bluefin killi

[aquariumlover10]

Ok I was looking at florida native fish and I discovered that there are bluefin killis in the general area I live in but I don't know which exact rivers and lakes there in can anyone help me?

[Compass]

I'm not sure where they would be, but do be careful about harvesting wild fish in Florida. The feds are very touchy about certain species. Make sure that that one is ok to catch before going out and doing so. You might want to give a better idea of where in Florida you are located. There is a LOT of water there so telling you which rivers and lakes can be exhaustive.

[Sandz]

Actually Florida is really lienent - just need a fishing license.

You can find them in a lot of the off shoots of the rivers in the backwater. you need a sain net and a shotgun just in case a gator gets you.

[Compass]

I just know there are a few fish that are protected and it never hurts to make sure the one you want is not one of those fish. I know certain types of small live bearers are protected.

[Compass]

You need a sain net and a shotgun just in case a gator gets you.

The truth is, that's only half a joke. Those suckers are everywhere!

[Slaphppy7]

Actually, a large bore rifle would be better...a scatter-gun would just tick an alligator off...

[aquariumlover10]

Ok my dad has a fishing liscens and I'm under 18 so as long as I'm with him I don't need one. Oh I know about gators trust me I use to live in the north florida swamps we had gators, poisonus snakes, poisonus spiders everything I even had a blaack widow crawl up my arm when I was four and last year when I was raking we had bid water oak trees and a black widow jumped on my neck but now I live in a tiny neiborhood in the tampa bay area.

[aquariumlover10]

Actually, a large bore rifle would be better...a scatter-gun would just tick an alligator off...

Yup same with water mocasons my mom shot one with a 10-4 shot gun three peppers and one slug to kill it at .blank

[Sandz]

Ok my dad has a fishing liscens and I'm under 18 so as long as I'm with him I don't need one. Oh I know about gators trust me I use to live in the north florida swamps we had gators, poisonus snakes, poisonus spiders everything I even had a blaack widow crawl up my arm when I was four and last year when I was raking we had bid water oak trees and a black widow jumped on my neck but now I live in a tiny neiborhood in the tampa bay area.

You are around a lot of good collecting areas. You should be able to google them. Are you guys part of the local club? They would most likely join you and help out in the collecting.

[Sandz]

Actually, a large bore rifle would be better...a scatter-gun would just tick an alligator off...

Not if you use slugs...

[Compass]

Oh oh oh a boomstick!!! I've always wanted to use one of those!

[aquariumlover10]

No were not apart of a club but I have two younger siblings so we don't go fishing much.

[aquariumlover10]

Oh oh oh a boomstick!!! I've always wanted to use one of those!

I've only shot a pp gun but when we move were going to get land son definatly going to be shooting and hunting. My grandpa live on our old farm in the sticks (sorry listening to the song kick it in the sticks had to say it) but he has a double barrel that he shot once with both bullets at a coyotye got knocked back 10 feet only uses one bullet now.

[Slaphppy7]

Slugs tend to tear up the barrel, I'd never put a slug through any of my shotguns

Now, buckshot is a different story

[aquariumlover10]

Hu I've never seen that happen with my granpas and my moms shotsguns but then again they never let my shhoot them even though I'm a shart shooter with a moded nerf gun and a pp gun. Oh when I lived in the sticks I tryed to hunt squirrels at first I would just hide in my little dirt bunker (had my own hole/safe thing for my weapons) and would run at them with my homemade spears never worked but for my birthday I got a tent, sleeping bag, first aid kit, and a blowgun good thing for the first aid I was cutting a limb off a tree to make a spear and was using my multi tool saw and when I finally cut through it it whipped up and send my tool flying I landed on my face and my right poiter finger was pretty messed up I had a huge blood blister and it was bleeding under the fingernail plus on my joint closest to my nail you could see the bone it took about three months to fully heal but it scared.

[Slaphppy7]

Yee-ouch, be careful out there, lol

[Sandz]

Slugs tend to tear up the barrel, I'd never put a slug through any of my shotguns

Now, buckshot is a different story

Yeah... I have my personal protection aresenal. Then again I wrestled gators and snakes most of my life soooo... im more apt to play than to shoot.

[Slaphppy7]

Depending on their size, I'd be apt to shoot first, play later, LOL

[aquariumlover10]

Yup I actually caught a ratsnake when I was four years old and when I was eight I stepped on a chicken snake that was really mad because it had just ate a chicken and couldn't get back out als have seen coral snakes and rattlers + a mouse that carrys fatal diseases. And I have worked on a horse breeding farm and have been chased by them and mad mini horses and mad bulls in the procces of being chased by the mad bull I hopped two fences and a giant log.

[Slaphppy7]

Yup I actually caught a ratsnake when I was four years old and when I was eight I stepped on a chicken snake that was really mad because it had just ate a chicken and couldn't get back out als have seen coral snakes and rattlers + a mouse that carrys fatal diseases. And I have worked on a horse breeding farm and have been chased by them and mad mini horses and mad bulls in the procces of being chased by the mad bull I hopped two fences and a giant log.

I'd love to see a video of someone being chased by a mad mini horse

[aquariumlover10]

Haha his name was fire so I geuss I should has expected that I have also been chased by a mean billy goat he ramed the steps off our front porch.

