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AABatteries
02-09-2008, 12:24 PM
Yesterday I got an Amazon Sword for my 20g which has an UGF, but so the roots dont get sucked up I buried a piece of plastic to block the UGF from sucking in at certian area, then I planted my plant. But I think my problem is the lighting, but today I'm going go get some plant lights.

TowBoater
02-09-2008, 12:32 PM
UGF are useless. It is either your lighting or plant food source, as it fish not pooping enough or not enough iron. Amazons swords take a lot of nutrients from the water, that is why they are ideal for keeping algae away. They do need a lot of iron and a lot of light though.

AABatteries
02-09-2008, 01:54 PM
My pleco produces so much poop so thats fine, but I' goign to get plant light bulb today. Also I know the UGF is worthless. My dad wont let put on HOB.

smaug
02-09-2008, 02:38 PM
as khuli said,swords have to have an iron rich substrate they need more nutrients then fish poo alone will give,if you do not have an iron enriched substrate then I recomend flourish tabs,I have used them with good results.And you need better light but you have that in process.Good luck.

AABatteries
02-09-2008, 04:12 PM
What are flourish tabs?

fins_n_fur
02-09-2008, 04:36 PM
These are fertilizer tabs made by Seachem. See link below.

http://www.seachem.com/products/product_pages/FlourishTabs.html

AABatteries
02-09-2008, 04:51 PM
Would not havign a c02 system be a problem, from what I've read it wont.

jbeining75
02-09-2008, 04:55 PM
any kind of co2 injector is going to be advantageous as it injects needed nutrients into the water, flourish tabs also help out. The UGF is sucking out all the nutrients from the gravel probably. I'd try to explain to your dad peacefully that the hob would be far more beneficial than the ugf that is running....... good luck....

AABatteries
02-09-2008, 05:14 PM
I dont need the special light I already have one. :stongue:

smaug
02-09-2008, 10:23 PM
co2 can easily be supplied just using seachem excel.I use it exclusively with great results.

AABatteries
02-10-2008, 01:41 AM
I wasn't able to find an iron suppliment at my local pet store, I'll have to take a trip to the fish store.

TowBoater
02-10-2008, 01:58 AM
I use the fertilizer in the yellow bottle, don't remember the name. My amazon swords are doing great!!

smaug
02-10-2008, 02:53 AM
I use the fertilizer in the yellow bottle, don't remember the name. My amazon swords are doing great!!
I think thats tetra brand,even walmart carrys it,its a good iron fert.

AABatteries
02-10-2008, 01:37 PM
Will it harm the fish?

TowBoater
02-10-2008, 01:38 PM
Nope, I highly recommend that stuff, it works good!

smaug
02-10-2008, 01:45 PM
I think what khuli is referring to is Tetra brand FloraPride,it contains cheleated iron and pottasium,its a good product and I have used it in the past.For your swords however which feed heavily from the roots they need something in the substrate as well.I use seachem flourish tabs ,here is a link.
http://www.thatpetplace.com/pet/prod/198646/product.web
Im sorry I just saw someone else already recomended this.Ill read better next time.

AABatteries
02-10-2008, 02:17 PM
So you stick them in the gravel near the plant?

smaug
02-10-2008, 02:21 PM
So you stick them in the gravel near the plant?
basically.The directions say to distribute them throughout the tank,each one feeds a 10" circle.If you only have a few plants Id say to just use them at each plant,if you have your tank well planted then use them as instructed.They are about the size of half a hershey kiss.

AABatteries
02-10-2008, 07:27 PM
I only have one plant. :sbiggrin:

smaug
02-11-2008, 01:48 AM
I only have one plant. :sbiggrin:
then it will be one tab next to your one plant and 1 box will last you 1 year x3:c12:

AABatteries
02-19-2008, 02:22 PM
Should I cut of the leaves that are dead.