Bare minumin

[Harls]

What is the Bare minumun i could get away with for a 10G saltwater tankwithout any fish included. i want a fish only.

[cocoa_pleco]

the bare minimum for fish? cost? you could get a clown goby and clownfish, or a clownfish and firefish

[Harls]

i have a 2 foot/15 gallon tank that i want to use. i want to know what the price will just for evarything in the tank excluding fish gravel hermits.
i have the fish i want at the lfs. they are clownfish at $30. can they live alone??

[squirt_12]

well do you want coral??? without coral you are looking at around...$300-$500......around that. with coral..more as the light is expensive.

[cocoa_pleco]

yep, clownfish can live alone

[Fish Whisperer]

BARE MINIMUM:
Dolomite
Undergravel Filter
Salt
Hydrometer
Heater

[squirt_12]

BARE MINIMUM:
Dolomite
Undergravel Filter
Salt
Hydrometer
Heater
i wouldn't go with an undergravel filter as they arn't good at all.

you are looking at getting:
LR (live rock) almost need it - you CAN go without it but you should have it
filter - can use without LR but you still should use one for the first year with LR
heater
hydrometer
sale
live sand or argonite
powerhead
minimum lighting would be like 1-2wpg just for the LR
test kits for water

i think that all of the stuff you need is included in what i have written..

[Fish Whisperer]

The question was BARE MINIMUM...Hence my reply.
Bare minimum=UG

[unleashed]

UG are very very bad. He will most likely have a tank crash and end up just spending more than he needs to

[Fish Whisperer]

Oh please....Ug's were the only thing there was for years.
I personally had one for over a decade back in the 80's.

Certainly the evolution of the hobby has far transcended the UG. But no one can tell me they don't have a place for certain circumstances. There is absolutely nothing wrong with using one to get started in the hobby.


He wanted bare minimum... UG's are bare minimum..period.

[squirt_12]

they may be the "bare minimum" but as unleased said he will run into problems if he uses one....not only would it be bad in a FW tank but i would think that it would be twice as bad in a SW tank. They may have been the only things around for a while.....thats before technology was upgraded...now we have ALOT BETTER things....they may cost a few more dollars here and there.....but all around they arn't very good. I would use a standard filter. a HOB would work.

[cocoa_pleco]

dont really want to start a war but i would just spend a few bucks more for a HOB, if money is tight ebay has cheap aquaclears. by far the largest setback of a UGF is he wouldnt be able to have live sand or aragonite, just larger substrate like dolomite that wouldnt clog the UGF

[Incredulous_Ed]

UGF are not very good, because no matter how much you vacuum, you will not get all the crud out of the gravel. This can cause nitrate problems, as well as others. With a strong HOB and proper water movement, there will be very little crud on the substrate, keep the tank cleaner and happier.