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Brass Monkey
02-05-2017, 11:12 PM
First big tank here - 110g

I've completed the cycle - 0,0,5 on amonia, nitrite, nitrate.

Unfortunately my ph is much higher than i wanted but its stable (8.3) so thats something.

I ordered 20 dime & sub-dime sized koi angels from a reputable breeder on aquabid. She will ship em tomorrow so they will arrive Tuesday morning.

I'm excited & a little nervous as i dont want to kill em!

My under-tank sump filter is HUGE with more bio-balls & ceramic rings than i can count - literally, like 3 gallons of bio-balls & 4 bags of rings so it can handle the bio-load.

Im more concerned about the ph than anything - tried a few things, different substrate, peat - will pick up some driftwood later this spring.

Anyway - should I do anything special to get the new babies settled in?

I have 10 danios & 1 ghost shrimp in the tank now. Pulled the goldfish after the cycle was complete.

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Rocksor
02-05-2017, 11:17 PM
Adding driftwood and peat won't do anything if your KH is high. For KH of 8, 2 cups of peat will only soften around 24-30 cups of water.

If you want to soften your water and make it more acidic, start mixing RO water with your tap before adding it into the tank. This is an easier way to control it.

luke77
02-06-2017, 12:13 AM
I wouldn't worry about your Ph. I think people put too much thought into Ph. I have a Ph of 8.2 to 8.4, I have no problems with angels. Current I have wild altums in my water with no issues.

Rocksor
02-06-2017, 02:45 PM
Where PH matters is how fast ammonia becomes toxic and if you want to induce breeding. Fish from areas of low PH are less tolerable of slight ammonia spikes than those fish from higher PH areas.

However, most people think that PH has to do how hard and how soft the water is. This is not correct since water can still have a high PH and be soft water with low TDS. Now if you mix RO water with your hard water, there will be a health improvement in the long run for soft water fish. They will be able to process and regulate the minerals in their body as they normally should, which is known as osmotic regulation.

So filtering through peat or mixing RO does these 3 things:

1. Reduce the PH
2. Remove calcium and magnesium ions from the water
3. lower the total dissolved solid level

Now some folks also think that a water softener will make true soft water, which is water will low amounts of calcium and magnesium, as well as a low TDS level. However this is not true. The water softener will not lower the TDS value of the water as it is simply replacing the calcium and magnesium ions with sodium or potassium.

waylon101
02-06-2017, 04:20 PM
If you are really nervous about adding fish I always recommend the drip acclimation method. But that is cool! Post some pictures when you get them :)

Brass Monkey
02-06-2017, 11:41 PM
They were shipped today. Arrive in the morning.

I want to have softer water but will settle for consist water for now.

Will post pics when i get em

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Brass Monkey
02-06-2017, 11:41 PM
I plan to aclimate them to my water over a 2 to 3 hour period. That should be slow enough right?

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Brass Monkey
02-06-2017, 11:52 PM
Just read up on the drip method. I need to get a valve. Walmart should have one right? They are open late as i wont be home till late tonight and the fish arrive in the morning

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waylon101
02-07-2017, 03:59 AM
Just read up on the drip method. I need to get a valve. Walmart should have one right? They are open late as i wont be home till late tonight and the fish arrive in the morning

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I don't know if walmart will have a valve but you can look. You can also use a piece of airline tubing and tie a knot in it. That will cut the water flow down and just allow the water to slowly drip out.

Brass Monkey
02-07-2017, 08:54 PM
Here they are!

She shipped 25 & they all seem healthy!

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Brass Monkey
02-07-2017, 09:04 PM
This one has a mustache! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170207/1931eae2a20f6cf8dbbcf5925b9f9952.jpg

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Brass Monkey
02-07-2017, 09:05 PM
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waylon101
02-07-2017, 09:09 PM
Cool. I hope they look good for ya!

William
02-07-2017, 11:11 PM
Cute. I hope you will post pictures as they mature so we get to see the colors develop.

Rocksor
02-07-2017, 11:11 PM
who did. you purchase them from on aquabid?

Brass Monkey
02-07-2017, 11:22 PM
Carol Francis out of florida

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Slaphppy7
02-07-2017, 11:27 PM
Congrats on the new fish.

luke77
02-08-2017, 02:31 AM
I've bought koi angels from he's before. Nice stock she has.

Laura_in_FL
02-08-2017, 02:34 PM
Congrats on the new angels!

Brhino
02-08-2017, 02:50 PM
cute little guys (and gals)! How many do you plan to keep to adulthood?

Boundava
02-08-2017, 03:04 PM
Agree, they are very cute and you have a bunch of them to get paired up. Congrats to you.

Brass Monkey
02-12-2017, 11:14 PM
Id like to keep 6, 8 at the most

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waylon101
02-15-2017, 12:30 AM
Grow them up a little bit and then sell the ones you don't want at the Champaign Area Fish Exchange or local store to make some of your money back thumbs2: