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kkevvy
11-29-2007, 09:54 PM
Hey all

I have a 20gallon long aquarium, and I have alot of plants in it. I was wondering if there was any bulbs I could get for my 20gal 1 light florescent hood? The best I can find for it is 15 watts, haha. Kinda crappy. I want it to be around 60 watts, if possible... thanks for any info you can give me.

smaug
11-30-2007, 12:19 AM
thats what ya got ,light fixtures have ballasts that are watt specific.You cant get a bigger bulb for it.

cocoa_pleco
11-30-2007, 12:23 AM
you cant get a bigger bulb. to go any larger your looking into VHO fluorescents

kkevvy
11-30-2007, 12:54 AM
Any suggestions on a decent hood thats not ridiculously expensive?

cocoa_pleco
11-30-2007, 01:02 AM
i would go for the 24" hagen VHO fixture, i got my 24" for $100 and 48" for $180.

the 24" is 2x24w for about 50w total, and is worth it. the 24" goes for about $80 on ebay

markbob
11-30-2007, 03:16 AM
current and a few other companies make a compact flourescent light that fits a 24" fixture that runs between $50 and $100. The Bulbs are available in a variety of wave lengths and are 65W.

kkevvy
11-30-2007, 08:11 PM
Do you mean this?
http://www.current-usa.com/sunpaq.html
Because it doesnt say that it fits a standard florescent hood

Algenco
11-30-2007, 08:23 PM
The best retrofits.

http://www.ahsupply.com/

kkevvy
11-30-2007, 08:52 PM
... Well actually, can I retrofit my hood with this?
http://www.current-usa.com/sunpaqretro.html

Algenco
11-30-2007, 09:04 PM
... Well actually, can I retrofit my hood with this?
http://www.current-usa.com/sunpaqretro.html
yes, what's the prices?

Jambot
11-30-2007, 09:09 PM
You could always go for a glass top and get something like this (http://www.bigalsonline.com/BigAlsUS/ctl3684/cp18360/si1379085/cl0/coralifefwt5aqualightdoublestriplight30). Each bulb is 18 watts for a total of 36 watts, which would be 1.8 watts/gallon, but no one has exactly 20 gallons in a 20 gallon tank so it would actually be a higher wattage per gallon. Also, it's 30 inches long which is ideal for a 20 gallon long tank.

kkevvy
11-30-2007, 09:19 PM
yes, what's the prices?

73 dollars each. That would be cheaper seeing as I don't have to get a glass top. And it says on this site
http://www.marineandreef.com/shoppro/power_sunpaq.html
that it comes with the bulb. So that would be cheaper.

On ebay you can get them for about 50 each, but I don't know if it comes with the bulb...
EDIT:
Ebay shipping is around 20 bucks.
Marineland Shipping is 10 bucks... but it comes with the bulb.

Algenco
11-30-2007, 11:29 PM
AH supply 36Watt bright kit is $44

kkevvy
12-01-2007, 07:40 PM
I jsut ordered the 24" 1x65 Watt Sunpaq Retrofit Kit from Fish.com for only 67 dollars, with shipping! Definitely the cheapest. I'm really excited to get it. I'm gonna set up my tank with the fluorite and everything, and hopefully it'll get in when I get my java moss, java fern, and glosso. I'm stoked!

Lady Hobbs
12-01-2007, 08:45 PM
The best retrofits.

http://www.ahsupply.com/

Glad you posted that link. I lost it and was about to ask anyone if they had it. The best prices online in retro's.

Blue Guppy
12-01-2007, 09:20 PM
Hi to all! Kind of new in this plant forum but I do have a question about lighting. Currently I have a 20 gal. tank with (2) baby amazons, a few bunch of small vallisnerias about 2 to 4 inches tall, and a four to 6 pieces of plants that have small oval leaves with red in their underside, these are about 4 to 6 inches tall. The tank that I have came with a light hood that has a 15W fluorescent bulb. The light was not enough to encourage plant growth, as the leaves turn transparent and brown, so I bought an individual tank top light with a coral lite bulb 15W I think. Will these be enough to promote healthy plant growth?

thanks to all!

kkevvy
12-02-2007, 04:33 AM
Hi to all! Kind of new in this plant forum but I do have a question about lighting. Currently I have a 20 gal. tank with (2) baby amazons, a few bunch of small vallisnerias about 2 to 4 inches tall, and a four to 6 pieces of plants that have small oval leaves with red in their underside, these are about 4 to 6 inches tall. The tank that I have came with a light hood that has a 15W fluorescent bulb. The light was not enough to encourage plant growth, as the leaves turn transparent and brown, so I bought an individual tank top light with a coral lite bulb 15W I think. Will these be enough to promote healthy plant growth?

thanks to all!

Usually, its measured in Watts Per Gallon (WPG). Yours is like mine, less than 1 WPG which looks like its bright but it really isn't (to plants). You can't really get anything better, unless you do what I did.

markbob
12-02-2007, 11:20 PM
I hate to break it to ya, but you didn't really upgrade quite right. For most plants, you need 2-3wpg, that means that for the 20g you should have between 40 and 60 watts. The only way around it is if you are doing a low light tank with mosses and such.

Blue Guppy
12-03-2007, 11:45 PM
Thanks guys for the tips. I'll see what I can do about my current lighting woes.

Also can you guys recommend a particular plant food supplement. I am currently using Flora Pride (Yellow Bottle). I place about 2 cup full when I do a major water change and I cup full for 20% water change every other 3 days.

kkevvy
12-09-2007, 10:00 PM
I use Flourish from Seachem for my fertilizer. Super concentrated and works good. Only like at 9 bucks at the LFS and it lasts forever.


In other news, I installed the light, and, after some plastic cutting to get it to fit just right, it works great! I'm now getting over 3 WPG, 3.25 to be exact.

I've had it installed for 2 days and so far my Wisteria has grown 2 inches and my hornwort probably more. All my other plants are flourishing as well. It really makes a huge difference.

Dave66
12-09-2007, 10:12 PM
Watts per gallon is a common term, but it should be followed by "of full-spectrum light" Color temperature, expressed in Kelvins, for planted tanks should be 6700K to 10,000K. Higher the number the more blue it looks to the human eye. My tanks have 6700K power compacts with 10000K halides over tanks deep enough to warrent them.

Dave