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Lady Hobbs
10-28-2006, 11:55 AM
I would like to try my hand at cichlids. What I would like is 2 blood parrots, 1 severum and whatever may go with them. A friend keeps her angelfish with them so Mr Ornery Angelfish will need to keep them company.

But I am confused as to what cichlid can go with what. I don't know if New World, Africian or whatever should be purchased. I know the keyhole and the kribs are OK but what about some of the other smaller cichlids that are relatively peaceful? I have read that the German Blue Rams are peaceful as well as the yellow labs and electric blues but I don't know about mixing different region cichlid.

When I do a compatiblity check, it says the German Blue and keyholes are not compatible but both are said to be peaceful.

Can you tell me what cichlids you have and what gets on well with others?

Hey Kimmers.........I now am seeing German Gold Rams online for sale. Pretty. Might be nice with your Blues?

Fishguy2727
10-28-2006, 01:08 PM
what size tank? what filtration? what water change schedule? blue rams are very peaceful and good for a regular community tank, not really with most other cichlids. and african rift lake cichlids should not be mixed with other types of fish. when you hear that labs and electric blues are peaceful, thats on african rift lake standards, not regular standards. in addition to temperment, an important aspect of compatibility is water parameters. if kribs need 7.4 (im not sure what it is off hand) and rams need 6.4, even though they may both be peaceful, they are not compatible.

Lady Hobbs
10-28-2006, 01:28 PM
I knew this would be hard. I am a total green horn at cichlids!!

First of all, the parrots and severums may not be such a hot choice. My water comes right from the tap at 7.6 which is not ridiculously high but still higher than these fish like. I am thinking no less than a 55 gallon tank and possibly 75.

I would like to squeek by by using two bio-wheels as filteration on both ends of the tank but may also go with canister. I'd rather not due to space. I'm thinking two of the larger bio-wheels should be plenty?

I just don't know if I should fill the tank with cichlids or try to have my centerpiece fish (severum/blood parrots). My other 55 gallon will be turned into a rainbow tank.

Fishguy2727
10-29-2006, 03:51 AM
go with the biggest tank you can afford to properly setup. canisters are a great idea and will be worth it. the biowheels dont have that great of mechanical so between the superior bio of the biwheels, and the superior mechanical and chemical of the fluval 405, your fish should thrive. check out peacock african cichlids. they are a higher pH than your tap (and its much easier to go up than down) and arent as aggressive as the mbunas. with cichlids you are much more likely to have too little than too much (as if there is such a thing) filtration. i would do 2 biowheel filters and a fluval 405.

Lady Hobbs
10-29-2006, 01:28 PM
Finding fish that do well with parrots and severums are a problem. I've heard keyhole and kribs do fine with them. Problem, also, is parrots and severums like a lower pH and most other cichlids are higher. I may have to forgo my thoughts on the severum totally due to the pH.

Thanks for your post.

Fishguy2727
10-29-2006, 01:43 PM
you need fish that will deal with your tap water's pH and hardness or higher unless you want more work and possibly money to be needed. that pretty much leaves you with the african rift lake cichlids. and the best bet with those are going to be the peacocks. so ditch the other plans and start diving into the peacocks.

Lady Hobbs
10-29-2006, 02:35 PM
Thank you. Will check them out now.

kimmers318
10-29-2006, 02:59 PM
Good luck with your cichlid set up, I am sure you will end up with a beautiful tank whichever way you go.

As for adding gold rams to my blues....I don't have the blues any longer. My original male was doing well, but he was not peaceful by any means. He wouldn't tolerate the female rams I purchased for him or a bolivian ram. Unfortunately I believe the 1 female brought with her an internal bacteria and I ended up losing all 3. I didn't quarantine them since they came from the same supplier and I already had my 2 dwarf gourami quarantined as new purchases so I took my chances and lost.

Lady Hobbs
10-29-2006, 03:05 PM
that pretty much leaves you with the african rift lake cichlids. and the best bet with those are going to be the peacocks. so ditch the other plans and start diving into the peacocks.

OK Then to get the rift lake cichlid, I then need to divide them into each lake such as Victoria, Lake Tanganyika or Lake Malawi?

Man, it's sure easier to get a drawf and throw him in the tank. Learning about cichlids is a whole new ballgame.

Fishguy2727
10-29-2006, 04:00 PM
go with malawi. and in that lake are three types of cichlids, mbuna, peacocks, and utakas. out of those go with the peacocks. so start researching and asking qs.

CJ1
11-04-2006, 04:41 PM
What are the normal water conditions in your tanks? If you have liquid rock for water, go with the African cichlids. If your water is soft with a low ph, go south american. Were I live the water is liquid rock and the rift lake fish do great. If you're careful, you can mix a bit cichlids from different lakes. Going with any one of the rift lakes is a good way to go.

Fishguy2727
11-05-2006, 01:42 AM
It is very easy to bring pH and hardness up, but very hard to bring and keep it down. So if your tap is soft you go with either soft water or hard water species, whereas if you have hard water you should stick with the hard water species.

Lady Hobbs
11-06-2006, 04:18 AM
Too many fish, so little time (and space.) I really like rainbows, too, and was almost thinking of going that way but so many of them only reach 3" that they is no reason I can't add a few of them to my existing 55 gallon and still have that cichlid tank. Here I go again.......searching for peacocks. :)