[KevinVA]

lol, this has been an entertaining thread. :yellowbow:

[Slaphppy7]

Haha his name was fire so I geuss I should has expected that I have also been chased by a mean billy goat he ramed the steps off our front porch.

Those mean billy goats are nothing to play with!...wow, I guess your Dad wasn't too happy when he found out he'd have to build new steps!

[aquariumlover10]

Haha thanks ok but back to the fish doesanyone know what exact lakes they are in in the east tampa bay area?

[Compass]

With your luck just go find some water. I'm sure a mad killifish will come after you. Just hold your net up and pray it doesn't break through. lol

All kidding aside I couldn't tell you which body of water. I'm from the East coast and know little about your neck of the woods. If I was you, just talk your dad into going exploring. Tell him it's for educational purposes, that'll score you some points.

[Surfdog]

Haha thanks ok but back to the fish doesanyone know what exact lakes they are in in the east tampa bay area?

Compass, even though Tampa is on the Gulf, it too is considered East Coast. AQ10, I've been told Mayaka state park south of you has a wide variety fish that can be netted. Just don't let FWC catch ya... 😳

[Compass]

Compass, even though Tampa is on the Gulf, it too is considered East Coast. AQ10, I've been told Mayaka state park south of you has a wide variety fish that can be netted. Just don't let FWC catch ya... ��

Lol, not to East Coast Floridians! It's a whole other world there. That's where the riff raff go. :14:

[Surfdog]

Gosh. Guess I was both having lived in the Keys! Actually guess I was more riff than raff having my street name ending in Gulf. 😀

[Sandz]

a simple google search returned this http://www.mtfb.com/MTFBJuly2005/JULY2005pagesIMAGES/105nunziataarticle2.htm

type in tampa killifish collecting sites

[steeler58]

Yeah... I have my personal protection aresenal. Then again I wrestled gators and snakes most of my life soooo... im more apt to play than to shoot.

Yep, catch your show once in awile....:hmm3grin2orange:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVEmoGsjRVs&feature=player_detailpage

[KevinVA]

Per, I had no idea you had your own show! You've been holding back on us.

[Sandz]

Hey! How long was it before we knew SOMEONE was an author?

[KevinVA]

I don't know... 3 months? She just couldn't help but brag. ;P

Kidding!

[Sandz]

Haha yeah... wellll there is that.

[aquariumlover10]

Ok so no one knows where they are exactly

[Slaphppy7]

type in tampa killifish collecting sites

Did you try this?...I did, and got lots of good info

[aquariumlover10]

Yea but all I got was doanloads. Which search engine did you use?

[Compass]

One is a pdf and the other is an article. Good places to start.

http://www.aka.org/ark/Florida%20Trip.pdf

http://www.mtfb.com/MTFBJuly2005/JULY2005pagesIMAGES/105nunziataarticle2.htm

[aquariumlover10]

Ok im downloading to pdf and I have all ready read the other one. Has anyone tryed dip netting for fish?

[Compass]

Can't say as I have. You might look into cast netting as well. It's rather fun and a good skill to have.

[Compass]

I would also recommend you find a good field guide for fish in Florida. That way when you go fishing you'll be able to identify what you get. Should be a lot of fun. Even if you don't find your killifish you might come away with something just as cool. Mosquito fish come to mind.

[aquariumlover10]

Oh my gosh you just reminded me of the last time I went saltwater fishing with my dad ok so we had a cast net cooler and our rods and tackle boxs so we first went up and down the beach to see the best spot to fish we saw a dead stingray and someone that caught a black tip and was going to eat it ok so when I got over seeing a guy stab a shark and thrown it on some rocks to bleed out we tryed cast neting you know what we got 5! needlefish with another school of them behind us about 50 feet from shore knee deep in water runing from the othe needles and the "dead" stingray was gone so I was like hey you want to leave now so we didn't and when we did leave we got back home at 8:00 pm and we didn't have time to rinse everything out so there was some sand in the cooler(we didn't have any ice or fish in it) so in the morning I when to rinse it out and there was a crab in there haha he died. Oh and I actually caught some mosquitos from the last time I went fw fishing well I have some babies from the ones I caught and some of them I got from my lfs 13 for 3.99 11 mosquitos and 2 endlers good deal.

[Slaphppy7]

That sounds like quite an adventure! I agree with trying a cast net, you can catch all kind of neat stuff that way

[aquariumlover10]

Oh and there are some fishing/retention ponds in my neiborhood that I got the asian clams from and my crawfish well a bird dropped it and ate 3 legs and let it sit in the ditch pregnant.

[Compass]

Oh and there are some fishing/retention ponds in my neiborhood that I got the asian clams from and my crawfish well a bird dropped it and ate 3 legs and let it sit in the ditch pregnant.

:sconfused:

[aquariumlover10]

What does :sconfused: mean?

[Slaphppy7]

What does :sconfused: mean?

Yeah, i was wondering too!

[Compass]

You just got some amazing stories buddy. I just didn't know how to react to "a bird... let it sit in the ditch pregnant." lol

[aquariumlover10]

It droped it in the ditch while it had eggs but they all died probaly from her being so stessed and not airating them enough.

[Slaphppy7]

The fall into the ditch probably stressed her too, it would stress me!

[aquariumlover10]

Yup me and my sister thought it was a scorpion when we first saw it.

