Betta with glass eye?

[slinky]

I am not sure whether when I got my betta his eyes were different. The right eye is black and dark but the left eye looks like glass, lighter, sort of transparentish. I was wondering whether this might be "cloudy eye" or some sort of pop-eye so I have treated him with Maracyn for 2 days an no change. He's had this for at least the past 10 days in a very clean tank and perhaps I just didn't notice he was this way when I bought him. One of my gold mollies has a black and one white eye and that is just the way he was made so I'm wondering, could this be normal? He seems to be his happy self except now being in a smaller hospital tank.

[blu]

is the one actually black? From the front of the fish the top layer of the eye should look clear. It could be cloud eye if the other eye looks kindof clouded on the surface. Ive had good luck treating it with mel/pimafix. Although once in a while some of my bettas eyes will cloud and then it goes away on its own.
Pic would help if you could get one.

[slinky]

is the one actually black? From the front of the fish the top layer of the eye should look clear. It could be cloud eye if the other eye looks kindof clouded on the surface. Ive had good luck treating it with mel/pimafix. Although once in a while some of my bettas eyes will cloud and then it goes away on its own.
Pic would help if you could get one.

Getting a good picture is incredibly difficult given the glass and the water. :) The dark eye is very dark. Looks fine and you can't really see "through" it. The glass eye you can clearly see the round exterior and a small black dot like an iris in the middle. Like a large clear circle and a small black circle in the center, just like a human eye in a way. The problem is that it's glassy, not cloudy and if his eyes are black I'm wondering why this is "clearer" than tha dark black you can't see through. Here's a try although you can see more of the "Glass" right eye than the regular left eye.

Glass eye - looks like a transparent orb with a little black dot in the middle
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Regular eye - from another fish, looks similar, very dark and you just see a round black orb.
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The way he looks (pissed at me that it doesn't do him justice)
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[slinky]

But it's not pop-eye. I looked at both eyes and the glass eye doesn't really protrude much, if at all, when you look at him from the top down and checking out both eyes.

[blu]

from the pic it looks like a cloudy eye but you say its not cloudy so Im not sure what to tell you. Try googling his symptoms and see if that comes up with anything. One other thing though does he have tailrot?..his tail looks awefully ragged is it dark or red around the edges?

[tropfish]

I'm not sure aobut the eye, one of my bettas had a cloudyish eye when bought it kind of like urs and it went away within a week of getting him.

Also did you just get him and his tail came like that, or it it rot, or is he a tailbiter?

[slinky]

It's a bad picture of his tail and it has always been somewhat brushy. Parts of his tail are dark red on the edges but it matches the red color that he has throughout the lower portion of his body, including the fins by his gills. I'll post two more pictures and you'll see his fins really aren't that bad and I don't think it's tail rot. The area looks much too clean. I did notice that when I got him he had trouble swimming completely straight upwards and he was always tilted to the left and it never went away. It's possible he had some abuse prior to being in my care but he was by far the most beautiful betta they had there and is actually the friendliest betta I've ever seen.

Regarding the Google, yes, I looked all over for this symptom and only see "cloudy eye" but am not sure what that is on a betta. No real pictures and none say it's glassy or transparent like these. Thanks so much for the suggestions.

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[spudbuds]

I'm can't help with your question, but I did want to say that is one beautiful betta!

[cocoa_pleco]

its hazy eye, a sign of poor water conditions. there are meds for it

[tropfish]

oh ok, i was jsut wondering, but the ifns still sohuldn't look like that. how big is his tank, and what's you waterchange schedule? filter? heater?

[slinky]

He shares a 10 gallon tank that has ammonia at 0 or no higher than .25 at any time. It might be .5 on a rare occasion which is dealt with immediately. pH is between 6.8 and 7.2. Heat is a little high at 80-82F but he seems to be just fine. Can't control it as the apartment is that high but I'm guessing the thermometer in the water might be a few degrees high considering the room temperature is several degrees cooler. Water change is at least 25% every 4 days. Filter is a Penguin 100 Bio Wheel. I've separated him and put him into his own 1G tank and now in the Quart sized Betta bowl which I use as a hospital tank but I don't see signs of this changing. I've used Betta Water Conditioner and Betta Fix in there just to see if it made any difference.

He shares his tank with 3 False Julii Cories, 1 red platy and 1 24K Gold molly. They all seem very happy as tankmates and get along quite well. There is a special enclosure at the top of the tank where the betta likes to hang out as it provides completely still water (hole in the bottom for him to enter) but he also enjoys roaming around the tank and playing with the other fish and jumping into the air bubble stream from the Air pump.

His fins don't look ragged at all and perhaps that first picture wasn't as good a one given the bowl is tough to shoot through.

[slinky]

Just did a water check. As usual, ammonia at zero, nitrite at zero, pH at 6.8.

[kid_fishboy13]

can he see out of it? my uncle had a gold gourami and its eye looked just like that. thing is, it was blind out of that eye

[slinky]

can he see out of it? my uncle had a gold gourami and its eye looked just like that. thing is, it was blind out of that eye
I'm not sure how to tell. How did you guys determine it? Shine a light at each eye?

It could be that he has a bad eye and I just didn't notice it. He was one of the last bettas in the store and was beautiful. It was just clear that in keeping many of them in these awful tiny "betta bowls" they were not happy and were being damaged. This guy was leaning a bit on his side and hasn't been able to fully overcome it but his fins have become even more beautiful.

[tropfish]

Ok well ti looks like your taking good care of the betta! Jusytm ake sure that the mollies don't stress him out, because they soemtimes make the betta think theres another betta in the tank. (colorful with longer ifns)

[slinky]

Not sure if he is blind as I tried to shine some lights and see if he followed. He did when it was to the dark eye but not to the glass one. It's possible he's blind. Third day separated and his eye is still the same. Water is clean. I'm guessing this just might be the way he is and was. Still is a beautiful fish and seems happy. He'll be happier once he's with the other fish. For some reason he loves the other guys in the tank and chased away some vindictive female bettas when they were in there long ago. Looks like you have quite a few bettas of your own!

[tropfish]

haha yup 5 and counting! glad it wasnt something serious! special needs bettas really need good homes, and there often overlooked in petshops.