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MandyL
05-25-2008, 05:25 AM
Just considering all my options and after seeing Fishguy's Goldfish aquarium, I really think they are gorgeous. I am wondering how many fancy goldfish I could put in my 65 gallon? I am thinking Ryukin, Oranda, those types. What kind of environment/decor do they like? And approx. how long does it take a little goldie to grow to 6" or more? Any thoughts?

cocoa_pleco
05-25-2008, 05:26 AM
its usually 20g for the first goldfish, and 10g thereafter, so i would say you could go for 6 goldfish, or 5 goldfish and a weather loach.

shalafi04
05-25-2008, 07:11 AM
id say 5 or 6 as well. I love my goldfish tank, you'll be super happy if ya set it up. They are always entertaining

angelcakes
05-25-2008, 08:44 AM
agreed i would say 5-6 i started fish keeping with coldwater fish,and weather loches are good full of personality:19:

MandyL
05-25-2008, 10:23 PM
Are goldfish territorial at all? I am assuming no, but just want to make sure there's no problem with adding them a couple at a time, at different sizes etc.

angelcakes
05-25-2008, 10:26 PM
no not territorial............you can add a couple at a time

Fishguy2727
05-25-2008, 11:11 PM
If you are not used to goldfish I would start with three or four. As they get bigger and you get used to dealing with them you can add one or two more.

There is a big (and still not finished) article on goldfish in my blog.

Sand, plants, no sharp or rough decor. Not territorial, they are schooling.

They grow at verying rates. Expect about a year to get to 6".

MandyL
05-25-2008, 11:18 PM
Nope I'm not used to them at all, always had tropical fish. I read your article. :)

I am wondering if I can find dark rocks with no sharp edges for it. I would like to do something different than the plants and wood I have in the community tank, and the dark rocks would contrast nicely.

What plants have you used, that they don't eat?

If I decide to do the goldfish that is... ;)

Halelorf
05-25-2008, 11:27 PM
Mine ate every plant I tried but i've heard they usually leave anubias nana alone.

angelcakes
05-25-2008, 11:35 PM
Mine ate every plant I tried but i've heard they usually leave anubias nana alone.
that is true even koi leave them alone

Fishguy2727
05-25-2008, 11:50 PM
They nip at a few a little bit, but not much.

I have or have had them with:
anacharis
wisteria
vals
cabomba
ambulia
moneywort
amazon sword
radican sword
giant hygrophila
moss ball
hornwort
crystalwort
red ludwigia

Halelorf
05-26-2008, 04:12 AM
Mine destroyed:

Amazon Sword
Italian Val
Green and Red Tiger Lotus
Duck Weed
Hornwort
Red Foxtail
Java Fern
Moss Ball


I stopped putting live plants in after that list :D. I was tempted to try anubias nana but they got moved into my pond before that. I think the key to getting live plants in the tank is having the plants growing before the fish take up residence and having a ton of them. Goldfish are awesome and will always be my favorite fish. Once you get attached to a couple of fancys you won't want to be without a goldfish tank.

Fishguy2727
05-26-2008, 02:17 PM
One of the biggest things is the diet. If they have a truly complete and well-balanced diet they don't have the cravings for certain things. I feed New Life Spectrum. This seems to make all the difference. Someone on another forum uses a gel based that where you put in all the ingredients and her formula seems to have about the same results.

MandyL
05-26-2008, 07:20 PM
I'm just about sold on them... I really like the fact that they have cute little personalities, and without the aggression problems I'd see in African cichlids.

I'm thinking about the dark rocks and then some Amazon Swords and Vals growing behind/through the rocks... They are ok in the cooler temp? I think without a heater in my house the tank would stay at around 68F. I do feed NLS exclusively so I guess I'll test that theory as well. :)

Guess I will set it up with the sand and rocks now, and wait to cycle until after my trip in June (back June 18). Although since I am seeding, it shouldn't take long to cycle.

Halelorf
05-26-2008, 07:43 PM
I would say that the plants should be fine at the temp. If you are getting fancy goldfish you could easily put a heater in the tank to keep it in the 70s no problem to help the plants more. I would just load up with as many plants as you can. Good luck with your tank! I can't wait for you to get some goldies that act like little puppys.

angelcakes
05-26-2008, 07:44 PM
keep the temp at 72 its a good temp for goldfish if you decide to use the heater

MandyL
05-26-2008, 10:14 PM
Fishguy, which NLS do you feed your goldies? Currently I just have the small fish (.5mm sinking) and the sinking wafers.

Halelorf
05-26-2008, 11:39 PM
There is a NLS that is for goldfish but they are all pretty much the same. Just find one that is the right size pellet.

Fishguy2727
05-27-2008, 02:53 AM
On sand just focus on pellet size. I feed mine the Large Fish Formula, 3mm sinking.

donvichu
06-03-2008, 03:23 AM
I have about 6 gold fishes in my 10g a\tank,2 black moores are smaller and normal gold fishes(2 are small too).the third pair the lion head gold is little big and very active fellows

Arkie
06-03-2008, 05:10 AM
6 goldfish in a 10 gallon?
i think they require 20 gallons for one goldfish and an additional 10 gallon for each one after that...... thats right yeah? fishguy..... help!!!!!!! im confused lol

donvichu
06-03-2008, 11:59 AM
6 goldfish in a 10 gallon?
i think they require 20 gallons for one goldfish and an additional 10 gallon for each one after that...... thats right yeah? fishguy..... help!!!!!!! im confused lol


I am moving the goldies to a 60 g tank and move my 5.5" pearl arowana from 60 G to A 250 G tank,in the current 10 G planning to put in a few gouramis

Fishguy2727
06-03-2008, 01:57 PM
Ugrade NOW! They need it. Honestly you are asking for problems.

What species of gouramis? Most cannot fit a few in a 10.

donvichu
06-03-2008, 06:09 PM
Ugrade NOW! They need it. Honestly you are asking for problems.

What species of gouramis? Most cannot fit a few in a 10.

I have not decided on the fishes for 10G yet :11: ,probably I'll look into it after I settle these fishes in their home :c3:

Fishguy2727
06-03-2008, 06:25 PM
That's fine, just upgrade those goldfish asap.

Mvjnz
06-05-2008, 05:34 AM
its usually 20g for the first goldfish, and 10g thereafter, so i would say you could go for 6 goldfish, or 5 goldfish and a weather loach.

Weather loaches, like most loaches, need to be kept in a group of at least 3. So getting 1 for the goldfish tank is not a good idea.