[Slaphppy7]

Wow, that could be kind of scary...I think scorpions are pretty cool, though...we don't have any where I live

[aquariumlover10]

Oh gosh when my sister was 5 and I was 3 a scorpion almost stung her leg but I squished it she still owns me a favor.

[KevinVA]

lol, the stories never end. How old are you again?

[aquariumlover10]

My mom said I can't put my age up here so I will say that I am between 10 and 12.

[Slaphppy7]

Oh gosh when my sister was 5 and I was 3 a scorpion almost stung her leg but I squished it she still owns me a favor.

Wow, she sure does owe you! that could have been serious!


My mom said I can't put my age up here so I will say that I am between 10 and 12.

LOL, close enough....good of your Mom to be protective of you!

[KevinVA]

lol, yep. It's funny how many stories you can tell at that age. It also explains the very long sentences. ;P

You've done well, young padawan and I think it's great that you're looking to collect some wild killis. thumbs2:

[Sandz]

I really wish you luck. Take lots of pictures and report back if you get into some good spots!

[aquariumlover10]

Haha thanks got another story so I just went outside and yeasterday I caught some lizards and just put them In a half gallon tank and today iwas puting dirt and stuff in it and my friend from down the street came down and he was at my house for about 1 minute and he said he felt sick and then threw up all over my front yard so yay for me probably going to get some stomach bug and for stupid people on my street that let there kids who have a stomach bug come outside.

[Slaphppy7]

Well, I hope you don't get the stomach bug after all...be sure to wash your hands many times during the day, helps to keep germs from spreading.

What kind of lizards did you catch?...where I live, we have anoles, they are everywhere in my yard. Here's a pic:

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[aquariumlover10]

Yup I got 2 green and 2 brown anoles and 2 toads.

[Sandz]

We have the more south version of this. We have them but they are being taken over by the south american anole that looks almost like a mini iguana.

[aquariumlover10]

Huh are the sa anoles black

[steeler58]

Hey Sandz not to steal this guys thread, maybe he has seen them, have you guys ever seen this invasive species, the Nutria..?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs2yb39hTow&feature=player_detailpage

I didn't realise how fast and far they have spread since I first read about them.

[Slaphppy7]

Oh yeah, you can't go down by the rivers and creeks here and in La. without seeing them...they supposedly make a nice stew

[aquariumlover10]

I've seen dead ones in the street.thumbs2:

[KevinVA]

Holy hell... they sure do take a long enough bath. lol

Could be worse, Lee... we could be invaded by THESE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOv5ZjAOpC8

[aquariumlover10]

What is that?

[steeler58]

Now Sandz you've confused your Padawan :sconfused:, just a scene from the "Princess bride", aquriumlover.

[Slaphppy7]

What is that?

LOL, just a fictional creature in a movie, "The Princess Bride"....really good movie, BTW

[aquariumlover10]

Ok well I guessed that after I saw the dude hit it once and made it do a barrel roll.

[KevinVA]

Now Sandz you've confused your Padawan :sconfused:, just a scene from the "Princess bride", aquriumlover.

*Ahem* that was moi. ;P

[steeler58]

Ahhh....my bad (blush)

[Sandz]

Hey Sandz not to steal this guys thread, maybe he has seen them, have you guys ever seen this invasive species, the Nutria..?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs2yb39hTow&feature=player_detailpage

I didn't realise how fast and far they have spread since I first read about them.

Nutria!!!!! The beaver of the south... yes we see them often... Also had a bunch in Portland.

[aquariumlover10]

Ok so I also just remember that there are ghost shrimp in florida too so I am going to get some at petsmart and try to breed them and try to capture them with the killis.

[Slaphppy7]

Yep, you may very well pull up some shrimp with a cast net...have you ever seen the bamboo shrimp like I have?...sometimes Petco will have them, but not sure about Petsmart

[Compass]

I've caught ghost shrimp before in FL. There is a high chance you'll find some. Do you know when you are going to get to go?

[Sandz]

Ghost shrimp are in abundance in every canal in fl...

[aquariumlover10]

We'll I just showed a pic to my mom of a disease that you can get from fish so I guess not for awhile now.

[Slaphppy7]

We'll I just showed a pic to my mom of a disease that you can get from fish so I guess not for awhile now.

Ooops...sometimes too much information is not a good thing, lol...but it is understandable that she is concerned with your safety

[aquariumlover10]

Hu but this weekend I'm going to petsmart I am going to get ghost shrimp and gravel.

[Compass]

Ooooh that is unfortunate. It is good to know what's out there and be prepared for it. Your mother sounds like a wise person.

[aquariumlover10]

Haha how many ghost shrimp should I get? I want to breed them.

[Sandz]

http://www.fishforums.com/forum/invertebrates/17996-breeding-ghost-shrimp-palaeomonetes-patulous.html

[aquariumlover10]

Ok but that doesn't say how many to get.

[Slaphppy7]

Start with 10 or 12

[aquariumlover10]

Ok I will try to get 5 males and 5 pregnant females if they have them.

[Sandz]

Ok but that doesn't say how many to get.

It doesnt but it gives you a lot of info to get started. Breeding could start with 2 or 200 but it just has to have males and females. I would agree to the 10-12.

[aquariumlover10]

Ok my mom said she will take me to petsmart this weekend.

[Surfdog]

Ghost shrimp are in abundance in every canal in fl...

