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02-25-2008, 07:42 PM
The last remaining borellii has the shimmys. Is it contageous? What should I do? I raised the temp to around 82.

02-25-2008, 07:54 PM
Oh no, _Ed...that is awful to hear. I'm sorry--what a bummer.

02-25-2008, 08:00 PM
It is. Man, next time I am so going for cactauoides.

02-25-2008, 08:27 PM
Oh,no not AGAIN. Man Ed sorry you are having a tough time. I wish there was some sure-fire solution,but I don't think there is

02-26-2008, 12:55 AM
There isn't much you can that will guarentee their survival.

There are a couple medications you could try. Sometimes they work sometimes they don't. I've heard malachite green works too, if thats still legal I don't know.

Cacatuiodes are nice fish too, especially the males...BEAUTIFUL!

02-26-2008, 07:25 PM
Does anyone know WHY she has the shimmies? The water quality is good. Is it contagious?

02-26-2008, 07:42 PM
Maybe you should have somebody inspect your water supply. I know I started having a bunch of problems and figured out it was my water.

02-26-2008, 07:47 PM
Really? what was in it? Maybe that is the problem because I have bene having mysterious fish deaths and stuffs.

02-26-2008, 07:56 PM
First of all I have a ton of Iron in my water actually so much that my water comes out black. Secondly Since my well water and cistern water are hooked up together My water was contaminated with a bunch of bacteria. Not too good for my fish. I kept loosing a fish here and A fish there and then all of a sudden my ebjd got popeye in both eyes. Thats when I decided to look into it and I figured out it was my water.

02-26-2008, 08:00 PM
Did you have to call the water company or or use test kits or what?

02-26-2008, 08:10 PM
Shimmying is usually due to bacterial toxins mainly vibriosis - you could try Antibiotics... but you will have to be quick.

Otherwise try placing her into another tank

I am sooooooo sorry - so sad!!! If you do go for apisto's again try and make sure you get older ones ...


02-26-2008, 08:58 PM
All I have on hand are pima and melafix, and some malachite green. What should I do then jess?

Also, if she happens to die :( and I buy some more apistos, will it spread to them as well?

02-26-2008, 09:02 PM
If it is bacterial as mentioned above it could effect any of your fish once their immune system is lowered from stress...

It could have effected these little guys as their immune system was lowered from the travel etc. It could also explain your mystery deaths..

The symptoms of vibriosis in fish are:
Fish shimmying, rapid gilling (respiration), hanging in one place, apparent weight loss in small fish, fish death

Antibiotics are the only thing that will help if it is this....Neomycin at 250 mg/gal and Streptomycin at 40 mg/gal

02-26-2008, 09:23 PM
Thanks. I'll see what I can do antibioticwise. Should I isolate her or treat the whole tank?

02-26-2008, 09:23 PM
another form to treat shimmy is to buy a shimmy block

02-26-2008, 09:24 PM
Whats that???

02-26-2008, 09:26 PM
its a medicine block to treat shimmy, you just place it in the tank

02-26-2008, 11:11 PM
Where woudl I get it?

02-26-2008, 11:20 PM
most pet stores have them

02-27-2008, 03:58 AM
k, i'll look for them. Where can I get the anti bitics Jess mentioned?

02-27-2008, 04:06 AM
try pharmacies

02-27-2008, 04:14 AM
wouldnt i need a prescription?

02-27-2008, 04:25 AM
sometimes you dont

02-27-2008, 04:31 AM
cool. AR ethere any fish meds that contain them?

02-27-2008, 04:41 AM
no idea, i would wait for fishalicious

02-27-2008, 04:59 AM
OK. Thanks though man.

02-27-2008, 09:58 AM
The Biotics should be available over the counter... I am not aware of any aqua meds with them in it - you can buy specialized fish antibiotics online but if it comes down to it they contain the same but cost more I reckon if specialized for fish.

Have you tried setting her apart and raising the temp to 85?

02-27-2008, 08:28 PM
I can try that. Should I just move her to the empty 5 gal where it would be easier to feed and medicate?

02-27-2008, 08:51 PM
I always move sick fish to medicate ... so my vote is yes ;)

02-28-2008, 04:33 AM
Ok, here's a video of the borellii in the 5gal tank. Does it look to you like she has the shimmys?? sorry for the poor quality, i could have done it in beter quality but didnt have the time (or disk space)

02-28-2008, 07:34 AM
Did you forget to post the video?

In the video of your tank in the sig I get a rick asteley video??

02-28-2008, 08:01 PM
Sorry, forgot to paste the link!


there it is.

And you've just been rickrolled!

02-28-2008, 10:06 PM
Hahahaha was wondering how long it would take before I got rickrolled :ezpi_wink1:

I watched the video twice and I can't see anything out of the ordinary with the little lady - she looks perky and good to me.

02-28-2008, 10:18 PM
Are you sure? is it normal for them to kind of curl their tail fin a bit when they arent swimming? are you absolutley postively sure??????!?!?!?!?!?!? And it's a female, right?

02-28-2008, 11:35 PM
From the vid I got the idea it was from the current that she was curling her tail... my female Macmasteri often curls her tail before she is going to change her swimming direction.

In the vid she does look a little insecure but she is still a baby - but she is happily swimming around and constantly picking for food...

If it is shimmying then usually they hang in one spot and do not move a lot and lose their appetite.

Maybe someone else will see or think something different...??? Hopefully someone else will reply with their thoughts

To be sure it is a female I would need a still foto of her ...

02-29-2008, 12:02 AM
I agree, I don't see a problem with her/him. Actaully looks great, active, trying to eat.

02-29-2008, 04:32 AM
This is reassuring. Thanks! :) However, I did see her do the true shimmy once. She shook for a bit, then clamped her fins and shimmied. Do they just do that sometimes if they arent sick?

One more question, I may be possibly getting a show quality cactatuoides on saturday. Do you think it will be safe to put him the 20long? is there a possiblilty he might get sick?

02-29-2008, 11:56 AM
Certain deseases are contagious, others are not. Impossible to say what could happen. When you get the new Cockatoo he will be stressed and at his weekest point so keep that in mind.

02-29-2008, 06:17 PM
What if I put him in the 20high with 2 bolivians rams. Too much aggresion?

02-29-2008, 07:03 PM
They should be ok with the Bolivians - mine get on fine with my German Rams

02-29-2008, 09:39 PM
I keep them with Bolivians too, no problem.

03-01-2008, 03:26 AM
ok, thanks so much!!!!!