's a juvenile, but it went through 12 (formerly live) ghost shrimp in a day, its belly was rounder than mine and it still had the nerve to ask for more food as if it was dieing of starvation.

Abbeys_Mom
06-10-2008, 12:19 AM
I learned my lesson after the LFS told me I could keep 2 Oscars in my 55g. I had 2 in there until they were about 6 months old, then got rid of one. When the other one got to be over a foot and a half long, it was time to give up. I was so embarrassed when I had to call a fish rescue place and have them come and take him. We had to use a shopping bag to get him out of the tank. Since then, I alway check before I buy fish. This time though, I thought I was getting Cons and ended up with severum.

Drumachine09
06-10-2008, 12:57 AM
I'm moving to Kansas and breeding severum.



They are cheaper at petsmart/petco, but they aren't nearly as colorful, and I hate buying fish from chain stores.

Nick89
06-10-2008, 12:59 AM
Cocoa what are you talking about? a 75g for a severum?? You could keep 1-2 in a 55 comfortably as long as you have good filtration.. They dont get bigger than 10" the most, and the 55g is 12" from front to back which is fine..

cocoa_pleco
06-10-2008, 01:55 AM
here, turquoise are $2, $4 for golds, and $2.49 for greens

sox, ive seen large severums, largest ive seen was at least 12", it had good size to it, no way it would have had room to turn around in a 55g since 55g's are only 12" wide, 75g gives you more width so it could turn around

Drumachine09
06-10-2008, 02:09 AM
here, turquoise are $2, $4 for golds, and $2.49 for greens

sox, ive seen large severums, largest ive seen was at least 12", it had good size to it, no way it would have had room to turn around in a 55g since 55g's are only 12" wide, 75g gives you more width so it could turn around



Key word largest. The VAST majority of severums make it to only 8-10 inches before they stop growing.

Nick89
06-10-2008, 02:15 AM
Key word largest. The VAST majority of severums make it to only 8-10 inches before they stop growing.

Exactly.. And unless you measured it, and not assume it was 12" or guess, then you really dont know for sure.. BUt more than likely as drum said they get 8-10" .

Billythefish
06-10-2008, 02:43 AM
I had one for 3years and it only got to 5'' living in a 40g so i'd say she has time on her hands if she dose need a 75g

Incredulous_Ed
06-10-2008, 02:48 AM
Hey liz, How dare you show bback up and not say hi to me!!

Well anyway,

Hi, wecome back!

Pterophyllum
03-07-2009, 05:42 PM
Yeah, so I got 2 Turquoise Severum for $6.99.
Woah

Good deal!

Pterophyllum
03-07-2009, 05:47 PM
Hmm, since you have severums on your photos that you posted.. you can have just one severum, they can take care of themselves now :)

If you have 2, you don't need a 75 gallon until they out grow the 55 gallon or what ever tank you have.

As long as they are still tiny, they don't grow extremely fast until you keep them for about 6 months.

Then after that, you can move them into bigger tanks and even bigger tanks :)

Just remember, since severums are south american fishes.. they grow big, and will eat any fish that can fit into their mouths.

Also, severums will nip the fins of angelfishes if you ever keep them in.. but that is only when the severum is bigger than the angel.

Also angels can get extremely aggressive to any fish that messes with their fins.

it's just like a human pulling on someone's hair. That makes them mad :)

Good luck!

btate617
03-07-2009, 05:51 PM
Woah

Good deal!

Just thought I would let ya know this post is from June last year.....

Wild Turkey
03-07-2009, 06:58 PM
As long as they are still tiny, they don't grow extremely fast until you keep them for about 6 months.

Then after that, you can move them into bigger tanks and even bigger tanks :)

Just remember, since severums are south american fishes.. they grow big, and will eat any fish that can fit into their mouths.



Lol......what?

This thread is nine months old by the way.

cocoa_pleco
03-08-2009, 01:03 AM
old thread