I remember seeing small shrimp traps for sale at fishing supply stores. Big one in Tampa if I recall is southeast liquidators, boatersworld may be another. Tell your Mom you can't get that disease from shrimp and catching and keeping a few alive may be a great way to learn how to keep marine life responsibly.

[aquariumlover10]

But ghost shrimp are freshwater and I can only have one tank.

[KevinVA]

Well, now I'm confused... Wasn't this thread about finding a freshwater fish, called the Bluefin Killi? Weren't you keeping this fish in a freshwater aquarium?

[aquariumlover10]

Yea but I don't think I am going to a lake or petsmart any time soon because my little brother who is imune combrimised got the stoach bug.

[aquariumlover10]

Oh my god my mom just told me we were going to go to the beach tomorrow for the whole day I hate people!

[KevinVA]

Still confused! lol

So you're not keeping a sw tank, you're keeping a fw tank. You can only have one that you want to keep ghost shrimp and the bluefin kill in? Tomorrow you're going to the lake and will attempt to catch ghost shrimp?

Is that correct?

[aquariumlover10]

No I already have a 10 gallon that I am going to put some ghost shrimp in to add to the current stock but I cant go any where because my little brother got that stomach bug oh and my mom blames me for him getting it

[KevinVA]

Well what happened to going to the beach tomorrow?

[aquariumlover10]

We can't because my brothers sick

[KevinVA]

Got it. :ezpi_wink1:

[aquariumlover10]

Ok and of course she stil blames me for getting my brother sick even though I am not sick and I was the one that was outside with the sick kid.

[KevinVA]

That's because you're the older brother. Get used to it. ;P

[aquariumlover10]

Yup guess so.

[aquariumlover10]

Yeah I'm room to the beach I'm goin to the beach.

[KevinVA]

I must be getting old, because I have no idea what that means.

[Slaphppy7]

I must be getting old, because I have no idea what that means.

I'm ancient, and even more clueless.

[aquariumlover10]

Ok I ment to put I'm going to the beach not I'm room to the beach

[aquariumlover10]

Ok my brother dosn't have the bug anymore so I may beable to go to petsmart today and I found some gravel that I may use for my tank so more ghost shrimp I may just buy all of them because they don't usally have much.

[aquariumlover10]

Ok can y'all please pray for my dog her name is faith she is a 8-9 year old bearded collie she has a irregular heartbeat and may have lyme disease.

[Slaphppy7]

I sure will pray for Faith....has she been to the vet lately?

[KevinVA]

Absolutely sir. I hope Faith starts feeling better soon and that she doesn't have lymes. =/ It is tick season, though, so be careful!

[aquariumlover10]

Ok thank you. She went to the vet about 2-3 weeks ago because her heart was beating really fast then slow then it would stop for about 3-5 seconds but she definitly has lyme disease so yeah we've had her for about 7 and a half years.

[Slaphppy7]

Can the vet treat her for the lyme disease?

[aquariumlover10]

More or less because antibiotics just make it go dormant and my family does natralpathic medicine so my mom is going to do a natural treatmentbecause they know a lot of natural ways to.treat it because my mom'my dad and my older sister have it.

[Slaphppy7]

They have lyme disease?

[aquariumlover10]

Yup my mom I guess had it since she was a teenager and didn't know it until she got bit by another tick in virginia that had lyme and i guess my dad got bit and my sister got bit by a tick in virginia.

[Slaphppy7]

Yup my mom I guess had it since she was a teenager and didn't know it until she got bit by another tick in virginia that had lyme and i guess my dad got bit and my sister got bit by a tick in virginia.

Oh, my...I hope they are ok....your mom has lived with lyme disease since she was a teenager?

I need to read up on this disease, I thought it was very serious and potentially fatal...maybe I'm wrong

[aquariumlover10]

Ya there are treating it slowly but when she was a teenager she didn't know she had it she actually found out this january I think but me and my younger brother and sister were born with it because my mom had it but us three were on such strong antibiotics when we were younger that it killed it and I actually had it wrong antibiotics only work in the early stages oh if you want to know why I was on antibiotics it is because I had strep throat 15 times in 2 years so I had my tonsils and adnouds taken out but I still got it 2 times after surgery.

[mommy1]

This thread is unbelievable.

[aquariumlover10]

What do you mean we just go off title about everyday:)

[Slaphppy7]

Ya there are treating it slowly but when she was a teenager she didn't know she had it she actually found out this january I think but me and my younger brother and sister were born with it because my mom had it but us three were on such strong antibiotics when we were younger that it killed it and I actually had it wrong antibiotics only work in the early stages oh if you want to know why I was on antibiotics it is because I had strep throat 15 times in 2 years so I had my tonsils and adnouds taken out but I still got it 2 times after surgery.

I see...thanks for clearing that up...I hope you and your family have fun at the beach!

[mommy1]

What do you mean we just go off title about everyday:)You have a very active imagination.

[aquariumlover10]

Thanks we actually went yesterday but may go to another one today because the one we went to there is some parade there today so we won't be ab,e to get in.

[aquariumlover10]

Ok in a little I am going to petsmart so how many ghost shrimp should I get I am willing to get 10 and should I get anymore plants I have a.marimo ball in my tank plus hornwort overgrowth, brazilian pennywort, green.cabomba and 3 smallish aponagetons

[mommy1]

As stated before in this thread 10 is a good number of ghost shrimp to get for your tank. The plants sound nice, do you have a picture to show us?

[aquariumlover10]

You have a very active imagination.

