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jackson-.-
11-03-2007, 12:54 AM
First, would it be possible to put a needlenose gar and puffers(like dwarf or green spotted) together?

Second, I've been thinking of getting a tank about 25 gal. At the local pet store I spotted a little 2-3" needlenose. So would the needlenose and maybe a couple puffers work in a 25 gal.?

Kaga's Kritters
11-03-2007, 12:57 AM
the needlenose will outgrow the tank. the puffers will probably kill the needlenose. puffers really do best in species tanks. heck the dwarf puffers may get eaten by the needlenose once he gets big enough.

gm72
11-03-2007, 01:26 AM
The gar is FAR too large for a tank that size. It would never work. We are here talking about a fish that can reach well over 2 feet in length. You'd need a tank at least 180 gallons but preferably larger.

Dwarf Puffers, as already stated, do best in a species-specific tank also.

Demjor19
11-03-2007, 01:57 AM
if by needlenose you mean (Xenentodon cancila) then it would not outgrow a 25 for quite some time depending on size when you get it. they are not a "true gar" species and do not get nearly as large...if i remember correctly they max out around 12-16 inches in captivity, however it takes them a long time to reach this size. i have never seen one over 6-8 inches. ultimately you would need a larger tank though...so if you cant provide this then it isnt a good idea to purchase this fish. as for it going in w/ small puffers...not such a good idea. i am fairly confident that it would try eating them sooner or later. check out the link i posted below. it provides some fairly accurate info and may help id the fish in question.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenentodon_cancila

gm72
11-03-2007, 02:15 AM
Yes, there are some fish that are referred to as a needlenose that may not actually be as such. Here is some info on a true needlenose gar.

http://www.aqualandpetsplus.com/Oddball,%20Gar.htm

Demjor19
11-03-2007, 03:15 AM
"needlenose gar" is a very generic name given to any fish that resembles a gar. the only "true gar" that even somewhat resembles the "needlenose gar" is the longnose gar (Lepisosteus Osseus).

gm72
11-03-2007, 03:24 AM
Very true, and excellent information. Thank you for the clarification and elaboration!

Demjor19
11-03-2007, 03:50 AM
your welcome. i'm a bit obsessed over gar, so i try my best to keep facts straight and help inform people.

gm72
11-03-2007, 04:05 AM
...and it is greatly appreciated. We need people like you here to help us learn more about the fish we keep. Thanks again!

Demjor19
11-03-2007, 04:28 AM
it's my pleasure! :c3:

jackson-.-
11-03-2007, 04:44 AM
Thanks for all the info...
Now that a see all the info and pics, I'm pretty sure that it is the Xenentodon cancila

Demjor19
11-03-2007, 05:18 AM
Thanks for all the info...
Now that a see all the info and pics, I'm pretty sure that it is the Xenentodon cancila

youre very welcome!