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Incredulous_Ed
11-28-2007, 05:59 AM
take a look at this pic: http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd146/FishBliss/RamAwholebody.jpg

What is that little white tubeunder the ram's curved stomach?

Also, if a ram has a curved in stomach, is that unhealthy?

Fishalicious
11-28-2007, 08:58 AM
It is her egg tube... she is in the mood for loooooooooooove... she is beautiful by the way

I don't find her stomach particularly rounded... i.m.o she could do with some more food.. Rams are at their best health when they have full round stomachs

Fishguy2727
11-28-2007, 02:42 PM
Mine is always showing hers.

She could have some more weight on her, but she is not too bad. Is she yours? How long have you had her?

Incredulous_Ed
11-28-2007, 08:19 PM
No, that is not my ram. However, I have a ffew bolivian rams and some have that tube out all of the time. If that mean they're ready for breeding, why don't thety pair up?

Incredulous_Ed
11-28-2007, 10:41 PM
wait a minute, all my rams have a white tube under their belly. Does that mean I have all females??

Fishalicious
11-28-2007, 11:08 PM
Oh dear... you are not having much luck with your Rams...

I have never seen a egg or breeding tube on a male for long times... your rams are finally sexually dimorphic and it seems they are all females !! What are the chances? Sheesh... The male will show a tube but this will only show at the spawning itself when he is fertilizing the eggs and not at other times.

Usually when they reach this stage they will pair up - the pair will chase all others away and stay together at all times.

Here is a foto where the egg/breeding tube can be seen on a female just before spawning

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v707/Cutsie1/microaltipr1.jpg

Incredulous_Ed
11-29-2007, 12:13 AM
This is madness!!!! Usually people get only male rams! arg. In the pic the fmale doesn't have red on it's fins, but all of mine do. Normal?

Also, they have territory disputes. Do females have territory disputes? My rams will liplock and circle each other. Also, when I am buying rams at the LFS, which isn't the best place for a female to display her breeding tube, how will I know the difference?

Fishguy2727
11-29-2007, 01:53 AM
Females do not always have the red belly. It is the best way to sex them, but not always there. My females has the same dorsal fin setup the one in the pic has, as in the first ray is short, the second longer, and the third is the longest. The male's longest ray on the dorsal is the first one. Females will chase and get nippy. At work it seems to be the females even more than the males.

Incredulous_Ed
11-30-2007, 04:44 PM
hmm...according to this:http://www.cichlid-forum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=142702

All my rams are males.