Thanks :ssmile:

[aquariumlover10]

As stated before in this thread 10 is a good number of ghost shrimp to get for your tank. The plants sound nice, do you have a picture to show us?
Ok I will get ten and when I get back I am reaquascaping my tank because my cray uprooted all of them but I will try a pic when I get back.

[aquariumlover10]

Ok I got ten I of them has eggs that have.eyes and are green so I put her in a breeder box.

[KevinVA]

There aren't words to describe what I'm thinking right now... not even a "WTF" meme.

[mommy1]

Sensationalism comes to mind.

[Slaphppy7]

Ok I got ten I of them has eggs that have.eyes and are green so I put her in a breeder box.

Wow, you must have excellent vision...it's very hard to see those eyes in shrimp eggs

[aquariumlover10]

Thanks I went to the beach today and caught 10 hermit crabs 1 blue crab like the ones you eat and 7 little sheepshead plus I saw about ten dolphins and when I move we are going to be really close to the beach and we are going to open a bait shop(probably).

[aquariumlover10]

Ok the fish I caught were actually atlantic croakers

[mommy1]

Sheepsheads are pretty fish, but their teeth are scary. I think I would rather catch the croakers. Here is a bit of information on them if you are interested.

Sheepshead

http://myfwc.com/fishing/saltwater/recreational/sheepshead/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archosargus_probatocephalus

Atlantic Croaker

http://myfwc.com/wildlifehabitats/profiles/fish/saltwater/drums/atlantic-croaker/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_croaker

I bet it was neat to see the dolphins. When my family and I take a drive to the beach we always look for dolphins when we are on the ferry to Padre Island. They often swim alongside the ferry.

[aquariumlover10]

Thanks I was actually by a energy plant thing and the manatees and dolphins I guess go up there at night because its safe and sharks don't get in there.

[aquariumlover10]

Ok so I just discovered that another one of my female ghost shrimps is heavaly berried she has about 50 eggs and my cray just molted

[Slaphppy7]

Wow, that will be alot of shrimplets...the crawdad doesn't try to eat the ghost shrimp?

[aquariumlover10]

No not really but she's slow so she can't really catch them but she is hiding in a corner behind some hornwort. Ok I put the newly preg shrimp in the breeder box with the other one and I put a piece of algae wafer and I had to tear it in two because they were fighting over it.

[Slaphppy7]

I see...yeah, I always break up my algae wafers so that everyone can have some.

[aquariumlover10]

Yeah. My cray is HUGE I think she's like 3.5 inches now!

[Slaphppy7]

Cool!...you know we are still waiting on picture from you!

[aquariumlover10]

Ok I'll try to get one.

[KevinVA]

Love crayfish... wish I could put one in my tanks, but I'm sure it'd probably wreak havoc on some of my fish.

[aquariumlover10]

Ok the pics I took are to blurry so I may not have pics till tomorrow because I have to use my moms phone and she been on it for half an hour and I don't think she will be off for awhile.

[Slaphppy7]

Yeah, I'm not brave enough to try one either, lol

[aquariumlover10]

Ok I was wanting to get another breeder box because my pregnant ghosts are getting a little territorial and I was eyeballing the tom baby nursery breeder box thing anyway here's a link (http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=14698) so should I order this or get another regular 3 way breeder box?

[KevinVA]

No link. You're just using breeder boxes for the shrimp?

[aquariumlover10]

Ok sorry here's a link http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=14698 I have the pregnant ghost shrimps in a top fin 3 way breeder box with gravel and hornwort + a air stone

[aquariumlover10]

Ok so I just saw what looks like part of a molted shell of a ghost shrimp its the top part of a tail and there's no meat or anything but I saw it near where my cray was hiding do you think its just a cwincidet or the cray ate one?
I am leaving this ^ to show how stupid auto correct can be.

[aquariumlover10]

Ok I just saw that one of my shrimp has a saddle so tommorrow should I try to put her In with the other ones with eggs??????

[aquariumlover10]

Ok the one that had the eggs since Bought them the eggs hatched last night.:19:

[Slaphppy7]

Sounds good, congrats for the shrimplets

[aquariumlover10]

Ok thanks.

[KevinVA]

Congrats, bud! Looks like you're doing things very carefully. It's possible the crayfish ate that one shrimp, since they're at their weakest and most vulnerable when molting - they can't really escape. Or, it could just be a molt and that's that.

[aquariumlover10]

Ok thanks should I get another breeder box?

[KevinVA]

If you're only keeping shrimp & crayfish in the tank, I don't see why you'd need one at all. They do fine if left to their own devices. So no, I wouldn't recommend another breeding box.

[aquariumlover10]

If you look at my thread rcs for my tank? It will show mybequipment and stock.

[Slaphppy7]

Yeah, as long as you have plenty of hiding places, the shrimp and babies will be ok

[KevinVA]

If it's the same stocking as your profile, then you have a Betta, several mosquitofish, 2 otos, an upsidedown catfish, a zebra danio and a crayfish? Now you've added Ghost shrimp. Is that correct?

If so, your biggest concern should be the Betta and upside down catfish. The other fish will likely leave the shrimp alone. So, if you're looking to grow out your shrimp, then a breeder box is probably your best bet. The Betta, however, will be able to eat adult ghost shrimp, should he decide he wants a variety in live foods. Not sure how aggressive your catfish will be, though.

