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Gar
12-02-2015, 06:14 PM
I had to start a new tank. After my Jaguar started remodeling my tank to go after my crayfish. They got along for about a month. I had 1 female with eggs. he moved a 3 lb. rock and collapsed her cave. That was it had to get them their own tank.

AmazonJoe
12-02-2015, 06:17 PM
Nice start going to put anything else with the crayfish?

Gar
12-02-2015, 06:29 PM
Yeah was wanting to find a fish that stays to the top and is a community fish not sure yet gotta wait till i get the top on it. Maybe but some duckweed in it to.

AmazonJoe
12-02-2015, 06:34 PM
just so you know your going to have a fulltime job controling the duckweed :/

Frogbit is a bigger cousin check it out.

AmazonJoe
12-02-2015, 06:39 PM
Guppies are pretty awesome IMO plus they will reproduce in your tank quickly.

since the crayfish will most likely make a meal out of them..if they get to close

Gar
12-02-2015, 07:20 PM
Guppies are pretty awesome IMO plus they will reproduce in your tank quickly.

since the crayfish will most likely make a meal out of them..if they get to close

Yeah I thought about that also was considering mollies or platies. that way i could maybe have some to feed to my gar. He wont even look at a guppy anymore.

Boundava
12-02-2015, 09:22 PM
just so you know your going to have a fulltime job controling the duckweed :/

Frogbit is a bigger cousin check it out.

I agree 1000% (not a typo) once you have duckweed you know why it is the bane of all existence! I had to take 4 hours to get it out of 4 tanks, and was 98% successful, on the 5th tank I was only 60% successful and its a wall of duckweed with frogbit mixed in though I removed 60% of the duckweed recently. Frogbit is so much better, plus I never put the duckweed in the tanks in the first place-like the pest snails I got it was a hitchhiker on some plants and was easily transferred from tank to tank during maintenance. The duckweed sticks to every damn thing!

drx
12-03-2015, 05:43 AM
duck weed isn't that bad. yes it grows fast which is good as its a nutrient sponge. i just take a fish net and run it around the surface 1 a week before water change leaving 25% of what was there. my craw dad love to try and catch them by standing on the talles parts of the hard scape.

Boundava
12-03-2015, 01:43 PM
IMO and IME if you want a floater that grows past and is more easily managble then go with frogbit because if you want to remove it you can easily do so in one sitting. Duckweed can be removed in at one time-but its more like a day and lots of back and forth with the net (streassing the fish and in my case catching goofy shrimp too) and moving the filters and cleaning the trim to make sure you got every little leaf and waiting for any of the little guys who sank to resurface then comming back after a bit to find the stragglers and then wait and repeat the above vs. a sitting just plucking the bigger frogbit out one by one cause each leaf is the size of my thumbnail.

courtesy of plantedtank: http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/33-plants/65858-amazon-frogbit-versus-pistia.html

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Now if you are in this situation (and I was) you have to meticulously rinse each frogbit to remove any duckweed before putting it back if you don't want to be reinfested with the duckweed.

Personally I like the roots on the frogbit too...
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Gar
12-03-2015, 03:05 PM
Well I am starting to lean more towards the frogbit. Them roots look kinda cool. I will do some more research before i make any final choices. I do know the crayfish will eat at them to. Plus I have a large blue tilapia that would enjoy some fresh vegetation.

Gar
12-03-2015, 03:30 PM
Is frogbit going to have trouble if I keep it in a covered tank? Some sites said that with frogbit the top of the leaves have to stay dry and to be careful with water changes and even splashing pumps. How true is this?

Surfdog
12-03-2015, 04:15 PM
just so you know your going to have a fulltime job controling the duckweed :/

Frogbit is a bigger cousin check it out.

It's my understanding salt kills off duckweed, the same amount used when treating a FW tank and at a level low enough to not effect your fish? I will of course defer to those more knowledgeable on FW plants, that would be everyone who posted. I like the stuff myself and it stays on one side of my 75 due to flow. I just use a net once a week to remove the excess.

Boundava
12-03-2015, 04:27 PM
I am not sure how the shrimp and chilis would fare with even a bit of salt, the adult chilis are the same size as the adult shrimp. I have a stepladder that I will be (hopefully) taking upstairs this weekend to get better access to the top of this tank so I can do a better job removing all of the floaters, cleaning the frogbit and putting it back in. Have to clean the filter too as the duckweed is in it as well.

Surfdog
12-03-2015, 04:50 PM
I am not sure how the shrimp and chilis would fare with even a bit of salt, the adult chilis are the same size as the adult shrimp. I have a stepladder that I will be (hopefully) taking upstairs this weekend to get better access to the top of this tank so I can do a better job removing all of the floaters, cleaning the frogbit and putting it back in. Have to clean the filter too as the duckweed is in it as well.

Thanks! It's why I put the question mark as I was unsure.