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Samhain
05-03-2013, 08:00 PM
Hello everyone.

I am pretty new to aquariums. My Dad had them when I was a kid, but I was pretty little so I don't remember much. My boyfriend and I saw a second-hand aquarium for cheap, so we decided to try it out. It's our first tank.

We have a 20g, planted tank with 4 koi angelfish, seven black-phantom tetras, five corydoras and one small pleco of some kind that won't grow very big. What do you think of the community we've set up? Is our tank too full? Good? My boyfriend kinda wants to get some fishes that dwell at the top of our tank, but I think it'd be too much. We were also given a 50g tank but we haven't set it up yet because one of the glass panes needs to be replaced first.

I just stumbled upon this forum and I'm looking forward to doing lots of reading and learning :)

Thanks.

Triton
05-03-2013, 08:07 PM
Welcome to the forum, be prepared to put those angels in the 50g once you get it up and cycled. If you aren't positive what the nitrogen cycle is read up on it.

Make sure you know what type of pleco it is, most (if not all will outgrow a 20g) and they poop a lot.

I think the tetras and cories are fine, probably could add 1-2 more cories, but I would think the pleco and angels should go in the 50g depending on its dimensions

talldutchie
05-03-2013, 08:18 PM
. What do you think of the community we've set up? Is our tank too full? Good? .

You've set yourself up for bloody murder in the next few months. Angelfish grow, start to pair up and then to beat up everyone else. The black phantoms aren't pushovers either.

"a small pleco of some kind that won't grow very big". I've heard that before, quite often about the ones that grow out to be 12 inches or more.

On the plus side... 4 angles in a 50 gallon with decor set to break up sightlines could work and would be a nice tank. You could bring up the tetras to an even dozen, get 3 more cories and have a stable community with getting rid of excess angel fry as your only worry.

Cyberra
05-03-2013, 08:34 PM
Welcome to the community

steeler58
05-03-2013, 08:46 PM
Welcome to the forum.

gronlaura
05-03-2013, 09:56 PM
:welcomewave: Welcome to the AC!

Indian Woods Angels
05-04-2013, 12:22 AM
Welcome to the wonderful world of fishes.

JudiJetson
05-04-2013, 01:09 AM
Greetings Samhain :wavingyellow:

Greentoads41
05-04-2013, 02:30 AM
Welcome! and hello

gadget228
05-04-2013, 08:50 AM
Welcome to the AC... :22:

Samhain
05-07-2013, 09:39 PM
Thanks everyone! I really appreciate the tips!

It's funny that you mention the angels pairing up - that is exactly what has happened in the past few days. One of our angels actually died :( He started floating upside down and swimming sideways, then eventually just sat between a rock and the glass, so my boyfriend euthanized him :( It was awful, and I feel terrible. I can only imagine three things that could have happened: one) I injured him when I dropped a rock while rearranging the plants a bit. An angel "bit" my arm and it startled me and I dropped the rock (it actually hurt!) :/ I didn't see what happened, I just remember a fish freaking out when I dropped it; two) another angel, one of the pairing up ones, injured his swimming bladder (is this possible?); or three) he got sick somehow, but he really didn't look sick on the surface.

But anyway, yeah, the two pairing angels have started charging the other fish and are keeping them out of a little corner of the tank where they have started cleaning some anubius leaves. The third angel has been ostracized and is keeping away from the other two. We have a very small apartment but we could swap the 50g with the 20g once we get the glass replaced - do I understand correctly that that is what you've recommended, talldutchie? We are planning to move soonish, so then we could feasibly have both of them, but not right now. I really like seeing them preparing the leaves, but they're bullies and are really charging the other fish! The 50g tank has the same lid size so we can do it - can any of you please share some tips on swapping them?

Thanks for your patience and input, everyone. I am new to this, as I said, but I am already really enjoying it (except the fish dying part :( ). When we build the big aquarium, I want to get a nice piece of wood for it :)

Thanks again!
~S