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Incredulous_Ed
02-25-2008, 07:42 PM
The last remaining borellii has the shimmys. Is it contageous? What should I do? I raised the temp to around 82.

fins_n_fur
02-25-2008, 07:54 PM
Oh no, _Ed...that is awful to hear. I'm sorry--what a bummer.

Incredulous_Ed
02-25-2008, 08:00 PM
It is. Man, next time I am so going for cactauoides.

fishfanatic33
02-25-2008, 08:27 PM
Oh,no not AGAIN. Man Ed sorry you are having a tough time. I wish there was some sure-fire solution,but I don't think there is

NickFish
02-26-2008, 12:55 AM
There isn't much you can that will guarentee their survival.

There are a couple medications you could try. Sometimes they work sometimes they don't. I've heard malachite green works too, if thats still legal I don't know.

Cacatuiodes are nice fish too, especially the males...BEAUTIFUL!

Incredulous_Ed
02-26-2008, 07:25 PM
Does anyone know WHY she has the shimmies? The water quality is good. Is it contagious?

Nautilus291
02-26-2008, 07:42 PM
Maybe you should have somebody inspect your water supply. I know I started having a bunch of problems and figured out it was my water.

Incredulous_Ed
02-26-2008, 07:47 PM
Really? what was in it? Maybe that is the problem because I have bene having mysterious fish deaths and stuffs.

Nautilus291
02-26-2008, 07:56 PM
First of all I have a ton of Iron in my water actually so much that my water comes out black. Secondly Since my well water and cistern water are hooked up together My water was contaminated with a bunch of bacteria. Not too good for my fish. I kept loosing a fish here and A fish there and then all of a sudden my ebjd got popeye in both eyes. Thats when I decided to look into it and I figured out it was my water.

Incredulous_Ed
02-26-2008, 08:00 PM
Did you have to call the water company or or use test kits or what?

Fishalicious
02-26-2008, 08:10 PM
Shimmying is usually due to bacterial toxins mainly vibriosis - you could try Antibiotics... but you will have to be quick.

Otherwise try placing her into another tank

I am sooooooo sorry - so sad!!! If you do go for apisto's again try and make sure you get older ones ...

<hugs>

Incredulous_Ed
02-26-2008, 08:58 PM
All I have on hand are pima and melafix, and some malachite green. What should I do then jess?

Also, if she happens to die :( and I buy some more apistos, will it spread to them as well?

Fishalicious
02-26-2008, 09:02 PM
If it is bacterial as mentioned above it could effect any of your fish once their immune system is lowered from stress...

It could have effected these little guys as their immune system was lowered from the travel etc. It could also explain your mystery deaths..

The symptoms of vibriosis in fish are:
Fish shimmying, rapid gilling (respiration), hanging in one place, apparent weight loss in small fish, fish death

Antibiotics are the only thing that will help if it is this....Neomycin at 250 mg/gal and Streptomycin at 40 mg/gal

Incredulous_Ed
02-26-2008, 09:23 PM
Thanks. I'll see what I can do antibioticwise. Should I isolate her or treat the whole tank?

cocoa_pleco
02-26-2008, 09:23 PM
another form to treat shimmy is to buy a shimmy block

Incredulous_Ed
02-26-2008, 09:24 PM
Whats that???

cocoa_pleco
02-26-2008, 09:26 PM
its a medicine block to treat shimmy, you just place it in the tank

Incredulous_Ed
02-26-2008, 11:11 PM
Where woudl I get it?

cocoa_pleco
02-26-2008, 11:20 PM
most pet stores have them

Incredulous_Ed
02-27-2008, 03:58 AM
k, i'll look for them. Where can I get the anti bitics Jess mentioned?

cocoa_pleco
02-27-2008, 04:06 AM
try pharmacies

Incredulous_Ed
02-27-2008, 04:14 AM
wouldnt i need a prescription?

cocoa_pleco
02-27-2008, 04:25 AM
sometimes you dont

Incredulous_Ed
02-27-2008, 04:31 AM
cool. AR ethere any fish meds that contain them?

cocoa_pleco
02-27-2008, 04:41 AM
no idea, i would wait for fishalicious

Incredulous_Ed
02-27-2008, 04:59 AM
OK. Thanks though man.

Fishalicious
02-27-2008, 09:58 AM
The Biotics should be available over the counter... I am not aware of any aqua meds with them in it - you can buy specialized fish antibiotics online but if it comes down to it they contain the same but cost more I reckon if specialized for fish.

Have you tried setting her apart and raising the temp to 85?

Incredulous_Ed
02-27-2008, 08:28 PM
I can try that. Should I just move her to the empty 5 gal where it would be easier to feed and medicate?

Fishalicious
02-27-2008, 08:51 PM
I always move sick fish to medicate ... so my vote is yes ;)

Incredulous_Ed
02-28-2008, 04:33 AM
Ok, here's a video of the borellii in the 5gal tank. Does it look to you like she has the shimmys?? sorry for the poor quality, i could have done it in beter quality but didnt have the time (or disk space)

Fishalicious
02-28-2008, 07:34 AM
Did you forget to post the video?

In the video of your tank in the sig I get a rick asteley video??

Incredulous_Ed
02-28-2008, 08:01 PM
Sorry, forgot to paste the link!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1620746499745023498&hl=en

there it is.

And you've just been rickrolled!

Fishalicious
02-28-2008, 10:06 PM
Hahahaha was wondering how long it would take before I got rickrolled :ezpi_wink1:

I watched the video twice and I can't see anything out of the ordinary with the little lady - she looks perky and good to me.

Incredulous_Ed
02-28-2008, 10:18 PM
Are you sure? is it normal for them to kind of curl their tail fin a bit when they arent swimming? are you absolutley postively sure??????!?!?!?!?!?!? And it's a female, right?

Fishalicious
02-28-2008, 11:35 PM
From the vid I got the idea it was from the current that she was curling her tail... my female Macmasteri often curls her tail before she is going to change her swimming direction.

In the vid she does look a little insecure but she is still a baby - but she is happily swimming around and constantly picking for food...

If it is shimmying then usually they hang in one spot and do not move a lot and lose their appetite.

Maybe someone else will see or think something different...??? Hopefully someone else will reply with their thoughts

To be sure it is a female I would need a still foto of her ...

Spyder
02-29-2008, 12:02 AM
I agree, I don't see a problem with her/him. Actaully looks great, active, trying to eat.

Incredulous_Ed
02-29-2008, 04:32 AM
This is reassuring. Thanks! :) However, I did see her do the true shimmy once. She shook for a bit, then clamped her fins and shimmied. Do they just do that sometimes if they arent sick?

One more question, I may be possibly getting a show quality cactatuoides on saturday. Do you think it will be safe to put him the 20long? is there a possiblilty he might get sick?

Spyder
02-29-2008, 11:56 AM
Certain deseases are contagious, others are not. Impossible to say what could happen. When you get the new Cockatoo he will be stressed and at his weekest point so keep that in mind.

Incredulous_Ed
02-29-2008, 06:17 PM
What if I put him in the 20high with 2 bolivians rams. Too much aggresion?

Fishalicious
02-29-2008, 07:03 PM
They should be ok with the Bolivians - mine get on fine with my German Rams

Spyder
02-29-2008, 09:39 PM
I keep them with Bolivians too, no problem.

Incredulous_Ed
03-01-2008, 03:26 AM
ok, thanks so much!!!!!