But yes, a well planted tank with plenty of hiding places will likely provide a safe enough environment for your shrimp.

[aquariumlover10]

Ok my betta is 3.5 years old and has had swim bladder disease, ick, and something that makes him look like he has wart thing which is back by the way and my cat hide under my filter output all day and comes out at night so I can't really tell what she does.

[Slaphppy7]

If you could get a pic of the "wart thing" someone here may be able to help you...I try to not let my cats around my tank, but it's hard sometimes

[KevinVA]

3.5yrs is pretty good. Mine passed away somewhat recently after about 2yrs. He had similar problems. This last battle with an illness got the better of him and I couldn't cure him of whatever it was. Bettas in a cup just can't be expected to live out a full and healthy life, unfortunately. ;/

[aquariumlover10]

I was talking about my catfish my dad is allergic to cats

[aquariumlover10]

Oh and the wart thing is what he had from my thread thing on betta fin or thing on fin.

[Slaphppy7]

I was talking about my catfish my dad is allergic to cats

LOL, whoops, i got confused for a minute

[aquariumlover10]

Haha its fine oh and should I get a 3 or 2 way breeder box?

[Slaphppy7]

I'd get whatever is cheaper, since it's just for shrimp

[KevinVA]

I don't think it matters. Go for the 3-way.

Edit: Yep, go for cheapest. It doesn't matter.

[aquariumlover10]

Ok or there's a net breeder but you can't see in it so I dont think I will get that.

[KevinVA]

Nah, get something you can see into. Makes for more fun.

[aquariumlover10]

Ok I think I will get a 2 way. Oh by the way the shrimplets are getting bigger already do you know how long the larval stage lasts?

[aquariumlover10]

Oh my god I just remebered something the female ghost shrimp molt then put off a hormone that atracts males and then she puts the eggs on her swimmerets, the females only have eggs after molting so the tail thing was a molted shell.

[aquariumlover10]

Ok so I just thought I would update the shrimplets are still alive so I gyess that meens that they are eating and the other pregnant females eggs are getting greener.

[Slaphppy7]

Sounds like you have a nice little shrimp factory up and running....good job!

[aquariumlover10]

Haha thanks, oh and I will probaly have a ton more because basicaly all of my shrimp are hiding in pairs and I think a couple molted

[Slaphppy7]

Pics would be great at this point....hint, hint

[aquariumlover10]

Ok ok I will beg my mom to let me try her camera

[Slaphppy7]

Ok ok I will beg my mom to let me try her camera

Yes, do that....tell her its for Science' sake.....

[aquariumlover10]

Ok she's on the phone and I may have to post them to my album.

[mommy1]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PlQRUDzXQLU/ShDOBAgqopI/AAAAAAAAAc0/ogAUlXhVZFI/s400/try_science_shirt_300.jpg

[KevinVA]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PlQRUDzXQLU/ShDOBAgqopI/AAAAAAAAAc0/ogAUlXhVZFI/s400/try_science_shirt_300.jpg

lol, this is what I was trying to find!

[mommy1]

You know what that means.

















































http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090819021011/clubpenguin/images/2/28/Chg.jpg

[KevinVA]

Stand back guys, she's a pro!

[Slaphppy7]

^^^ Once again....it's not even funny anymore, starting to get scary....

[KevinVA]

She has people. I'm certain of it. And with that, I'm going to lunch, but not before I watch your vid, Matt. ;P

[Slaphppy7]

She has people. I'm certain of it. And with that, I'm going to lunch, but not before I watch your vid, Matt. ;P

Yep, it is almost that time....hope you like it Kev, not very good quality, but you can see our little apisto in it

[aquariumlover10]

33696336973369833700sorry my moms camera died so I will post more pics and maybe a video when it charges

[aquariumlover10]

Ignore the last one on the other post the shrimp moved and the black thing is a flashlight oh and here's one more pic 33701

[Compass]

Good looking tank! Looks like you are on your way to be quite the accomplished shrimp wrangler.

[Slaphppy7]

Very nice tank, great job!

[aquariumlover10]

Thanks guess how I cut the terra cotta pots in half?

[Slaphppy7]

Oh, I just thought they were half buried....with a chainsaw?

[aquariumlover10]

Nope with a dremel and about 20 cutting wheels:)

[Compass]

I'm going to go with Slap on this one. Chainsaw!!!!

[Compass]

Nope with a dremel and about 20 cutting wheels:)

See, now if you had used a chainsaw you wouldn't have had to use 20 cutting wheels. Maybe 20 pots, but they're cheap and it would have been a heck of a lot more fun.

[Slaphppy7]

Nope with a dremel and about 20 cutting wheels:)

Wow, I bet that took a long time....I hope you wore eye protection

[aquariumlover10]

We'll I actally tryed using a seraded edge knife but it didn't work very well oh I did were eye protection and a ski mask and a jacket and nose plugs gosh it smells bad when you cut it

[aquariumlover10]

Oh does anyone know how to enter the TOTM comp?

[mommy1]

You can't enter that picture because it was posted on the forum, but if you take another one there will be a link to enter in the thread that Cliff will post tomorrow. Upload the picture to your computer and link it from there.

[Slaphppy7]

We'll I actally tryed using a seraded edge knife but it didn't work very well oh I did were eye protection and a ski mask and a jacket and nose plugs gosh it smells bad when you cut it

LOL....sounds like you were well protected, good to know...I need to get a nice ski mask

[aquariumlover10]

Haha is there a way to do that from a tablet?

