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Tyler Scholz
11-20-2012, 04:23 PM
I am getting a new tank soon well actualy first tank and it will be 365.63 Liters (I think that is 80 US Gallons).I will already be getting 6 anglefish. I am pretty sure that there will be enough free space for them. And wanted to also get some Plecos either 2 (I want 4 but I am not to sure if there will be enough space for that). So I do not know what specias to get since I know some can grow 80cm big. I was considering these pleco so far.
) Clown Pleco \ I know they small but I think a little to small for my liking.
) Candy Striped Pleco \ Not to sure since they do not eat much algae.
) Bristelnose Pleco \ Most fond of this one. Nice size and enjoys algae.
) Leopard Pleco \ Do not know much besides my friend has got one and his tank is only half mine (Yes i did asck him about it and he said that it looked cool so he bought it and if it grows to big he will just give it back)

So yea thats it what would be the best Pleco for me to get is there perhaps another one that I did not mention and i will really like.

Goes to 11!
11-20-2012, 04:38 PM
365L= 95USG

IMO Bristlenosed plecs are a fine addition [I have L144s:1luvu: ] although you should be aware that they are not going to be doing much glass cleaning [IME] and they do need to be fed.

Find out all you ever wanted to know about plecos/catfish by clicking here. (http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/numbers.php?mode=l&thumbs=16)

I hate to tell you this but 6 angels is too many for your tank when mature, I had two mated pairs in my moderately planted 90g for years but adding another one resulted in its death. They are simply too territorial to coexist in groups of that size in [relatively] confined spaces.

Personally I would wait for them to pair up, Pick the pair you want and rehome the rest. Four is possible [2 mated pairs] for you if there is LOTS of cover to keep them out of each others sight lines. 6 angels to maturity is out of the question IMO.

Are you familiar with cycling a tank?
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Tyler Scholz
11-20-2012, 05:07 PM
Arr only 4 :scry: . I checked out that site so i will needa give them some wood to chew on and feed them veggies does not seem difficult. And for cycling all i know is that if you leave your tank for a month and it should cycle by itself i heard I can use some blends to speed up the process so that would not be to much of a problem for me. So 4 anglefish and 2 pleco would that be the max fish I could keep in the tank. I wouldnt mind adding a goldfish if i could now Or one other fish if I can.

Stlouisfish
11-20-2012, 05:15 PM
Arr only 4 :scry: . I checked out that site so i will needa give them some wood to chew on and feed them veggies does not seem difficult. And for cycling all i know is that if you leave your tank for a month and it should cycle by itself i heard I can use some blends to speed up the process so that would not be to much of a problem for me. So 4 anglefish and 2 pleco would that be the max fish I could keep in the tank. I wouldnt mind adding a goldfish if i could now Or one other fish if I can.
No it won't LOL

You need to add pure ammonia to get the cycle started - personally, I wouldn't recommend cycling with fish in the tank. YOu can also put used media from an established tank into your filter(s) to speed up the process but it won't happen by itself.

You should read about fishless cycling and do that before putting fish in the tank.

Goes to 11!
11-20-2012, 05:15 PM
No GF - They are cold water poop machines, Your stock so far is tropical.

You have plenty of options for additional fish, What do you like?

RE Cycling: No, That is simply an ineffective waste of power and time. Please read this: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aquariumforum/showthread.php?t=5640

The red stickys here will be very helpful to read as well: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aquariumforum/forumdisplay.php?f=66
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sheamurai
11-20-2012, 05:16 PM
I'm afraid your information on cycling is incomplete. A tank with nothing in it - or even additives does not cycle by itself.
You might want to read the red stickies of the forums as stated above.

If you try to stock all your fish at once in an uncycled tank, you are just about guaranteed to lose most of them.

Tyler Scholz
11-20-2012, 05:26 PM
Oh seems like such a mission though. I know I have well water well a little of it and does anyone know about Microdabe special blend(Name might be a little incorrect) I know a guy that uses it in his tank and has not had to many casuelties and he reccomended it to me. Is there any 'easy' way to get past cycling or another solotuion.

Goes to 11!
11-20-2012, 05:28 PM
Never heard of that product, Have a link?

Is there any 'easy' way to get past cycling or another solotuion.
This IS the easy way. Please read the links provided. :11:
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Tyler Scholz
11-20-2012, 05:39 PM
Well i checked out some older emails and found the real name it is called Microbe-Lift Special blend. Will try to post a link later.
And about the fish again how many plecos could I keep with 4 anglefish and still have space for 1 goldfish as i really love goldfish.

Goes to 11!
11-20-2012, 05:45 PM
That is a link to an entire store. Not a product. Please go up and edit your link to the actual product you refer to.

I have never used bacteria in a bottle but any kind of product of this type will have its fans and others will call it ineffective snake oil and and a waste of money.

Either way . . You can grow what's required in your filter without it.


And about the fish again how many plecos could I keep with 4 anglefish and still have space for 1 goldfish as i really love goldfish.None, See here. (http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aquariumforum/showpost.php?p=1101350&postcount=5) As already stated, If you want this to be a GF tank you can't keep the angels in it. If you want angles.. No GF.

Tyler Scholz
11-20-2012, 05:52 PM
Sorry but you keep on mentioning GF tank. What is a GF tank does that stand for Community tank?
Is this better http://www.microbelift.com/products/home-aquarium/bacterial-products/special-blend/

Goes to 11!
11-20-2012, 05:56 PM
I mentioned it in reply to your comments about gold fish.. GF = Gold Fish. Didn't mean to confuse.

Lady Hobbs
11-20-2012, 05:57 PM
Gold fish.

It will be a miracle to even keep 4 angels in the tank. Pleco's "require" wood in their diet, do not belong in a tank until the tank is mature and cycling threads below in my links. Good luck.

Tyler Scholz
11-20-2012, 05:59 PM
Oh goldfish thought was something real obviouse. Well inthat case forget i mentioned it then and is that new link any good.

mommy1
11-20-2012, 06:03 PM
Sorry but you keep on mentioning GF tank. What is a GF tank does that stand for Community tank?


http://becauseican.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/funny-dog-pictures-laughing-at-little-girl.jpg

Goes to 11!
11-20-2012, 06:24 PM
Much better link yes TY :22:

I have never understood how this bacteria in a bottle has a two year shelf life when the bacteria has to eat something to survive..

The info seems a bit shifty to me and I am dubious of [as stated] things such as this:
'Lowers ammonia levels and biologically reduces nitrates' I could see that happening for SW but not FW,

My previous post still applies.
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Tyler Scholz
11-20-2012, 06:30 PM
Oh well I think that I will make another thread in cycling about this and see what that turns up since this has shifted quite abit away from choosing some plecos and space for anglefish. So thats about it thanx a bunch ai thumbs2:

Goes to 11!
11-20-2012, 06:37 PM
Lol - Yeah threads get pulled every direction at times around here. As long as the whole thing doesn't unravel it's all good. :ssmile:

You can continue it here if you want It's your thread dude.
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fishfreak123
11-25-2012, 02:14 PM
i have a clown pleco and in one night he cleaned the top of my rosk:ssuprised: and he cleans on my glass he is very effective but you have to get malaysian driftwood for him to make him happier

Transito Ramirez
11-25-2012, 09:30 PM
Hello everyone I want to know where to buy a flash or emperor pleco