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NickFish
12-12-2007, 09:35 PM
Hoping to get a cichild tank in a few months. What would be a good size tank without being to big and some good starter cichild fish. That would be able to share a tank of whatever size would be good. How does cichild care differ from other freshwater fish care? What should they be fed?
Any advice if appriciated.
Thanks

Fishguy2727
12-12-2007, 10:04 PM
All my fish get nothing but New Life Spectrum food, and are much better for it.

What size tank is it?

Usually cichlids are a little more aggressive and dirtier.

Were there any cichlids you had in mind?

NickFish
12-13-2007, 12:28 PM
I don't have a tank picked out yet I am looking for some opinions on what the tank size would be. I also do not know exactly what cichilds i want to use in the tank. I was hoping for some suggestions on a few easy to care for ones.
Probably a tank size of between 30-55 gallons.
any suggestions are appriciated
Thanks

TowBoater
12-13-2007, 12:31 PM
Bigger the better, I say the 55g. I have a 55g american cichlid tank and love it. I highly recommend the Green Severum, very timid and larger meaning it can go with about any cichlid. Beside your large cichlids like Jacks and Severums and such you also have the smaller and sometimes more aggressive ones like firemouths and convicts. Next is the dwarf and they are the most timid around. You need GOOD filtration because as said before, they are very dirty. I feed variety, my fish hate NLS.

Fishguy2727
12-13-2007, 04:54 PM
I highly suggest peacock cichlids from Lake Malawi. They are hardy and the most colorful freshwater fish out ther. There are pics of mine in my PhotoBucket page in my sginature.

Definitely go as big as you can.

Incredulous_Ed
12-13-2007, 08:18 PM
Do you want:

SA cichlids?

Central American cichlids?

Rift Lake cichlids?

Or other cichlids?

NickFish
12-13-2007, 11:57 PM
Not sure yet what would you recommend Ed?

TowBoater
12-14-2007, 12:02 AM
SA cichlids, more combination possibilities.

Fishguy2727
12-14-2007, 12:58 AM
What pH does your tap naturally hold at?

I suggest peacocks. They are colorful, stay at a small to medium size (~5"), and very hardy.

OscarFan
12-14-2007, 01:50 AM
Im a fan of Electric blue. They like caves and the bottom so you get them a long 55 would be good.Bigger is better.

Fishguy2727
12-14-2007, 04:34 AM
Electric blue what? I can think of at least 4 different cichlids that have a common name of electric blue something.

NickFish
12-15-2007, 01:08 AM
I just got a 55G long and started cycling it.
I'll probably get SA cichilds.
My natural tap water PH is around 7.6-8.0
What are some good fish possibilties?

TowBoater
12-15-2007, 01:10 AM
About anything really, what are some things you are looking for? Color? Size? Temperament?

NickFish
12-15-2007, 01:38 PM
nothing too big. I would like to fit a community in there. Would that be possible to do with SAs or is there a differnet type of cichlid that is better for a small community?

William
12-15-2007, 05:18 PM
Do you want a planted or unplanted SA thank?

Pr0eve
12-15-2007, 05:57 PM
I like these:

Brichardi (Neolamprologus brichardi)
Jewel Cichlid (Hemichromis bimaculatus)
Johanni (Melanochromis johannii)
Kennyi (Pseudotropheus lombardoi)
Electric Yellow Labido (Labidochromis caeruleus)

William
12-15-2007, 08:26 PM
Those are nice but are African not SA

TowBoater
12-15-2007, 11:10 PM
Here is a good list I like and are peaceful:

German Rams
Bolivian Rams
Gold Rams
Green Severum
And dwarf
Jewl

Here are some more aggressive ones I like

Oscar
Jack
Angels
Uaru
Firemouth
Convicts
Salvini

Fishalicious
12-15-2007, 11:13 PM
7.6-8.0 PH is awful high for SA - SA is between 5.5 - 7 max PH

You have a nice PH for tang or malawi cichlids

TowBoater
12-16-2007, 12:53 AM
About any fish can adapt to about any pH.

Fishalicious
12-16-2007, 01:27 AM
Adapt yes... thrive is another discussion...especially if they are wild caught and not bred.

The PH scale is logarithmic. So what appears to be a small change on the PH scale eg from 7 to 6 is in fact quite a big leap. A PH of 6 is is actually 10 times more acidic than a PH of 7... A PH of 4 is 100 times more acidic than a PH of 6 and 1000 time more acidic than a PH of 7 just to give you a good idea...

So what seems to us to be a small change is actually quite a large change for the fish and quite stressful to them... there are some apistos that are happy at PH 7 I agree (cacatouides, borrelli) but most SA's are used to lower PH's - if introduced to an aquarium with a PH of 8 they will of course over time adapt to survive but I am pretty sure it shortens their life in the long run.

It is very easy to use RO water, filter over turf or many other various ways to lower the PH in an easy way - just avoiding PH differences is important.

If you are not wanting all the hassles and want the best you are easier matching fish to the PH you have...

Just some thoughts..