[Slaphppy7]

Sorry, can't help you there...the only tablets I have are aspirin....

[aquariumlover10]

Haha ok it was just an idea I guess I will have to wait until I get a laptop when I get older.

[Slaphppy7]

I'm sure there's a way to do it, I just don't know how.

[aquariumlover10]

Ok I willwait and see if mommy1 knows.

[aquariumlover10]

Ok I just discovered that one of my shrimp has eggs in her ovaries it doesn't look like a saddle more of like she has eggs inside her where ansaddle would be, what should I do?!

[KevinVA]

Haha is there a way to do that from a tablet?

Do what with a tablet?

[aquariumlover10]

What mommy1 said do the link thing

[mommy1]

Do what with a tablet?Geez Kevin keep up with us, enter the photo competitions.:14: I've never had a tablet, only laptops and desktops but I can't believe it would be much different. Load the picture onto the tablet and use the link provided in the competition thread. I can do it from my phone, and if I can do it from my phone you should be able to do it from a tablet. If not you will need to pm Cliff and ask him.

[aquariumlover10]

Ok I just discovered another shrimp with a green saddle! Should I take them out and put them in a .5 gallon tank or leave them alone or what??????

[mommy1]

I would leave them alone.

[aquariumlover10]

Ok I have them in a litte tank with hornwort just so I could put them in the half gallon so I should put them in the tank and wait till the eggs are on there swimmeretts?

[aquariumlover10]

Ok I also just saw a small ghost shrimp in my tank has a saddle.

[KevinVA]

Geez Kevin keep up with us, enter the photo competitions.:14: I've never had a tablet, only laptops and desktops but I can't believe it would be much different. Load the picture onto the tablet and use the link provided in the competition thread. I can do it from my phone, and if I can do it from my phone you should be able to do it from a tablet. If not you will need to pm Cliff and ask him.

lol, soooo sorrry. ;P

You can pretty much do anything with a tablet that you can with a laptop. Storage just behaves differently. You'll be able to upload a pic with a tablet.

[aquariumlover10]

Ok but about the shrimp stuff in the last two post.

[KevinVA]

I'll tell you what... Ghost Shrimp do not have a problem with reproduction. I'm fairly certain they're one of the fastest reproducing shrimp in the history of shrimp.

The problem you're going to have is feeding the babies in their larval form. If your tank is mature and established, you might be able to sustain them with infusoria. Otherwise, you may have to feed them strained egg yolk or powdered fry food, etc.

There have been a lot of reportings of berried shrimp, but many unsuccessful breeders. If not eaten by fish, etc, the potential to starve to death is pretty high.

[aquariumlover10]

Ok I put them back in the tank but here's a photo of one of them when it was in the little tank 33703

[KevinVA]

Gee, you'd think it would be a lot easier to see transparent shrimp. :14:

[aquariumlover10]

More pics337053370633707 oh and guess what I found in the breeder box when I was taking pics? A dead mosquito not a mosquitofish a mosquito the biting ones

[aquariumlover10]

Gee, you'd think it would be a lot easier to see transparent shrimp. :14: haha yeah you would that was actually the 10th pic I took.

[aquariumlover10]

Oh yeah oh yeah I'm goin to the beach and I found my big cast net its six feet in diameter with 1 inch netting man I'm bringin a cooler this time.:18::19:thumbs2::jaws2:.why did I put jaws!?

[aquariumlover10]

Oh and I have a minnow trap that I am going to set up as a sw tank while were there.thumbs2::18:

[aquariumlover10]

And I have a diy crawfish trap thing I may take probaly not cause it isn't build for the ocean.

[aquariumlover10]

Ok so I just got back from the beach and this is what I caught 13 atlantic croakers, and 1 blue crab.it was high tide so most of the rocks and stuff were covered so all the hermits were under water but I did find some weird snail it burrows and it inlats with water and comes out of its shell?, and my sister caught around 25 atlantic croakers but in my defense I got all 13 in one throw and I only through the little cast net 1 time.

[Compass]

Looks like you had a very eventful and successful evening!

[aquariumlover10]

Yup do you know what that snail thing is that I described? Oh and I watched this show once it was in brazil and they said cone snails have a harpoon that can shoot in too you and kills emediatly from pain or with in a minute from the poison is that all cone snails or just the ones in brazil or something???

[Slaphppy7]

I've heard of the poison snails before, but not sure what kind of snail that you found is.

Here is some info on the cone snail: http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals/invertebrates/geographers-cone-snail/

[aquariumlover10]

Ok do you know if the ones in florida are poisonous?

[Slaphppy7]

I'm not sure, but Sandz lives there...maybe when he's on here later we will ask him

[mommy1]

You tell us. Here is your research material, read it and tell us if they are all poisonous or just the ones in Brazil.

http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals/invertebrates/geographers-cone-snail/ I think this is the same one Slap linked for you

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conus

http://www.aquariumofpacific.org/onlinelearningcenter/species/cone_snails_general_description

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v429/n6994/full/429798a.html

http://www.theconesnail.com/

http://www.zonatus.com/Killers%20cones.htm

Have fun

[aquariumlover10]

Ok I read all of them but the I had to google it one more time to find out and it said that it is very rare to find a live one in shallow water so that cleared things up I guess but anyway I just had to set up my half gallon tank and put the ghost that had eggs on her swimmerets in it with some plants because I was afraid she would eat the other babies so I will use the small tank for the preg ones and put babies in the breeder box.

