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fishlove
01-30-2017, 11:13 PM
What do you guys feed your Angels, other than flakes and brine shrimp.
How about a certain type of cichlid food or veggies. I've heard not to feed tubifex due to risk of introducing parasites. Is this true?

mac
01-30-2017, 11:22 PM
Many years ago mine got fresh clean small garden worms, flys. Along with tetra cichlid chips many types of flakes, daphanie, peas.

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steeler58
01-31-2017, 01:20 AM
Frozen blood worms will be greatly relished.

I fed tubifex for years with no problems but I always kept them under slow dripping water before they could foul it.

This from The Greater Seattle Aquarium Society:

There are two types of Tubificid worms (Phylum Annelida, Order Oligochaeta, Family Tubificidae) which are raised and sold as fish food.... the red Tubifex (Tubifex tubifex) which has been in the hobby for about 100 years, and the black Tubifex which is a similar species that is darker in color. The Amino acid profile of the proteins in Tubifex is very good, but the Fatty Acid profile is pretty bad. Therefore, fish fed Tubifex grow quickly but don’t show as much color as they do deformities. The black Tubifex is hardier, more resistant to desiccation, and less likely to cause disease in fish. Before the advent of frozen Bloodworms (not really a worm, I’ll talk about these later) Tubifex were routinely used as food for fish that refused flake food and when people wanted to condition their fish, that is, fatten them up for breeding. Some pet stores sell Tubifex as Live Bloodworms which is a misnomer because Bloodworms are the larvae of a type of fly. Because Tubifex feed on anaerobic bacteria they can cause intestinal disorders in fish (food poisoning, basically) and septicemia (which means blood-poisoning). Predatory Cichlids such as Oscars can become quite ill after eating Tubifex because they eat the worms regardless of whether the worms are live or severely decomposed. Cichlids from lake Malawi and lake Tanganyika crave these worms because they are a rare delicacy in those lakes. The consequence of feeding live Tubifex worms to African Cichlids is a disease known as Malawi Bloat which is a severe bacterial infection in the intestine (Malawi Cichlids have very long intestines because most of them are herbivores). Tubifex were once commonly collected in open sewers in Mexico because they thrive in polluted waters with high aeration and good circulation. These days, most Tubifex come from Worm Farmers or from trout or salmon hatcheries, where they are collected from the race-way effluent. At one time these worms were fed to small salmonids but this practice ended when it was discovered that the worms served as a carrier for the intermediate form of a sporozoan (Myxobolus) that is responsible for Whirling Disease. Yes, this disease does occur in some tropical fish.

fishlove
01-31-2017, 04:10 PM
Steeler -
Thanks for taking the time to gather all this information. It answers a lot of questions. I appreciate it!
I think I'll try some blood worms and daphnia (as Mac suggested - thanks Mac)
Also, I'll see what the store has.

Have you guys heard of o-nip tablets? It contains flakes, and freeze-dried krill, bloodworms, tubifex, etc.. I saw this on a different post and it seems the fish absolutely love it!

Slaphppy7
01-31-2017, 04:35 PM
Since all of these foods are from "Angels Plus", I imagine angel fish would like them all, lol

http://www.angelsplus.com/Foods.htm

SueD
01-31-2017, 05:12 PM
Steeler -
Thanks for taking the time to gather all this information. It answers a lot of questions. I appreciate it!
I think I'll try some blood worms and daphnia (as Mac suggested - thanks Mac)
Also, I'll see what the store has.

Have you guys heard of o-nip tablets? It contains flakes, and freeze-dried krill, bloodworms, tubifex, etc.. I saw this on a different post and it seems the fish absolutely love it!

I have heard and read about the Sera O-nip tablets and they're on my "to be ordered" list next time I need food. Saw this video, too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am9toPgZeGQ

waylon101
01-31-2017, 05:13 PM
What do you guys feed your Angels, other than flakes and brine shrimp.
How about a certain type of cichlid food or veggies. I've heard not to feed tubifex due to risk of introducing parasites. Is this true?

I use Discus Hans Cobalt Fish Food. Their color seems darker (which is nice I guess) but I am loving how thick the angels are getting. They're getting very bulky since I started using it 3 months ago.

fishlove
02-01-2017, 04:09 PM
Waylon -
What are you referencing...."they're color seems darker"? The fish are darker in color after feeding this? Do you feed flakes or pellets?
I found this at Drs. Foster & Smith, which is about an hour from me and it looks like it has 45% protein, probiotics (which is good for digestions) and lots of vitamins. :) I may have to get some.

Thanks for the info ;)

waylon101
02-01-2017, 05:44 PM
I was referencing the browns on their heads. I only keep wild types so its the three lines on the side, gray body and a dark brown head ( like this: http://www.reef2rainforest.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/DSC_0543_Crop_800w.jpg). The brown head has gone from lighter brown to very dark brown. The formula is by Discus Hans so its actually made to brighten up the color of discus but its good for angels as well. So in my case it was kind of hard to see color improvement since I don't keep very colorful angels but I'm confident it would brighten up other colors such as blues and so on.

steeler58
02-02-2017, 01:55 AM
Steeler -
Thanks for taking the time to gather all this information. It answers a lot of questions. I appreciate it!
I think I'll try some blood worms

Lot's of good information out there, back in the day all we had was tubifex and brine shrimp, who knows what quality the flakes were :shrug: but as I've said elsewhere; the fish seemed hardier than ;-)

fishlove
02-02-2017, 05:51 PM
Exactly! Things have evolved so much and often times we change how things are done today compared to how it used to be and we're not seeing as good of results. Even with humans. There's too much "junk" on the market and we wonder why people get diagnosed with heart failure and cancer so frequently.

Waylon -
I went to Drs. Foster & Smith yesterday and picked up some Discus Hans Cobalt flakes, O-nips, and frozen blood worms. Everyone ate the flakes. I threw an O-nip in my 65g and they all went NUTS! It was pretty cool to watch. As soon as I threw the blood worms in the 125g, the Angels ate them right up. I actually mixed some brine shrimp with the blood worms and the brine shrimp went neglected. Ha ha...I suppose the worms were a wonderful treat for them! ;)

waylon101
02-02-2017, 08:28 PM
Cool! I hope it works out for you like it has for me :)