[Slaphppy7]

Good plan.

[aquariumlover10]

Haha thanks should I start making some infusia???

[Slaphppy7]

Sure, can't hurt....how will you make it?

[aquariumlover10]

I was thinking about putting some tank water I little clear plastic conainer and dried dead grass and green grass in there and then put it in my little greenhouse, would this work how long till I can feed them to my tank??

[aquariumlover10]

Ok I just told my mom and got good news and bad news good news I can also use potato or lettuce bad I can't have it inside or in the greenhouse I will have.to put it on a outside windowsill will this be ok I have a problem with squirrels they keep coming in our backm yard and climb on the house by my window.

[KevinVA]

Why dried dead grass? Cut, live grass + an algae tab should do the trick. It'll probably take at least a week or so to grow.

That being said, if you have an established tank with live plants, you probably already have infusoria. I have grown fry without any kind of fry food. They've just eaten the infusoria within the tank. I still see my older fry (about 7+ months old now) picking on plants to eat whatever goodies they can find.

[KevinVA]

Ok I just told my mom and got good news and bad news good news I can also use potato or lettuce bad I can't have it inside or in the greenhouse I will have.to put it on a outside windowsill will this be ok I have a problem with squirrels they keep coming in our backm yard and climb on the house by my window.

You can put it out on the ground if you need to. You won't need a green house, just natural sunlight would be plenty.

[aquariumlover10]

Ok but I want some for the baby shrimp they cant move very well until like a week old so I want a back up plan, should I use grass, potatos, or lettuce or a mix of them or what?

[KevinVA]

Why not experiment with each? Plastic bottles are cheap. Put some potato in one, some lettuce in another and grass in the third.

Actually, I just read you shouldn't put it in direct sunlight. Apparently a greenhouse or direct sunlight will be too much light. On an indoor window sill would probably be the best. Or maybe in an area of the yard that doesn't get direct sunlight for the majority of the day, but isn't shaded.

[aquariumlover10]

Ok I may try them outside my window on the ground but does it need a lid? And I wanted to start a small green water culture how should I do this and I may be able to use some glass jars.

[KevinVA]

Steps to succeeding w/ insufuria cultures:

1. Get a clear bottle/jar (plastic or glass w/ as big an opening as you can get for maximum oxygen exchange)
2. Fill it with tank water (works better then dechlorinated tap water)
3. Add a leaf of lettuce (or other material that will decay in the water to start a bacteria culture - insufuria eats bacteria)
4. Cover with fish net material or muslin cloth (optional)
5. Place bottle/jar in a well-lit area, but not in direct sunlight
6. The water will get cloudy (due to the bacterial bloom). Once it clears or turns pinkish, you will have a well-fed culture of insufuria
7. Use a syringe or turkey baster to remove some of the liquid toward the top of the bottle/jar and add a couple of drops to your tank (not the whole thing)

Steps to succeeding with green water cultures:
1. Get a clear bottle/jar (plastic or glass w/ as big an opening as you can get for maximum oxygen exchange)
2. Fill it with tank water
3. Place bottle/jar in a well-lit area (can be direct sunlight)

OR

1. Get a clear bottle w/ a cover
2. Pick some fresh plant leaves
3. Blend the leaves for about 1min with dechlorinated tap or tank water
4. Strain and pour the blend into the bottle and reapply the cover (no leaves)
5. Place capped bottle w/ blend in a well-lit area for 24hrs for a phytoplankton bloom
6. Get another clear bottle/jar (bigger than the one you have - maybe a clear bucket)
7. Fill the new container with dechlorinated tap water or tank water
8. Pour your blend into the new container and let it sit under a well-lit area (direct sunlight preferred)
9. In a few days your culture (the phytoplankton) will grow

Ta-da!!!

[aquariumlover10]

Ok thanks I will start them in a minute. :)

[KevinVA]

I like this kid. He's a doer!

[steeler58]

I like this kid. He's a doer!

I agree, I always enjoy coming here and reading "what he's doing now", I bet there's not to many video games in his house.

[KevinVA]

I agree, I always enjoy coming here and reading "what he's doing now", I bet there's not to many video games in his house.

I wouldn't doubt it.

[aquariumlover10]

Haha nope but now and then I do go to my friends house to play minecraft. Oh and I haven't started the cultures yet because my mom finally let me play outside with my friends so I will start them after I eat dinner.

[aquariumlover10]

Ok I started my infusoria culture with tank water a small lettuce leaf and a little bit of an algae wafer.

[aquariumlover10]

Should I put some hornwort in the jar to jump start the infusoria

[KevinVA]

Not necessary. You can if you want.

[aquariumlover10]

Ok I may put some in tomorrow, ok my friend that lives next down is almost 8 and he use to have a betta but it died and his pasrents say he's to young to have fish and not responsible enough but he keeps a frog in captivity that we found outside for more than 2 weeks and he had to let it go because every one was staying inside while they were sick so we couldn't feed it or put water in its tank but we found the same frog again today so he's going to keep it but he's afraid he'll get in trouble for asking if he can keep fish again but the reason his bettas always died is because he didn't know he needed declorinator drops so what should I do.